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frapi07
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Langhans wrote on 10.01.2024 at 10:36 am:
Very briefly to classify the figures and there is a result that differs significantly from "almost balanced". I don't mean that 62% is not exactly "a little more than half", but rather two thirds But the weighting of the share of the population is completely omitted in this "total calculation" (net figures). If ¼ of the population, at 62%, accounts for an even larger proportion of unemployed people, this roughly results in a factor of 6, which means that "foreigners" are six times as likely to be unemployed as Germans. This could also be applied equally to the crime statistics.


A matter of opinion. From 50 to 62 there is a difference of 12, from 62 to 75 there is a difference of 13. The 62 is closer to the 50 than the 62 is to the 75, so I would say that 62% is rather more than half and not three quarters.

To your calculation. This is correct, but unemployed does not automatically mean criminal. So you can't use this calculation for crime.

However, it is not alarming that "foreigners" have a significantly higher chance of being unemployed than "non-foreigners". If you look at the people who leave school with either a very poor certificate or no certificate at all, then this figure should not surprise you. And yes, the higher the qualification, the lower the probability of being unemployed.

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Langhans
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frapi07 wrote on 10.01.2024 at 11:14 am:
Matter of opinion. from 50 to 62 there is 12 difference, from 62 to 75 there is 13 difference. The 62 is closer to the 50 than the 62 is to the 75, so I'd say 62% is a bit more than half rather than three quarters.

To your calculation. This is correct, but unemployed does not automatically mean criminal. So you can't use this calculation for crime.

However, it is not alarming that "foreigners" have a significantly higher chance of being unemployed than "non-foreigners". If you look at the people who leave school with either a very poor certificate or no certificate at all, then this figure should not surprise you. And yes, the higher the qualification, the lower the probability of being unemployed.

I'm just a number cruncher here and don't really want to take part in the discussion because everything has already been said on the subject here, now, earlier and everywhere. By the way, 2/3 is 66% and not 75% - I think you just made a mistake in the heat of the moment It is of course true that unemployed does not automatically mean criminal and I didn't say that either. Nevertheless, the parameter "proportion of the population" should also be used there, otherwise this statistic is also only based on absolute figures and is of little value

Example of binge drinking: 4 Russians manage 100 beers before they are under the table. 10 Germans also manage 100 beers before they are under the table. That's why Russians and Germans are not equally hard-drinking

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Donnie
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All the statistics are nonsense anyway, many crimes are not even reported and not everyone goes to the police straight away. Besides, there are crimes where it's pointless to investigate, pointless to go to the police. I don't know exactly how they managed it, but a woman in the neighborhood once had a debit card and PIN stolen. I reported it to the police and they checked the ATM cameras where a masked woman withdrew €2000. It was simply impossible to identify and therefore pointless to file a complaint if you want to identify the perpetrators. I know of at least 20 crimes that happened to people that were never reported. From robbery to theft to being hit by a car. There was once a driveway where someone came out at 50 km/h and almost ran me over, it was a real cheek. I went after him because there was a traffic light nearby and hit his car, tried to get him out of the car, but he quickly fled. He was a foreigner with a Mercedes, I never reported him to the police

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frapi07
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Langhans wrote on 10.01.2024 at 11:32 am:
I'm just a numbers guy here and don't really want to take part in the discussion, because everything has already been said on the subject here, now, earlier and everywhere anyway. By the way, 2/3 is 66% and not 75% - I think you just made a mistake in the heat of the moment It is of course true that unemployed does not automatically mean criminal and I didn't say that either. Nevertheless, the parameter "proportion of the population" should also be used there, otherwise this statistic is also only based on absolute figures and is of little value

Example of binge drinking: 4 Russians manage 100 beers before they are under the table. 10 Germans also manage 100 beers before they are under the table. That's why Russians and Germans are not equally hard-drinking

I misread that. I had read 3/4, but you meant 2/3^^ Happens to everyone Sorry! But yes, of course you're right. 62% is more like 2/3 than 1/2-

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Langhans
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frapi07 wrote on January 10th, 2024 at 9:10 pm:

I made a mistake. Had read 3/4, but you correctly meant 2/3^^ Happens to everyone Sorry! But yes, of course you're right. 62% is more like 2/3 than 1/2-

No problem at all...We can talk about anything here...

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