Sindragosa wrote on 09/28/2020 at 8:58 pm
Thank you Chrizzi.
I also find it very interesting what others have experienced and I am a night person anyway .
I wrote to Alex privately and gave him advice, what he makes of it I do not know because he hardly gives feedback. But I want to help him as much as I can
Sorry I correct: not Alex but Andy!
Excuse me too Got you on the wrong track with Alex. I also meant Andy.
One has quickly noticed how much you were looking for solutions to box you and your mother out of it. Even if you wouldn't do it to her. Tell her to stop by here
Then she may lose the desire to play.
Chrizzi wrote on 28.09.2020 at 22:09
Apologize as well Got you on the wrong track with Alex after all. Also meant Andy.
One has quickly noticed how much you were behind it to look for solutions to box you and your mother out of it. Even if you wouldn't do it to her. Tell her to stop by here
Then she may lose the desire to play.
All the best
Haha all good.
I wouldn't know now that she feels like playing
She described it rather as unbearable and very nerve-racking...
She never gambled for money because she was always fine otherwise
And she knows that I hate gambling in general
Alone already from the Bekanntekries when I see what it can cause.
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Me once my bank after just 8000 euros win times asked in passing (so not extra called or so I was at the bank had to hand in my documents because of the R + V Insurance there is my adviser on me in a short small talk he asked) where the money would come from I then said sports betting. He then congratulated me.
However, fortunately, this came from Tipico (cash with casino area made ).
How it would look at ner 20 k win the I know ned.
But honestly worst case terminate me the bums money may not collect, sooner or later I get it to me so or so.
As the old good Gollum once said it's mine mine!!!!
Lafamilia89 wrote on 09/18/2020 at 05:23: meal together....
The whole thing is scaring me a bit right now. 6-7 weeks ago I also had an incoming payment of just under 1/4 million🙏🙏🙏 my account was frozen shortly after that too...
Seizure public prosecutor's office Essen
Was at the beginning of the week at the lawyer because despite daily phone calls with which nothing came to rum...
Among other things, it says something like this (in the conclusion at the bottom).
It should only serve as info, who has time and desire can look at that times.
For the justification of the national gambling monopoly the consumer protection, the fraud prevention, the avoidance of incentives for the citizens to excessive expenditures for the play and the prevention of disturbances of the social order in general are called. [sup] 49 [/sup] However, for the above-mentioned reasons, this is not factually in the foreground, but rather the protection of the wins of the state lotteries, which is why Sections 284 et seq. of the StGB are also illegitimate for this reason. The state gambling monopoly therefore proves to be hypocritical, as it seems to be guided by fiscal interests, but pretends to uphold §§ 284 ff. StGB only for the benefit of the population. The per se ban on Internet casinos imposed by Section 4 (4) GlüStV is based on the fact that the Internet is said to offer anonymity, a lack of social control and the constant availability of gambling services, and that Internet gambling is described as particularly dangerous
It must also be remembered that all the dangers of the Internet mentioned above also exist in the financial sector. There, too, citizens can bet anonymously and around the clock on rising or falling prices on Internet stock exchanges and gamble away their assets down to the last euro. Considering that the Internet offers absolute traceability of money flows, while in local betting shops and casinos money from illegal activities can be laundered without any problems, there is even more to be said for Internet gambling being preferable to terrestrial gambling. All of this reveals that the total ban on Internet gambling is also on shaky ground and, on closer examination, cannot be upheld as it stands. All in all, the conduct prohibited by §§ 284-287 StGB cannot be described as worthy of punishment. These criminal laws are to be decriminalized consequently for the reasons mentioned. The legislature is urged to fulfill this duty and to make improvements wherever unnecessary criminal laws and restrictions on freedom exist.
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Sindragosa wrote on 30.09.2020 at 20:33: If you have time you can read through this, but it is really a lot.
Among other things, it says something like this (in the conclusion at the bottom).
It should only serve as info, who has time and desire can look at that times.
For the justification of the national gambling monopoly the consumer protection, the fraud prevention, the avoidance of incentives for the citizens to excessive expenditures for the play and the prevention of disturbances of the social order in general are called. [sup] 49 [/sup] However, for the above-mentioned reasons, this is not factually in the foreground, but rather the protection of the wins of the state lotteries, which is why Sections 284 et seq. of the StGB are also illegitimate for this reason. The state gambling monopoly therefore proves to be hypocritical, as it seems to be guided by fiscal interests, but pretends to uphold §§ 284 ff. StGB only for the benefit of the population. The per se ban on Internet casinos imposed by Section 4 (4) GlüStV is based on the fact that the Internet is said to offer anonymity, a lack of social control and the constant availability of gambling services, and that Internet gambling is described as particularly dangerous
It must also be remembered that all the dangers of the Internet mentioned above also exist in the financial sector. There, too, citizens can bet anonymously and around the clock on rising or falling prices on Internet stock exchanges and gamble away their assets down to the last euro. If one considers that the Internet offers absolute traceability of money flows, while in local betting shops and casinos money from illegal activities can be laundered without any problems, there is even more to be said for gambling on the Internet being preferable to terrestrial gambling. All of this reveals that the total ban on Internet gambling is also on shaky ground and, on closer examination, cannot be upheld as it stands. All in all, the conduct prohibited by §§ 284-287 StGB cannot be described as worthy of punishment. These criminal laws are to be decriminalized consequently for the reasons mentioned. The legislature is urged to fulfill this duty and to make improvements wherever unnecessary criminal laws and restrictions on freedom exist.
On the home page of ISA-Guide is advertising from Löwenplay, Novomatic and gaming fairs in Malta,
as well as the amount of various jackpots.
Do you really think this is an independent site that properly illuminates the legal side?
side of things?
The specialist lawyers have actually advised you to the contrary, haven't they?
unicorn wrote on 30.09.2020 at 23:08
I guess he means the probability of the win being collected is 80%. So the hope that he will still get the win is rather low
The lawyer says 50/50 chance.
From what I have heard and knowing how the state power is on it I think 80/20.
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Excuse me too Got you on the wrong track with Alex. I also meant Andy.
One has quickly noticed how much you were looking for solutions to box you and your mother out of it. Even if you wouldn't do it to her. Tell her to stop by here
Then she may lose the desire to play.
All the best
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Haha all good.
I wouldn't know now that she feels like playing
She described it rather as unbearable and very nerve-racking...
She never gambled for money because she was always fine otherwise
And she knows that I hate gambling in general
Alone already from the Bekanntekries when I see what it can cause.
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However, fortunately, this came from Tipico (cash with casino area made ).
How it would look at ner 20 k win the I know ned.
But honestly worst case terminate me the bums money may not collect, sooner or later I get it to me so or so.
As the old good Gollum once said it's mine mine!!!!
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Is there already something new with you?
Would be great if you could make an update.
Love greetings
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The lawyer has talked to the prosecutor.
There will most likely be a court hearing and the win will be 80% forfeited.
The mistake is that we both testified to the police
The thing with the painter master at that time has only gone well because he has made no statement or no information.
Thus the StA could not prove where he was when he played
THAT is why the German criminal law does not intervene
A Tip for all if you make a big win
Do not give any information to the bank and the police and call in a specialist lawyer
Then the win is 90% yours
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https://www.isa-guide.de/isa-law/articles/204401.html#:~:text=4%20StGB%20macht%20sich%20strafbar,Gl%C3%BCcksspiel%20nach%20%C2%A7%20284%20Abs.&text=4%20Gl%C3%BCStV%20folgt%2C%20dass%20das,weiterhin%20unter%20einem%20Totalverbot%20stehen.
There I believe most "from the soul" is spoken.
Among other things, it says something like this (in the conclusion at the bottom).
It should only serve as info, who has time and desire can look at that times.
For the justification of the national gambling monopoly the consumer protection, the fraud prevention, the avoidance of incentives for the citizens to excessive expenditures for the play and the prevention of disturbances of the social order in general are called. [sup] 49 [/sup] However, for the above-mentioned reasons, this is not factually in the foreground, but rather the protection of the wins of the state lotteries, which is why Sections 284 et seq. of the StGB are also illegitimate for this reason. The state gambling monopoly therefore proves to be hypocritical, as it seems to be guided by fiscal interests, but pretends to uphold §§ 284 ff. StGB only for the benefit of the population. The per se ban on Internet casinos imposed by Section 4 (4) GlüStV is based on the fact that the Internet is said to offer anonymity, a lack of social control and the constant availability of gambling services, and that Internet gambling is described as particularly dangerous
It must also be remembered that all the dangers of the Internet mentioned above also exist in the financial sector. There, too, citizens can bet anonymously and around the clock on rising or falling prices on Internet stock exchanges and gamble away their assets down to the last euro. Considering that the Internet offers absolute traceability of money flows, while in local betting shops and casinos money from illegal activities can be laundered without any problems, there is even more to be said for Internet gambling being preferable to terrestrial gambling. All of this reveals that the total ban on Internet gambling is also on shaky ground and, on closer examination, cannot be upheld as it stands. All in all, the conduct prohibited by §§ 284-287 StGB cannot be described as worthy of punishment. These criminal laws are to be decriminalized consequently for the reasons mentioned. The legislature is urged to fulfill this duty and to make improvements wherever unnecessary criminal laws and restrictions on freedom exist.
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On the home page of ISA-Guide is advertising from Löwenplay, Novomatic and gaming fairs in Malta,
as well as the amount of various jackpots.
Do you really think this is an independent site that properly illuminates the legal side?
side of things?
The specialist lawyers have actually advised you to the contrary, haven't they?
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Why is the win then only 80% collected and not 100%? I do not really understand that.
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I guess he means the probability that the win will be collected is 80%. So the hope that he still gets the win is rather low
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The lawyer says 50/50 chance.
From what I have heard and knowing how the state power is on it I think 80/20.
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