[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player
22nd Jan. 2020, at 03:23 pm CET#114
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Katharina2 wrote on 22/01/2020 at 12:16 PM
So you can only wait and see how it is decided. Only PayPal
will go further. Hope you are aware of that as well. Good luck.
Yes, we are all waiting because it is really high time for an OLG, a supreme court ruling!
Yes, I am aware.
@Begbie
were your wins actually deducted from your deposits for the amount in dispute you are talking about?
For this I would have to have won but I have not, so this is irrelevant for me.
[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player
22nd Jan. 2020, at 03:31 pm CET#115
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@born4nothing
From today on, at the latest when the new gambling treaty is sealed, you will lose every case. 100%!
There will be only a handful of licenses in Germany. All casinos without a license in Germany will be banned and can then no longer argue with Malta and Co.
Mo1985 wrote on 22.01.2020 at 15:31: @born4nothing
Starting today, at the latest when the new Gluecksspielstaatsvertrag is sealed, you will lose every lawsuit. 100%!
There will be only a handful of licenses in Germany. All casinos without a license in Germany will be banned and can then no longer argue with Malta and Co.
A handful of licenses would be exactly what the EU has criticized in the award of sports betting licenses a few years ago or considered not permissible... Is therefore unlikely
[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player
22nd Jan. 2020, at 03:48 pm CET#119
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Begbie wrote on 01/22/2020 at 3:42 pm
What? You have NEVER won anything? o_O
"Yes", stood so at least in my account balance in the OC but as it just the devil so wants to burn everything again because they have stalled me with payouts partly 10 days and more, despite complete Verification, and what happens then knows everyone... and when I had won once high, I was denied the payouts because I was supposed to have played with bonus. Only in the account was no bonus to see only after I talked to the Live Chat and because I then did not meet the bonus conditions was me the account to zero.
"Yes", stood so at least in my account balance in the OC but as it just the devil so wants to burn everything again because they have stalled me with payouts partly 10 days and more and what happens then knows everyone... and when I had won once high were denied me the payouts because I should have played allegedly with bonus. Only in the account was no bonus to see only after I talked to the Live Chat and because I then did not meet the bonus conditions was me the account to zero.
Sure, the "gamble" knows probably everyone here.
But then your Zockerkarriere was only of very short duration or?
[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player
22nd Jan. 2020, at 03:55 pm CET#121
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What do you mean by short duration?
But to put that into perspective: I've done the most damage in the last four months.
And everyone knows that when you win sums that you can't earn in life, you get greedy and think you can do it again... a vicious circle, but I've been out of the swamp since July 2019.
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[Chargeback] - Ulm Regional Court rules in favor of player
22nd Jan. 2020, at 04:32 pm CET#122
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Falko wrote on 22.01.2020 at 15:21
And what about the super rich and professional footballers who also gamble in casinos? For them 1000 euros per month limit is a mockery. If the state wants to earn on it with and this rich group that invests a lot with it completely excludes, then the tax revenue from it but will remain very low
Do you seriously believe that the gambling?
If then in Monte Carlo or Las Vegas but not on such OC sites like us
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yes so I think that the shot can also backfire. If one sues for repayment and thus the payment providers in recourse takes. It can happen that the payment providers will refuse any payment to OCs in the future. In addition, I could also imagine that some plaintiffs will be sued for fraud at some point. I mean every player knows that it was legally a gray area to play in OC, at least under German law. To then stand up and do, oh I didn't know that.
Gambling debts should also be debts of honor. It is just part of the fact that you can very well lose at OC. In the long run, if users are really successful with this, it will not take long before there will be consequences. The banks will no longer approve payments to OC, even wins will no longer be paid out.
The bottom line is that I think we will cut ourselves with it in the finger.could imagine the tables are turned and the plaintiff then a notice of fraud flutters into the house with corresponding cost note and blocking of the current account by the bank.because it was so nice comes a negative entry in the Schufa etc. to it and you get then nowhere more a loan or Dispo.
Problem might also be that such a process and such a lawsuit will cost really good money.it is yes casinos mainly sued in Malta. it is indeed EU yes but still abroad and thus such a procedure will be extremely expensive and take a long time.
Well if someone has gambled away eg. 100,000 euros and then gets half again, for so Jemanden can be worthwhile. If he can pull off the tour of the unsuspecting. Some courts have decided to the disadvantage of the player.
Imagine you buy a brand new car for 50,000 euros and then sue the manufacturer after a few weeks for chargeback. What economic consequences that would have.
I'm very curious how this thing will end up legally. believe that there will be a rude awakening for some and do not believe that the financial industry will look at the long with.
From PayPal I have already heard that want to withdraw from the gambling sector, although they were once the market leader. many casinos no longer accept Paypal as a payment option.
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Yes, we are all waiting because it is really high time for an OLG, a supreme court ruling!
Yes, I am aware.
@Begbie
For this I would have to have won but I have not, so this is irrelevant for me.
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From today on, at the latest when the new gambling treaty is sealed, you will lose every case. 100%!
There will be only a handful of licenses in Germany. All casinos without a license in Germany will be banned and can then no longer argue with Malta and Co.
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Then I'm lucky that it was already 2017 ne?^^
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What do you mean? You have NEVER won anything? o_O
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A handful of licenses would be exactly what the EU has criticized in the award of sports betting licenses a few years ago or considered not permissible... Is therefore unlikely
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"Yes", stood so at least in my account balance in the OC but as it just the devil so wants to burn everything again because they have stalled me with payouts partly 10 days and more, despite complete Verification, and what happens then knows everyone... and when I had won once high, I was denied the payouts because I was supposed to have played with bonus. Only in the account was no bonus to see only after I talked to the Live Chat and because I then did not meet the bonus conditions was me the account to zero.
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Sure, the "gamble" knows probably everyone here.
But then your Zockerkarriere was only of very short duration or?
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But to put that into perspective: I've done the most damage in the last four months.
And everyone knows that when you win sums that you can't earn in life, you get greedy and think you can do it again... a vicious circle, but I've been out of the swamp since July 2019.
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Do you seriously believe that the gambling?
If then in Monte Carlo or Las Vegas but not on such OC sites like us
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yes so I think that the shot can also backfire. If one sues for repayment and thus the payment providers in recourse takes. It can happen that the payment providers will refuse any payment to OCs in the future. In addition, I could also imagine that some plaintiffs will be sued for fraud at some point. I mean every player knows that it was legally a gray area to play in OC, at least under German law. To then stand up and do, oh I didn't know that.
Gambling debts should also be debts of honor. It is just part of the fact that you can very well lose at OC. In the long run, if users are really successful with this, it will not take long before there will be consequences. The banks will no longer approve payments to OC, even wins will no longer be paid out.
The bottom line is that I think we will cut ourselves with it in the finger.could imagine the tables are turned and the plaintiff then a notice of fraud flutters into the house with corresponding cost note and blocking of the current account by the bank.because it was so nice comes a negative entry in the Schufa etc. to it and you get then nowhere more a loan or Dispo.
Problem might also be that such a process and such a lawsuit will cost really good money.it is yes casinos mainly sued in Malta. it is indeed EU yes but still abroad and thus such a procedure will be extremely expensive and take a long time.
Well if someone has gambled away eg. 100,000 euros and then gets half again, for so Jemanden can be worthwhile. If he can pull off the tour of the unsuspecting. Some courts have decided to the disadvantage of the player.
Imagine you buy a brand new car for 50,000 euros and then sue the manufacturer after a few weeks for chargeback. What economic consequences that would have.
I'm very curious how this thing will end up legally. believe that there will be a rude awakening for some and do not believe that the financial industry will look at the long with.
From PayPal I have already heard that want to withdraw from the gambling sector, although they were once the market leader. many casinos no longer accept Paypal as a payment option.
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