Laws on OC in D are legally untenable. Money service providers are not the
money nanny' for responsible citizens and if I am addicted the doctor is responsible for me.
Ultimately, we know what we are getting into. The industry can be unscrupulous.
Also, the 'gambling behavior' plays a big role, that every player has to
check. No matter whether lotto, Toto, lottery, OC and like they are all called, everywhere there is
Danger of addiction. Chargeback in any case, is not the right solution. Guess once,
that PayPal will succeed
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21st Jan. 2020, at 03:35 pm CET#85
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Katharina2 wrote on 21.01.2020 at 15:11: Laws on OC in D are legally untenable. Money service providers are not the
'money nanny' for responsible citizens and if I am addicted the doctor is responsible for me.
Ultimately, we know what we are getting into. The industry can be unscrupulous.
Also, the 'gambling behavior' plays a big role, that every player has to
check. No matter whether lotto, Toto, lottery, OC and like they are all called, everywhere there is
Danger of addiction. Chargeback in any case, is not the right solution. Guess once,
that PayPal will succeed.
Of course, everyone who gambles knows what he is getting into!
No matter if you are a gambling addict or a drug addict.
And also you should act against it if you recognize your addiction!
Nevertheless, one should also call to account those who violate prohibitions!
These are nowmal not only the Online Casinos and the players but also the payment providers.
You don't let a drug Dealer go just because he doesn't cook the drugs himself but brokers the money.
upola wrote on 21.01.2020 at 15:37: For me, the term Gambling addiction is used far too inflationary.
Meanwhile, almost everyone who has lost something is a gambling addict.
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21st Jan. 2020, at 06:19 pm CET#88
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Quckie wrote on 21.01.2020 at 15:35
Of course everyone who gambles knows what they are getting into!
No matter if you are a gambling addict or a drug addict.
And also you should take action against it when you realize your addiction!
Nevertheless, one should also call to account those who violate prohibitions!
These are nowmal not only the Online Casinos and the players but also the payment providers.
You don't let a drug Dealer go just because he doesn't cook the drugs himself but brokers the money.
The comparison is misleading because the players are completely different. To compare PP with
criminals is adventurous, dangerous. And what the prohibitions
it must not be right if monopolistic interests as well as private
Responsibility is carried out on the back of money service providers of all coleur.
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21st Jan. 2020, at 06:41 pm CET#89
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Born4Nothing wrote on 21.01.2020 at 14:16: Main thing stupidly rambled out without having thought about it or?
The ban is there and has been for a long time! Since you also do not need to come with insane future scenarios....and even if then it is also a ban
What do you do if it is now legalized? Is it then okay that advertising animates people to gamble their belongings?
I understand that you rely on the law, but what I think I want to know from you is whether you think the law is good and your personal opinion on whether people should be protected with the law more and more and leave no freedoms? Alcohol, etc. completely prohibit because there are also many problems. How much freedom is allowed?
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21st Jan. 2020, at 06:42 pm CET#90
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Katharina2 wrote on 21.01.2020 at 18:19
The comparison is already lame because the players are completely different. PP with
criminals is already adventurous, dangerous. And what the prohibitions
it must not be right if monopolistic interests as well as private
Responsibility is carried out on the back of money service providers of all coleur.
Of course, you can also turn everything the way you want.
Online casinos are forbidden in Germany. PayPal and how they are all called transfer money there and participate so in something forbidden!
So why not punish them too?
Quckie wrote on 21.01.2020 at 18:42
Of course you can spin everything the way you want.
Online casinos are banned in Germany. PayPal and how they are all called transfer money there and participate so in something forbidden!
So why not punish them as well?
If you think about it logically, the answer to your question is actually a no-brainer:
Because Paypal didn't come to you and persuade you to transfer money to an OC, but you went to Paypal because you wanted to do exactly that and were happy that your favorite method is available.
The equivalent would be someone who ratted out their Dealer to the cops because they got caught......more need not be said......
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21st Jan. 2020, at 08:41 pm CET#92
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If the casinos have to pay, we probably won't be able to play online anymore.
The player pays in, wins, everything is great, but if he loses, he sues the payment Provider? Who still takes the Risk and carries out the transfers?
And what about when I go to a state-run casino? Actually, I can then also repeat my money there if I lose it. In my 5 previous visits, no one has made me aware that it is not good to play.
Yes, questions about questions. But I wait first and in a few months / years I know more.
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21st Jan. 2020, at 09:26 pm CET#93
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All those who are against chargeback are forgetting something very important.
The Online Casinos and their game providers do not differ from each other.
Let's assume that player A is at casino A:
Player makes a Deposit of 50 €. Player A wins €300 on a slot
The next day, Player A goes to Casino B. Suddenly, Player loses his €300
Although these two casinos have nothing to do with each other, player A loses exactly the amount he lost the day before.
Or another case:
Player A goes to Casino A. He loads €100 and this he loses. He plays on at least 25 different slots, but in the process almost no slot gets freespins or bonus. He goes to the next casino and loads €100 again. Again exactly the same. Player A gambles away 14000 € within a few months. None of it is ever back, while VIP customers or streamers laugh their heads off at the pile of money.
Guess who player A is? I have no more money and don't know how to get out of debt. I can no longer sleep properly, have constant panic attacks and just do not know what to do. Yes the addiction is still there, why? Because it has become pathological, because I want to somehow try to get my money and thus be Debt free. I come from poor circumstances and wanted my family to be rich somehow....I wanted to make everyone happy...but I didn't manage to do that and thus pulled everyone more into poverty. And all because of me. I have through gambling, a total of 49000 € in debt. What should I do in your opinion? Chargeback would be my salvation, but I do not dare.
Besides, you will never win as much as you have deposited. Believe me, I have been playing actively for 3 years and I have never won back the amount I lost.
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money nanny' for responsible citizens and if I am addicted the doctor is responsible for me.
Ultimately, we know what we are getting into. The industry can be unscrupulous.
Also, the 'gambling behavior' plays a big role, that every player has to
check. No matter whether lotto, Toto, lottery, OC and like they are all called, everywhere there is
Danger of addiction. Chargeback in any case, is not the right solution. Guess once,
that PayPal will succeed
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Of course, everyone who gambles knows what he is getting into!
No matter if you are a gambling addict or a drug addict.
And also you should act against it if you recognize your addiction!
Nevertheless, one should also call to account those who violate prohibitions!
These are nowmal not only the Online Casinos and the players but also the payment providers.
You don't let a drug Dealer go just because he doesn't cook the drugs himself but brokers the money.
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Meanwhile, almost everyone who has lost something is a gambling addict.
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I see, quite the same
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The comparison is misleading because the players are completely different. To compare PP with
criminals is adventurous, dangerous. And what the prohibitions
it must not be right if monopolistic interests as well as private
Responsibility is carried out on the back of money service providers of all coleur.
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What do you do if it is now legalized? Is it then okay that advertising animates people to gamble their belongings?
I understand that you rely on the law, but what I think I want to know from you is whether you think the law is good and your personal opinion on whether people should be protected with the law more and more and leave no freedoms? Alcohol, etc. completely prohibit because there are also many problems. How much freedom is allowed?
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Of course, you can also turn everything the way you want.
Online casinos are forbidden in Germany. PayPal and how they are all called transfer money there and participate so in something forbidden!
So why not punish them too?
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If you think about it logically, the answer to your question is actually a no-brainer:
Because Paypal didn't come to you and persuade you to transfer money to an OC, but you went to Paypal because you wanted to do exactly that and were happy that your favorite method is available.
The equivalent would be someone who ratted out their Dealer to the cops because they got caught......more need not be said......
EDIT: Yes, one more thing
REAL HONOR PEOPLE!!!!!
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The player pays in, wins, everything is great, but if he loses, he sues the payment Provider? Who still takes the Risk and carries out the transfers?
And what about when I go to a state-run casino? Actually, I can then also repeat my money there if I lose it. In my 5 previous visits, no one has made me aware that it is not good to play.
Yes, questions about questions. But I wait first and in a few months / years I know more.
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The Online Casinos and their game providers do not differ from each other.
Let's assume that player A is at casino A:
Player makes a Deposit of 50 €. Player A wins €300 on a slot
The next day, Player A goes to Casino B. Suddenly, Player loses his €300
Although these two casinos have nothing to do with each other, player A loses exactly the amount he lost the day before.
Or another case:
Player A goes to Casino A. He loads €100 and this he loses. He plays on at least 25 different slots, but in the process almost no slot gets freespins or bonus. He goes to the next casino and loads €100 again. Again exactly the same. Player A gambles away 14000 € within a few months. None of it is ever back, while VIP customers or streamers laugh their heads off at the pile of money.
Guess who player A is? I have no more money and don't know how to get out of debt. I can no longer sleep properly, have constant panic attacks and just do not know what to do. Yes the addiction is still there, why? Because it has become pathological, because I want to somehow try to get my money and thus be Debt free. I come from poor circumstances and wanted my family to be rich somehow....I wanted to make everyone happy...but I didn't manage to do that and thus pulled everyone more into poverty. And all because of me. I have through gambling, a total of 49000 € in debt. What should I do in your opinion? Chargeback would be my salvation, but I do not dare.
Besides, you will never win as much as you have deposited. Believe me, I have been playing actively for 3 years and I have never won back the amount I lost.
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