Born4Nothing wrote on 21.01.2020 at 11:05 am
Fact is, there is a ban and that has interested no one so far. The LG Ulm has clearly established that the gambling treaty is individualschützend it is a ban. Therefore, everything else is quite irrelevant.
One point I do not understand here
In your first contribution, you spoke of the negative side effects that can arise from gambling addiction.
These can arise, whether legal or illegal, even in completely legal arcades/casinos/sports betting.
So if it's not "about the money" for you, then I wonder why this point of all things is emphasized by you, because this is almost always mentioned by back-bookers
If it were legal, then the situation of gambling addicts would be identical with the difference that a chargeback would no longer work.
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21st Jan. 2020, at 10:39 pm CET#95
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Zwischenmeister wrote on 01/21/2020 at 8:08 pm
Thinking logically for a moment, the answer to your question is actually a no-brainer:
Because after all, PayPal didn't come to you and persuade you to transfer money to an OC, you went to Paypal because that's exactly what you wanted to do and were happy to see your favorite method available.
The equivalent would be someone who ratted out their Dealer to the cops because they got caught......more need not be said......
EDIT: Yes, one more thing
REAL HONOR PEOPLE!!!!!
So in your opinion the "honor people" are those who break the law to enrich themselves?
And no of course Paypal or anyone else has not approached a player and asked him to play...
But neither does a drug dealer.
Nevertheless both break the law!
And if you do not act against lawbreaking you do not need laws.
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22nd Jan. 2020, at 03:32 am CET#96
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Quckie wrote on 01/21/2020 at 10:39 pm
So in your opinion the "honor people" are those who break the law to enrich themselves?
And no of course PayPal or anyone else didn't approach a player and ask them to gamble...
But neither does a drug dealer.
Nevertheless both break the law!
And if you do not act against lawbreaking you do not need laws.
And yes, I would blow the whistle on a drug dealer
But hopefully only after buying and consuming his goods for several months. Otherwise we get off example.
THE PROBLEM IS YOU! You alone have it in the hand whether you put the 5€ bill in a machine or put it to the savings book.
It will never solve your problems, even if you can always get your money back, even if everything would be blocked and banned
Your problem remains. As long as your attitude does not change, you will always escape into an illusory world, with whatever.
You decide whether you get up in the morning, go to work and make something out of your life or whether you stay lying and whining. If there were no casinos, you would complain about something else and whine
So, "If you're physically healthy, you can change your attitude right away."
But whining and blaming others is just easier.
There are enough examples where people have IMMEDIATELY stopped or started smoking, drinking, gambling or anything else, e.g. sports
Every other comment I read in this thread made me realize once again where I live and what kind of mentality I'm surrounded by. Just sucks. Will only want to get out of here
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22nd Jan. 2020, at 07:27 am CET#99
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Will777 wrote on 22.01.2020 at 06:23: Every other comment I've read in this thread has made me realize once again where I live and what kind of mentality I'm surrounded by. Just sucks. Will only want to leave here
Rarely such opinions meanwhile & in this case I really have to give right, because that's exactly what I realize every time you read through some posts here. The only positive thing is that this fortunately leads to the fact that you get from day to day more and more distance to all this & accordingly also to gamble & one becomes clear in what you actually got into & his life no longer can be controlled by it
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Will777 wrote on 22.01.2020 at 06:23: Every other comment I've read in this thread has made me realize once again where I live and what kind of mentality I'm surrounded by. Just sucks. Will just want to get out of here
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What will you do if it is legalized after all?
@smallpictures
What if? Do we want to speculate about a possible future? I stick to the here and now because that's all that's relevant to me right now.
@Freddy
Because just the effect of it have made clear to me more than only, which suffering is brought to light.
Who knows my story knows that I did not sue PayPal because I wanted lumpy 10,000 EUR again but because of arbitrariness, stubbornness and ignorance on the part of Paypal! And I do not let myself get screwed also not, from anyone!
@Mammon
The problem is YOU!? Really?
This statement finds only use if one does not have the view and farsightedness and only before itself drifts, the large whole cannot recognize thereby and prohibitions not to recognize wants. Stupidly only that it represents evenly a prohibition! No matter how much you squirm and try to blame the victims in the shoes!
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22nd Jan. 2020, at 10:42 am CET#102
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Quckie wrote on 21.01.2020 at 18:42
Of course you can spin everything the way you want.
Online casinos are banned in Germany. PayPal and how they are all called transfer money there and participate so in something forbidden!
So why not punish them as well?
I had already written that laws and prohibitions in Germany are not legally
are not legally tenable, because D is in a gray area and first of all his law
and prohibitions after European un ion laws to align must. Currently D
against the free service law in Europe and is monopolitically also otherwise
wrongly on the way. Reminders and warnings on the part of the EU failed.
Already therefore players are left in peace. If you will, laws
and prohibitions in D a fake. If PayPal now goes further, this will also play
play a role. Of course I have understanding for the suffering of the person concerned, no
no question, only he speaks himself of 90.0 T€ and there goes with some others at
i-a stop line to 90.000 € not only a light, but a gigantic chandelier on.
Does not help it now also further; nevertheless I wish it luck, before the things
turn according to EU laws.
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22nd Jan. 2020, at 10:53 am CET#103
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Katharina2 wrote on 22.01.2020 at 10:42 am
I had already written that laws and bans in D are not legally
are not legally tenable, because D is in a gray area and must first of all align its laws and bans with EU laws
and bans according to EU laws. Currently D
against the free service law in Europe and is monopolitically also otherwise
wrongly on the way. Reminders and warnings on the part of the EU failed.
Already therefore players are left in peace. If you will, laws
and prohibitions in D a fake. If PayPal now goes further, this will also play
play a role. Of course I have understanding for the suffering of the person concerned, no
no question, only he speaks himself of 90.0 T€ and there goes with some others at
i-a stop line to 90.000 € not only a light, but a gigantic chandelier on.
Does not help it now also further; nevertheless I wish it luck, before the things
turn according to EU laws.
Well then take a look at this: ECJ ( Läärä , C-124/97, EU:C:1999:435)
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One point I do not understand here
In your first contribution, you spoke of the negative side effects that can arise from gambling addiction.
These can arise, whether legal or illegal, even in completely legal arcades/casinos/sports betting.
So if it's not "about the money" for you, then I wonder why this point of all things is emphasized by you, because this is almost always mentioned by back-bookers
If it were legal, then the situation of gambling addicts would be identical with the difference that a chargeback would no longer work.
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So in your opinion the "honor people" are those who break the law to enrich themselves?
And no of course Paypal or anyone else has not approached a player and asked him to play...
But neither does a drug dealer.
Nevertheless both break the law!
And if you do not act against lawbreaking you do not need laws.
And yes I would snitch on a drug dealer
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But hopefully only after buying and consuming his goods for several months. Otherwise we get off example.
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THE PROBLEM IS YOU! You alone have it in the hand whether you put the 5€ bill in a machine or put it to the savings book.
It will never solve your problems, even if you can always get your money back, even if everything would be blocked and banned
Your problem remains. As long as your attitude does not change, you will always escape into an illusory world, with whatever.
You decide whether you get up in the morning, go to work and make something out of your life or whether you stay lying and whining. If there were no casinos, you would complain about something else and whine
So, "If you're physically healthy, you can change your attitude right away."
But whining and blaming others is just easier.
There are enough examples where people have IMMEDIATELY stopped or started smoking, drinking, gambling or anything else, e.g. sports
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Rarely such opinions meanwhile & in this case I really have to give right, because that's exactly what I realize every time you read through some posts here. The only positive thing is that this fortunately leads to the fact that you get from day to day more and more distance to all this & accordingly also to gamble & one becomes clear in what you actually got into & his life no longer can be controlled by it
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Yes surrounded by the parasite man 😂
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@smallpictures
What if? Do we want to speculate about a possible future? I stick to the here and now because that's all that's relevant to me right now.
@Freddy
Because just the effect of it have made clear to me more than only, which suffering is brought to light.
Who knows my story knows that I did not sue PayPal because I wanted lumpy 10,000 EUR again but because of arbitrariness, stubbornness and ignorance on the part of Paypal! And I do not let myself get screwed also not, from anyone!
@Mammon
The problem is YOU!? Really?
This statement finds only use if one does not have the view and farsightedness and only before itself drifts, the large whole cannot recognize thereby and prohibitions not to recognize wants. Stupidly only that it represents evenly a prohibition! No matter how much you squirm and try to blame the victims in the shoes!
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I had already written that laws and prohibitions in Germany are not legally
are not legally tenable, because D is in a gray area and first of all his law
and prohibitions after European un ion laws to align must. Currently D
against the free service law in Europe and is monopolitically also otherwise
wrongly on the way. Reminders and warnings on the part of the EU failed.
Already therefore players are left in peace. If you will, laws
and prohibitions in D a fake. If PayPal now goes further, this will also play
play a role. Of course I have understanding for the suffering of the person concerned, no
no question, only he speaks himself of 90.0 T€ and there goes with some others at
i-a stop line to 90.000 € not only a light, but a gigantic chandelier on.
Does not help it now also further; nevertheless I wish it luck, before the things
turn according to EU laws.
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Well then take a look at this: ECJ ( Läärä , C-124/97, EU:C:1999:435)
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