Klempo77 wrote on 26/03/2019 at 09:15: So, I had a very unpleasant conversation with my bank about this. They wanted me to retrieve money from casino, because online gambling is prohibited in Germany
Have casino written to, and sache described, of course, they wanted to know nothing about it
I then talked to my lawyer, and he said it is solely up to the bank, if they want to have it, because the bank has transferred money itself, although they knew it, anyway
Have it also so forwarded to bank, and further nothing happened. Is already a few months ago
As for chargeback, you have to sue the bank, that's the only way. But who wants to take up with bank in court, there are certainly best business lawyers in the world😊😊
Although it is illegal, they will find a hole, and you are stuck with the lawyer costs
As far as I know, are several lawsuits against banks in court, and without a / first judgment, there is not much happening
And the whole thing takes too long to get a few hundred euros back.
Kleinkariert wrote on 03/25/2019 at 22:29
There we have it again, as long as the evil casino pays everything is ok and if times does not run you just pretend as if they have lured a sneaky in the corner and stripped there a bit, verg... have and then you woke up afterwards only with underpants and a pack of soap in the middle of Berlin and had to fight back from the evil crooks the money.
After that is done you go to the nice flashing entrance, there everything glitters quite nicely and here seem to be really cool people. Here you are guaranteed to win, what again not? Fraud FRAUD!!! I smash the box!!! Oh no a Turk who wins, why do Germans never win rofl first thrown the Turk in his country, there comes already the Bulgarian run. I slam directly full in the nose Yes! And because I already know since 23.04.2018 that it does not happen with right things at Videoslots I already complain all full and still continue to play there, but it just does not change I have already used up my special tears.
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I am not disturbed by the text, only the package of soap irritates me. Underpants, Berlin, crooks - all clear and mega conclusive... But for what/why the soap? And: Is it core or from'm dispenser soap?
The site is indeed a bit strange. The operator is allegedly known from Focus, Tagesschau, Plusminus, Die Welt, Spiegel, Frankfurter Rundschau and RP Online, has "already reclaimed over 3 million euros" and has only managed 13 reviews!? And these are then for the most part also written somewhat turgidly for my taste
What can one conclude from this? Either the customers are not so satisfied or the operators of the side do not make their marketing correctly and do not ask their customers with success actively to leave an evaluation. The latter I can not imagine with the very marketing-focused website.
I would be skeptical and if I would do something like this, then with a lawyer I trust. To anyone who wants to try this, I can only strongly recommend to start a serious Gambling addiction therapy at the same time
I am not a lawyer and can therefore not judge what consequences such a thing can entail. Perhaps it will come to a trial at some point, which you will lose. In such a case, how do you explain to a judge that you got your money back and then went back to gambling?
If you do that (and it actually works out in the end), then you should be gambling-free just in case, or at least be able to prove that you are seriously working on your addiction. Otherwise, none of this makes sense.
Personally, I wouldn't go to this Provider and would rather get advice from a well-known, trustworthy lawyer from my region.
An initial consultation may cost a maximum of 190€ or 226.10€. However, I have never experienced that a lawyer charges the maximum rate. Most of the time I have paid between 50€ and 100€ for an initial consultation. If everything is as secure as it is claimed on the website, then you will be much cheaper with a normal lawyer.
Edit: I just watched the video and there is also spoken of risks or briefly around some corners around it:
Quote from promotional video: [...] the jurisprudence on the subject of online gambling is extremely young, there are no well-trodden paths and hardly any case law on the subject. Even more so, there is little case law from higher courts. So there are risks [...]
There are also few facts mentioned in these videos. There are often sentences such as "our opinion" or "we see no Risk, but could happen" in the videos. I would be cautious and would go, if at all, to a lawyer from whom I know that this has a good reputation in my region and would not want to risk it. With wirholendeingeld.de I would personally be skeptical.
So I've just read through the reviews and have to give Daniel right, the scream already something of fake. Very funny written, all with passable spelling. For comparison, Vodafone on Trustpilot - there you can see how real reviews look on the Internet And honestly, how serious can you think the guys who have to read off the videos and stand in front of a green screen? And why do they call themselves wirholendeingeld de? 15 years ago, pages with a 24 in the URL were considered unserious. That is over. Today I count something like ichmachdeinemuddernass de among them.
above all, all of their evaluations were positive, but if you think about it, who writes a positive evaluation? if everything is to my satisfaction, then that's nothing special, but I take that for granted, which is how most people think. but if you are dissatisfied with a service, then you have the need to tell others about it
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Which bank is it? can you tell us?
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I am not disturbed by the text, only the package of soap irritates me. Underpants, Berlin, crooks - all clear and mega conclusive... But for what/why the soap? And: Is it core or from'm dispenser soap?
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The site is indeed a bit strange. The operator is allegedly known from Focus, Tagesschau, Plusminus, Die Welt, Spiegel, Frankfurter Rundschau and RP Online, has "already reclaimed over 3 million euros" and has only managed 13 reviews!? And these are then for the most part also written somewhat turgidly for my taste
What can one conclude from this? Either the customers are not so satisfied or the operators of the side do not make their marketing correctly and do not ask their customers with success actively to leave an evaluation. The latter I can not imagine with the very marketing-focused website.
I would be skeptical and if I would do something like this, then with a lawyer I trust. To anyone who wants to try this, I can only strongly recommend to start a serious Gambling addiction therapy at the same time
I am not a lawyer and can therefore not judge what consequences such a thing can entail. Perhaps it will come to a trial at some point, which you will lose. In such a case, how do you explain to a judge that you got your money back and then went back to gambling?
If you do that (and it actually works out in the end), then you should be gambling-free just in case, or at least be able to prove that you are seriously working on your addiction. Otherwise, none of this makes sense.
Personally, I wouldn't go to this Provider and would rather get advice from a well-known, trustworthy lawyer from my region.
An initial consultation may cost a maximum of 190€ or 226.10€. However, I have never experienced that a lawyer charges the maximum rate. Most of the time I have paid between 50€ and 100€ for an initial consultation. If everything is as secure as it is claimed on the website, then you will be much cheaper with a normal lawyer.
Edit: I just watched the video and there is also spoken of risks or briefly around some corners around it:
There are also few facts mentioned in these videos. There are often sentences such as "our opinion" or "we see no Risk, but could happen" in the videos. I would be cautious and would go, if at all, to a lawyer from whom I know that this has a good reputation in my region and would not want to risk it. With wirholendeingeld.de I would personally be skeptical.
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Yes, but then the next comes and founds wirholendeingeldvonwirholendeingeldvonwirholendeingeldzurück.de
There is never an end to it ...
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That's exactly how it is (most of the time). And there I can again bring the example of Vodafone (0.6 of 5 at TP).
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