When I look at the picture here on their website, I feel like I'm watching one of those infomercials where some American, low-quality junk is being sold. LOL
Attorney's fees for out-of-court and court representation in the first instance as well as court costs for an average amount in dispute of 10,000 euros.
I also had an out-of-court dispute value of 50,000€ and I had to pay a good lawyer around 2,500€. The whole thing happened more than 10 years ago. According to their calculation I would have had to pay 22,730€ at that time. With such prices no sow goes nevertheless more to a lawyer. If the fees have not increased tenfold in recent years, these figures are somewhat exaggerated and the gentlemen think players are very stupid^^ What I also wonder is why the chances should be lower with other Rechtsverdrehern?
If they are successful they get 35% + 6,65% tax. And what about the VAT? Does it come on top or does the law firm not have to charge it? In the best case you get 58.35% and in the shitcase 39.35% back. That means you get 390€ back from 1.000€ and may have problems to get a loan in the future. And what happens if it goes wrong? Lawyers are not error free and in the end you have to pay back not the 390€ but the complete 1.000€ in the long run. The lawyer is with "your money" then already over the hills and you were f**ked twice. First by the Online Casinos and then by some questionable lawyers on websites at homeshooping level
In both cases the assf**king was then completely self-inflicted. I would only consider something like this if this was the only way I could avert homelessness.
Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? That is the most important requirement to get away from addiction and become a non-gambler or a controlled gambler. I am writing from experience! If someone always pulls you out of the shit (mom, dad, dad state or brother-in-law wirholendeingeld.de) then it will be nothing and the recovered money will end up either in the next best daddle box or in the next best online casino. And then what? Do you then want to get back 39.35% of the newly gambled 390€? At some point even that ends in the minus, LOL
Kleinkariert wrote on 03/25/2019 at 22:29
There we have it again, as long as the evil casino pays everything is ok and if times does not run you just pretend as if they have lured a sneaky in the corner and stripped there a bit, verg... have and then you woke up afterwards only with underpants and a pack of soap in the middle of Berlin and had to fight back from the evil crooks the money.
After that is done you go to the nice flashing entrance, there everything glitters quite nicely and here seem to be really cool people. Here you are guaranteed to win, what again not? Fraud FRAUD!!! I'll bust the box!!! Oh no a Turk who wins, why do Germans never win rofl first thrown the Turk in his country, there comes already the Bulgarian run. I slam directly full in the nose Yes! And because I already know since 23.04.2018 that it does not happen with right things at Videoslots I already complain all full and still continue to play there, but it just does not change I have already used up my special tears.
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Eating and drinking still works?
I have not claimed that someone cheats or anything else in this direction. For example, I am talking about some bonus rules or delaying the payout. This is morally indefensible for me...my God. Why is everyone here like a raw piece of meat? Everyone is so irritated and just waiting for the next opportunity to tease... For me, it looks like people are just blowing off steam here because no books came again
DrPepper wrote on 03/26/2019 00:51 AM Food and drink still working out?
I have not claimed that anyone cheats or anything else in this direction. For example, I'm talking about some bonus rules or delaying the payout. This is morally indefensible for me...my God. Why is everyone here like a raw piece of meat? Everyone so irritated and just waiting for the next opportunity to tease... To me it seems like people are just blowing off steam here because again no books came
To be honest, you're pretty much taunting yourself (highlighted in bold). And my post wasn't just directed at you, only a short part of it was directed at you (That just because others act immorally doesn't mean you have to do the same). But the self-defense mode was already on with you.
There are casinos where there is no delay and also no bonus or bonus that are either easy or the software prevents a violation of the bonus rules, everyone is free where he plays and you should think about where and under what conditions you play. The same happens every day, people do not make a bit of effort and whine only afterwards, of course I understand the frustration, but you ALWAYS have the opportunity to inform themselves. Only use that really few.
So that you do not misunderstand. I've been game free for about 1 year and just suddenly saw this ad and thought to myself:
cool, I'm sure I still have all my credit card statements from 2017 somewhere
That would be about 4500 €, which I could invest just so (with my current knowledge) sensibly in my portfolio
I do not care now, because I never want to have anything to do with gambling again or invest there but, if there is this possibility, there is nothing morally against it to use it
But thank you for your opinions. For me it is too risky to get stress with the bank and to lose my credit card and co or to have consequences with further processes, etc....
for the time being, you can only get back the last 13 months.
everything that happened longer ago is being prepared for a class action lawsuit.
that it will actually come is also still in the stars.
a detail that they do not state on their website.
Sunnyundflo wrote on 26.03.2019 at 04:28 clock: But you skieht yes fortunately again there are no positive experiences with the money back ! because such a thing always has a haken
Hmm yes, really funny that on this platform no one comments on the positive experiences regarding "get money back", what could be the reason for that?
It is also strange that many payment providers, especially PayPal, are leaving the online gambling sector.
All of them have and can continue to earn themselves silly - and suddenly they don't want your money anymore, I don't understand?
Then there are all the law firms/lawyers who are dealing with this, probably just out of boredom?
Well, I had a very unpleasant conversation with my bank about this. They wanted me to get the money back from the casino, because online gambling is forbidden in Germany
Have casino written to, and sache described, of course, they wanted to know nothing about it
I then talked to my lawyer, and he said it is solely up to the bank, if they want to have it, because the bank has transferred money itself, although they knew it, anyway
I also forwarded it to the bank, and nothing happened. Is already a few months ago
As for chargeback, you have to sue the bank, that's the only way. But who wants to take up with bank in court, there are certainly best business lawyers in the world😊😊
Although it is illegal, they will find a hole, and you are stuck with the lawyer costs
As far as I know, are several lawsuits against banks in court, and without a / first judgment, there is not much happening
And the whole thing takes too long to get a few hundred euros back
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I also had an out-of-court dispute value of 50,000€ and I had to pay a good lawyer around 2,500€. The whole thing happened more than 10 years ago. According to their calculation I would have had to pay 22,730€ at that time. With such prices no sow goes nevertheless more to a lawyer. If the fees have not increased tenfold in recent years, these figures are somewhat exaggerated and the gentlemen think players are very stupid^^ What I also wonder is why the chances should be lower with other Rechtsverdrehern?
If they are successful they get 35% + 6,65% tax. And what about the VAT? Does it come on top or does the law firm not have to charge it? In the best case you get 58.35% and in the shitcase 39.35% back. That means you get 390€ back from 1.000€ and may have problems to get a loan in the future. And what happens if it goes wrong? Lawyers are not error free and in the end you have to pay back not the 390€ but the complete 1.000€ in the long run. The lawyer is with "your money" then already over the hills and you were f**ked twice. First by the Online Casinos and then by some questionable lawyers on websites at homeshooping level
In both cases the assf**king was then completely self-inflicted. I would only consider something like this if this was the only way I could avert homelessness.
Have you ever heard of personal responsibility? That is the most important requirement to get away from addiction and become a non-gambler or a controlled gambler. I am writing from experience! If someone always pulls you out of the shit (mom, dad, dad state or brother-in-law wirholendeingeld.de) then it will be nothing and the recovered money will end up either in the next best daddle box or in the next best online casino. And then what? Do you then want to get back 39.35% of the newly gambled 390€? At some point even that ends in the minus, LOL
Grow up people, grow up!
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Eating and drinking still works?
I have not claimed that someone cheats or anything else in this direction. For example, I am talking about some bonus rules or delaying the payout. This is morally indefensible for me...my God. Why is everyone here like a raw piece of meat? Everyone is so irritated and just waiting for the next opportunity to tease... For me, it looks like people are just blowing off steam here because no books came again
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To be honest, you're pretty much taunting yourself (highlighted in bold). And my post wasn't just directed at you, only a short part of it was directed at you (That just because others act immorally doesn't mean you have to do the same). But the self-defense mode was already on with you.
There are casinos where there is no delay and also no bonus or bonus that are either easy or the software prevents a violation of the bonus rules, everyone is free where he plays and you should think about where and under what conditions you play. The same happens every day, people do not make a bit of effort and whine only afterwards, of course I understand the frustration, but you ALWAYS have the opportunity to inform themselves. Only use that really few.
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I would be interested to know how long the waiting time is until the first "confirmations" of the chargebacks come in
And whether there were any subsequent problems with small loans or new cell phone contracts
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cool, I'm sure I still have all my credit card statements from 2017 somewhere
That would be about 4500 €, which I could invest just so (with my current knowledge) sensibly in my portfolio
I do not care now, because I never want to have anything to do with gambling again or invest there but, if there is this possibility, there is nothing morally against it to use it
But thank you for your opinions. For me it is too risky to get stress with the bank and to lose my credit card and co or to have consequences with further processes, etc....
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everything that happened longer ago is being prepared for a class action lawsuit.
that it will actually come is also still in the stars.
a detail that they do not state on their website.
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Hmm yes, really funny that on this platform no one comments on the positive experiences regarding "get money back", what could be the reason for that?
It is also strange that many payment providers, especially PayPal, are leaving the online gambling sector.
All of them have and can continue to earn themselves silly - and suddenly they don't want your money anymore, I don't understand?
Then there are all the law firms/lawyers who are dealing with this, probably just out of boredom?
Where there is probably the hook?
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Have casino written to, and sache described, of course, they wanted to know nothing about it
I then talked to my lawyer, and he said it is solely up to the bank, if they want to have it, because the bank has transferred money itself, although they knew it, anyway
I also forwarded it to the bank, and nothing happened. Is already a few months ago
As for chargeback, you have to sue the bank, that's the only way. But who wants to take up with bank in court, there are certainly best business lawyers in the world😊😊
Although it is illegal, they will find a hole, and you are stuck with the lawyer costs
As far as I know, are several lawsuits against banks in court, and without a / first judgment, there is not much happening
And the whole thing takes too long to get a few hundred euros back
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