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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?
27th Sep. 2020, at 12:14 am CEST#51
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@Latino
I was expecting this reaction and it confirms to me that I could even reveal many more things and you wouldn't believe anything I say. Also, I'm not the one who has to explain a business model to you just because you don't understand it. But yes I know, it would be so exciting to know how much you can earn and how much who gets for what. How much better deals can be depending on reach etc. All super exciting. A Streamer should disclose that too right? The pizza maker should also always indicate the purchase price of his pizza in the card. Don't get mad at me, but some things don't have to be understood by everyone.
Even if I would show it to you live, you could claim that the money is put on Skrill and so on.
In the end, the only way you will be left is to believe something or not. This decision is up to you
You asked for it. I have complied with the request and your opinion is: Could also be all fake. Ah yes, why did you want to see something like that? It does not matter. Do not answer.
For me this is the last post in this adventurous forum. I am not accountable and participated to show how we proceed and how I act. Gladly I wanted to show you my transparency with this, however I think I could never convince people like you of that. I have neither the time nor the leisure to do so. You are welcome to form your own opinion from the things I have presented. In the end, though, I would recommend my stream to you
On the subject of the balance sheet. I had this. For each casino individually, the deposits and withdrawals. After we have been after more than 6 months streaming about 25tsd euros in the plus, I have banned this table from the stream. This gives the not so slot-savvy viewer the impression that you can win in the casino in the long run. Such a list is more than counterproductive at the moment, because many would not understand that with pure raw deposits this result would probably have looked different. Therefore I try to work with verbal hints in my streams. I think every streamer may think about his own concept to deal with it and does not have to comply with your default
I wish you all a lot of fun here and maybe you will see one or the other as a viewer.
Who is Hater and why ? I hope you don't put Haten equal with critical inquiry....
@Latino
No. Why would I equate that with critical inquiry?
You are looking very closely at the subject of "streamers"
That's why I would call you a critic
I don't want to explain it to you and I think you understand how it was meant.
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?
27th Sep. 2020, at 03:34 am CEST#53
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Chrizzi wrote on 09/27/2020 at 03:28 PM
@Latino
No. Why would I equate that with critical inquiry?
You do look very closely what the topic "streamer" is concerned
That's why I would call you a critic
I don't want to explain it to you and I think you understand how it was meant.
This time I had put something in a quote but deleted it again. But I had adjusted a color but that was only for the quote. Everything is displayed normally
So why always?
Do I have to worry that you see colors that are not really there. Or do I not see any where they should be!
Oha, 500 IQ ?
And I thought you are not a fan of "pre-judgement" ? Your post is dripping with such pre-assumptions
Also, I'm not the one who has to explain a business model to you just because you don't understand it.
I have only asked - you have it with your "transparency initiative" But offered....(Btw: Prejudice?) - just consider the possibility that I understand "business models" better than you assume
But yes I know, it would be so exciting to know how much you can earn and how much who gets for what.
Yes well, I have a very precise idea of what slotstreamers earn - for you as a hint what you can still achieve : The income tax of every swede is public There you can see what the heavyweights skim off.
By the way, I never asked about your income and it is completely irrelevant to me (Btw: Prejudice?)
How much better can the deals be, depending on the range, etc.? All super exciting. A Streamer should disclose that too right?
Who preaches to want to be as transparent as possible ?
The pizza maker should also always state the purchase price of his pizza on the menu. Don't be angry with me, but some things don't have to be understood by everyone.
You have to practice the analogies - the pizza maker would be the casino owner in this comparison - you are just the one who goes out to catch customers to make the pizza (the casino) palatable (no matter how crappy it actually tastes). Also, I don't know of any case where excessive pizza consumption has led to financial disaster (small joke) And no, I'm not angry with you at all and of course not everyone has to understand everything - as I said, we don't want to make stupid people smart. (Btw: Prejudice?)
Even if I would show it to you live, you could claim that the money is put to me on Skrill etc.
Ultimately, the only way you will be left is to believe something or not. That decision is up to you
You asked for it. I have complied with the request and your opinion is: Could also be all fake. Ah yes, why did you want to see something like that? It does not matter. Do not answer.
Of course I answer: I have never asked for Skrillveräufen because you just as "proof" are not good - but you have (unasked) put in here. (Btw: Prejudice?)
For me this is the last post in this adventurous forum. I am not accountable and have participated to show how we proceed and how I act. I would love to show you my transparency with this, however I don't think I could ever convince people like you of that. I have neither the time nor the leisure to do so. You are welcome to form your own opinion from the things I have presented. In the end, though, I would recommend my stream to you.
You offered to show transparency and now you don't owe any accountability when asked critically? Of course, you are no one owe anything .... fits already. (Btw: Prejudice?) Besides, it's not just about my opinion even if I would not be convinced - it read here also others.
And of course I have watched yesterday at least partly your stream and in relation to your statements on this thread I have only one understood transparency...blablabla...Prejudice.... blablabla - well, is not wrong already times bischen mood against possible criticism to make - but you have expected
Now a point which you have possibly not so completely in the view : My opinion is not in this Thread of importance however other readers should stimulate themselves from the contributions evenly these to form to be able
On the subject with the balance. I had this. For each casino individually, the deposits and withdrawals. After we have been after more than 6 months streaming about 25tsd euros in plus, I have banned this table from the stream. This gives the not so slot-savvy viewer the impression that you can win in the casino in the long run. Such a list is more than counterproductive at the moment, because many would not understand that with pure raw deposits this result would probably have looked different. Therefore I try to work with verbal hints in my streams. I think every streamer may think about his own concept to deal with it and does not have to comply with your default.
There you go - such statements are exactly my thing : As we all know and also by Streamern again and again clearly is said the Streams can exist nevertheless only by the permanent bonus because in the long term +/-0 rumkommt and the earnings then from the Affiliate/Twitch incomes comes. Now you are probably one of those who were really lucky - like many of your fellow streamers. Well, some "groups" shines - against the (mathematical) probability - the sun directly from God's ass on the head and no (to take it in advance), I am not jealous of your "luck".
Apart from it I made nevertheless no defaults *cough*prejudice? *cough* but only suggestions given there transparency is so important to you nevertheless.
Numbers don't lie - so we'd rather throw transparency overboard - in the interest of the viewers, of course.
So, and which Erkenntiss remains now from a transparent streamer who did not want to be prejudged and is open to questions and criticism? As I said - here every reader may form his own opinion...
Now you will no longer express - remains only one thing to say: Next please!
Achnee, that gives still what: @simkarte76
Would it not have been your "job" to use this discussion for your initiative ?
since you seem to know me, feel free to tell me your name on Twitch. I generally think little of this justification babble. As you have already aptly stated, you can prove nothing anyway. But since you asked me so sweetly, here's my opinion:
Briefly to me:
I for one stream on Twitch on the side and have a real job (greetings from the office). I started without any Affiliate links in the beginning and got aware of this business through hints from several viewers. I now have some links under my stream, but I don't actively promote them (an automated chat message with a link comes every 15 minutes). Otherwise, my stream is rather less a 24/7 advertising show. If I'm lucky (which happens very rarely), I get 100€ in a month as affiliate income. The money then flows back into the casinos. But that was also the background for the affiliate links. So to speak a partial financing for the streams, because in the casinos themselves there is hardly anything to get. I myself have never considered it important to have to prove anything to anyone. So I would never make any payment history or the like public, just because some stranger from the Internet does not believe me. However, I think that if the credibility of your stream is important for getting your "salary" at the end of the month, you have a lot more pressure. As the saying goes, hit dogs bark
About "the" new business on Twitch:
What's been happening in the casino space on Twitch over the past few months is just sickening. On each channel, there are now entire teams that divide up the streaming times or just represent the model of purchased streamers already mentioned here in the article, so that the whole thing is also 200% profitable. Someone who plays for fun in the casino and shares this with others, does not need employees or anything else. It's 95% of the streams only about the big money. And so they sit in front of the camera with their viewerbots, bought hosts, bought followers and employees and turn on 5€ or more. There will probably also be people who like to watch something like that, I will probably never understand. But as they say, tastes are different. I for one have already considered several times to stop streaming because of this scene
Casino Affiliate:
I myself am a small Streamer, started back then on YouTube and then moved on to Twitch. I now have about 1,250 followers and 20-30 viewers on average. Even with this relatively small reach, I can tell you that I was offered "Fakemoney" several times. I have the cooperation with these casinos then either not even started or immediately terminated (anyone who knows something, knows which casinos it could be so). There are of course reputable partners, but of course I can only say from my perspective. The bigger a stream and the more wins it brings, the greater the Risk of being offered dubious things. In the 2 years I have affiliate links under my stream, there were really many awesome and f**ked up things I could tell you about. But it doesn't have to be all out in the open. Ultimately, everyone with some sense in the head, many things can explain themselves.
Regulation and morality:
For many areas of streaming and the internet in general, a safe and mandatory age check wouldn't be a bad idea. I am absolutely not a fan of getting minors interested in gambling. Furthermore, gambling should not be trivialized or glorified either. Unfortunately, that often happens. For sure, there are ways to make streams accessible to an adult audience only. But maybe there's just too much money involved. From the moral point of view, any advertising for areas that can very quickly trigger an addiction is probably dangerous. For a gambling addict, just watching a casino stream can certainly trigger an impulse to become active again. However, I also think that an adult person has to deal with such things on their own. All those from this forum who condemn casino streamers with affiliate links across the board should be aware of what platform they are moving on here
Again specifically to your criticism @Latino:
1. With a 100-300 times win of his bet it's already ok to applaud ;D
2. To criticize the used language, I find a bit silly. I guess this just depends on taste
3. To condemn the creation of clips in general, I also do not find ok. A reminder in the form of a small video is nice.
4. I for my part play mostly on 0,40€ - 1,00€-fold, but find it absolutely ok if you thank for a sub or a donation, no matter how much
In all other points, however, I can agree with you 100% and find your post even at the 3rd time read still very funny
Final Word:
No one is forced to watch anything they don't like. Enlightenment to operate is ok, but the YouTube channel presented here should delete itself in my opinion urgently or simply before the videos a very little research. Gambling is fun, but dangerous. The current glorification can only make you worry and I am curious what awaits us in the future. I read for years here in the forum and would like to thank you at this point times for the many great and entertaining contributions (I could often laugh well). In this sense, do not overdo it and stay clean
since you seem to know me, feel free to tell me your name on Twitch. I generally don't think much of this justification babble. As you have already aptly stated, you can prove nothing anyway. But since you asked me so sweetly, here's my opinion
I must confess that I don't really know you, but I have a good memory. Of course I can't stalk every Streamer, but I like to zap through the slot category - didn't you have a bear with disco lighting as a "FaceCam" ? But that's also a good sign, it means that I have seen with you no noticeable features for fake
I for one stream on Twitch on the side and have a real job (greetings from the office). I started without any Affiliate links in the beginning and became aware of this business through tips from several viewers. I now have some links under my stream, but I don't actively promote them (an automated chat message with a link comes every 15 minutes). Otherwise, my stream is rather less a 24/7 advertising show. If I'm lucky (which happens very rarely), I get 100€ in a month as affiliate income. The money then flows back into the casinos. But that was also the background for the affiliate links. So to speak a partial financing for the streams, because in the casinos themselves there is hardly anything to get. I myself have never considered it important to have to prove anything to anyone. So I would never make any payment history or the like public, just because some stranger from the Internet does not believe me. However, I think that if the credibility of your stream is important for getting your "salary" at the end of the month, you have a lot more pressure. As the saying goes, hit dogs bark.
Thank you very much for this little insight.
About "the" new business on Twitch:
What's been happening in the casino space on Twitch over the past few months is just disgusting. On every channel there are now entire teams that divide up the streaming times or just represent the model of purchased streamers already mentioned here in the article, so that the whole thing is also 200% profitable. Someone who plays for fun in the casino and shares this with others, does not need employees or anything else. It's 95% of the streams only about the big money. And so they sit in front of the camera with their viewerbots, bought hosts, bought followers and employees and turn on 5€ or more. There will probably also be people who like to watch something like that, I will probably never understand. But as they say, tastes are different. I for my part have already considered several times to stop streaming because of this scene.
But that's also probably the reason why you only earn a little pocket money - obviously you still have scruples what one can not say of the majority of the industry. Thumbs up for that ! I wouldn't stop if I were you - if it's fun and you make some money, that's great.
Casino-Affiliate:
I'm a small streamer myself, started on YouTube back in the day and then moved on to Twitch. I now have about 1,250 followers and 20-30 viewers on average. Even with this relatively small reach, I can tell you that I was offered "Fakemoney" several times. I have the cooperation with these casinos then either not even started or immediately terminated (anyone who knows something, knows which casinos it could be so). There are of course reputable partners, but of course I can only say from my perspective. The bigger a stream and the more wins it brings, the greater the Risk of being offered dubious things. In the 2 years that I now have affiliate links under my stream, there were really many awesome and a*******te things I could tell you about. But it doesn't have to be all publicly spread. Ultimately, everyone with a little sense in the head, many things can explain themselves.
What I do not understand here (and now only not related to you) - why no one speaks the names of these casinos? There is no contract / no agreement that could be broken and why should this not be publicly spread? After all, these offer the breeding ground for the fake about which many Slotstreamer so rant.
Regulation and morality:
For many areas of streaming and the internet in general, safe and mandatory age Verification would not be a bad idea. I am absolutely not a fan of getting minors interested in gambling. Furthermore, gambling should not be trivialized or glorified either. Unfortunately, that often happens. For sure, there are ways to make streams accessible to an adult audience only. But maybe there's just too much money involved. From the moral point of view, any advertising for areas that can very quickly trigger an addiction is probably dangerous. For a gambling addict, just watching a casino stream can certainly trigger an impulse to become active again. However, I also think that an adult person has to deal with such things on his own. All those from this forum who condemn casino streamers with affiliate links across the board should be aware of what platform they are moving on here.
Personally, I have nothing at all against affiliates and it is also quite normal outside of Twitch to finance its content through this form of advertising. Also, I agree with you 100% if the age check would be a little stricter instead of just the clickable away notice that the offer is directed only to adults
Again specifically to your criticism @Latino:
1. With a 100-300 times win of his stake it's already ok to applaud. ;D
2. To criticize the used language I find a bit silly. I guess this just depends on taste
3. To condemn the creation of clips in general, I also do not find ok. A reminder in the form of a small video is nice.
4. I for my part play mostly on 0,40€ - 1,00€-fold, but find it absolutely ok if you thank for a sub or a donation, no matter how much
In all other points, however, I can agree with you 100% and find your post even the 3rd time read still very funny.
The last sentence makes me think you understood that this is a parody of this scheme that you see in quite a few slot streams. But parodies are funny because the basis for them is reality. I realize that the "show" around it is also part of the concept, but it is exaggerated in many - to the point of implausibility.
One question out of curiosity :
Did you move to Malta ? This can be read out by skimming the VOD titles. I hope this question is not too personal for you (and does not need to be answered)
I must confess that I don't really know you, but I have a good memory. Of course I can't stalk every Streamer, but I like to zap my way through the slot category - didn't you have a bear with disco lighting as your "FaceCam"? But this is also a good sign, it means that I have not seen any noticeable features for fake
Then you should urgently change that my friend. I always stream irregularly on Twitch, so quite easy to be there
I once had a camera that was aimed at a small pink monkey. This I bought on Mallorca on the beach and at a
"Big Win" this was then pressed and emitted a loud scream and had bright red eyes. However, I have said goodbye to this
Concept. However, the monkey lives on
But that's also probably the reason why you only earn a little pocket money - obviously you still have scruples, which can't be said of the majority of the industry. Thumbs up for that ! I wouldn't stop if I were you - if it's fun and you make some money, that's great.
I find these commercials annoying. I play slots for fun and don't mention every 5 minutes how great this or that casino is. I have as already mentioned links under my stream, who wants to support me there voluntarily does. I'm not trying to actively bring anyone to gamble and find the methods of some streamers (PSC for signups, advertising in the picture, verbal advertising, etc.) just sad
What I do not understand here ( and this now only not related to you) - why no one speaks the names of these casinos ? There is no contract / no agreement that could be broken and why should this not be publicly spread? After all, these offer the breeding ground for the fake about which many Slotstreamer so rant.
I often talk about one or the other streamer in my streams and mention them by name when I get carried away. Here in the forum, however, I do not want to judge anyone or talk bad about any casinos that are advertised here. I hope that is understandable
The last sentence makes me think you understood that this is a parody of this scheme that you see in quite a few slot streams. But parodies are funny because they are based on reality. I realize that the "show" around it is also part of the concept, but it is exaggerated in many - to the point of implausibility.
I already understood that it is a parody. As you say, there is always some truth to a parody. That's why I criticized the four points. The respective show or the respective concept behind the stream or the streamer is just individual. Of course, there are many who completely overdo it and make it ridiculous, but even for that there are viewers
A question out of curiosity :
Did you move to Malta ? This can be read out by skimming the VOD titles. I hope this question is not too personal for you (and does not need to be answered)
I'm open to almost any question, so keep it coming. I did not move to Malta, of course. This streaming title was a
Homage to all my idols who made it to the island of dreams. Apart from the fact that I would like to live on an island, Malta would rather not be my dream location
Maybe we will see each other live in the stream and then we can continue there
Maybe you'll see each other live in the stream and then you're welcome to continue there.
That's not likely to happen - I draw the entertainment value of slotstreamers from the robber pistols
Besides, I discuss exclusively on GambleJoe. I just saw how openly critics are treated in streams - f**ked, banned and then "Raus mit de Viecher" (original sound). And who said it? Yes the Eddy who wanted to explain to us how gladly on critical voices is dealt with. Maybe he was just through the wind by yesterday's 10K cashout
Then they are sometimes talkative - just was the Eddy so good to explain that there are test accounts at SlotV which are probably indistinguishable from real gameplay
However, I'm still puzzling over his cronyism, among other things, that BigDaddy allegedly does not get a good deal but obviously uses the same 100% bonus at CasinoEuro.
Here in the forum, however, I do not want to condemn anyone or talk bad about any casinos that are advertised here.
I meant of course in the stream and I meant not only you, that you do not do this here I can of course understand. But every Streamer could - if he does not cooperate with these casinos - openly call the name.
Therefore, I wish you and your audience a lot of fun and especially good luck at the slots
That's not likely to happen - I draw the entertainment value of slotstreamers from the robber pistols
Besides, I discuss exclusively on GambleJoe. I just saw how openly critics are treated in streams - they're made fun of, banned and then "Raus mit de Viecher" (original sound).
I have never had anyone banned or banned by present mods because of criticism. Slots streams are not entertaining for everyone and even I find only a few slots streams interesting. However, I do try to have one or two exciting conversations with my viewers. Doesn't always work, but sometimes
I meant of course in the stream and I also meant not only you, that you do not do this here I can of course understand. But every Streamer could - if he does not work with these casinos - openly call the name.
I have always spoken openly in my streams about the casinos that have offered me fakemoney or are just shit, due to non-transparent or unfair terms and conditions, for example, only interested in the largely blinded audience of slots streams anyway
Therefore I wish you and your audience a lot of fun and especially good luck at the slots
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I was expecting this reaction and it confirms to me that I could even reveal many more things and you wouldn't believe anything I say. Also, I'm not the one who has to explain a business model to you just because you don't understand it. But yes I know, it would be so exciting to know how much you can earn and how much who gets for what. How much better deals can be depending on reach etc. All super exciting. A Streamer should disclose that too right? The pizza maker should also always indicate the purchase price of his pizza in the card. Don't get mad at me, but some things don't have to be understood by everyone.
Even if I would show it to you live, you could claim that the money is put on Skrill and so on.
In the end, the only way you will be left is to believe something or not. This decision is up to you
You asked for it. I have complied with the request and your opinion is: Could also be all fake. Ah yes, why did you want to see something like that? It does not matter. Do not answer.
For me this is the last post in this adventurous forum. I am not accountable and participated to show how we proceed and how I act. Gladly I wanted to show you my transparency with this, however I think I could never convince people like you of that. I have neither the time nor the leisure to do so. You are welcome to form your own opinion from the things I have presented. In the end, though, I would recommend my stream to you
On the subject of the balance sheet. I had this. For each casino individually, the deposits and withdrawals. After we have been after more than 6 months streaming about 25tsd euros in the plus, I have banned this table from the stream. This gives the not so slot-savvy viewer the impression that you can win in the casino in the long run. Such a list is more than counterproductive at the moment, because many would not understand that with pure raw deposits this result would probably have looked different. Therefore I try to work with verbal hints in my streams. I think every streamer may think about his own concept to deal with it and does not have to comply with your default
I wish you all a lot of fun here and maybe you will see one or the other as a viewer.
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@Latino
No. Why would I equate that with critical inquiry?
You are looking very closely at the subject of "streamers"
That's why I would call you a critic
I don't want to explain it to you and I think you understand how it was meant.
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What do you always do with your font color?
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This time I had put something in a quote but deleted it again. But I had adjusted a color but that was only for the quote. Everything is displayed normally
So why always?
Do I have to worry that you see colors that are not really there. Or do I not see any where they should be!
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Oha, 500 IQ ?
And I thought you are not a fan of "pre-judgement" ? Your post is dripping with such pre-assumptions
I have only asked - you have it with your "transparency initiative" But offered....(Btw: Prejudice?) - just consider the possibility that I understand "business models" better than you assume
Yes well, I have a very precise idea of what slotstreamers earn - for you as a hint what you can still achieve : The income tax of every swede is public There you can see what the heavyweights skim off.
By the way, I never asked about your income and it is completely irrelevant to me (Btw: Prejudice?)
Who preaches to want to be as transparent as possible ?
You have to practice the analogies - the pizza maker would be the casino owner in this comparison - you are just the one who goes out to catch customers to make the pizza (the casino) palatable (no matter how crappy it actually tastes). Also, I don't know of any case where excessive pizza consumption has led to financial disaster (small joke) And no, I'm not angry with you at all and of course not everyone has to understand everything - as I said, we don't want to make stupid people smart. (Btw: Prejudice?)
Of course I answer: I have never asked for Skrillveräufen because you just as "proof" are not good - but you have (unasked) put in here. (Btw: Prejudice?)
You offered to show transparency and now you don't owe any accountability when asked critically? Of course, you are no one owe anything .... fits already. (Btw: Prejudice?) Besides, it's not just about my opinion even if I would not be convinced - it read here also others.
And of course I have watched yesterday at least partly your stream and in relation to your statements on this thread I have only one understood transparency...blablabla...Prejudice.... blablabla - well, is not wrong already times bischen mood against possible criticism to make - but you have expected
Now a point which you have possibly not so completely in the view : My opinion is not in this Thread of importance however other readers should stimulate themselves from the contributions evenly these to form to be able
There you go - such statements are exactly my thing : As we all know and also by Streamern again and again clearly is said the Streams can exist nevertheless only by the permanent bonus because in the long term +/-0 rumkommt and the earnings then from the Affiliate/Twitch incomes comes. Now you are probably one of those who were really lucky - like many of your fellow streamers. Well, some "groups" shines - against the (mathematical) probability - the sun directly from God's ass on the head and no (to take it in advance), I am not jealous of your "luck".
Apart from it I made nevertheless no defaults *cough*prejudice? *cough* but only suggestions given there transparency is so important to you nevertheless.
Numbers don't lie - so we'd rather throw transparency overboard - in the interest of the viewers, of course.
So, and which Erkenntiss remains now from a transparent streamer who did not want to be prejudged and is open to questions and criticism? As I said - here every reader may form his own opinion...
Now you will no longer express - remains only one thing to say: Next please!
Achnee, that gives still what:
@simkarte76
Would it not have been your "job" to use this discussion for your initiative ?
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since you seem to know me, feel free to tell me your name on Twitch. I generally think little of this justification babble. As you have already aptly stated, you can prove nothing anyway. But since you asked me so sweetly, here's my opinion:
Briefly to me:
I for one stream on Twitch on the side and have a real job (greetings from the office). I started without any Affiliate links in the beginning and got aware of this business through hints from several viewers. I now have some links under my stream, but I don't actively promote them (an automated chat message with a link comes every 15 minutes). Otherwise, my stream is rather less a 24/7 advertising show. If I'm lucky (which happens very rarely), I get 100€ in a month as affiliate income. The money then flows back into the casinos. But that was also the background for the affiliate links. So to speak a partial financing for the streams, because in the casinos themselves there is hardly anything to get. I myself have never considered it important to have to prove anything to anyone. So I would never make any payment history or the like public, just because some stranger from the Internet does not believe me. However, I think that if the credibility of your stream is important for getting your "salary" at the end of the month, you have a lot more pressure. As the saying goes, hit dogs bark
About "the" new business on Twitch:
What's been happening in the casino space on Twitch over the past few months is just sickening. On each channel, there are now entire teams that divide up the streaming times or just represent the model of purchased streamers already mentioned here in the article, so that the whole thing is also 200% profitable. Someone who plays for fun in the casino and shares this with others, does not need employees or anything else. It's 95% of the streams only about the big money. And so they sit in front of the camera with their viewerbots, bought hosts, bought followers and employees and turn on 5€ or more. There will probably also be people who like to watch something like that, I will probably never understand. But as they say, tastes are different. I for one have already considered several times to stop streaming because of this scene
Casino Affiliate:
I myself am a small Streamer, started back then on YouTube and then moved on to Twitch. I now have about 1,250 followers and 20-30 viewers on average. Even with this relatively small reach, I can tell you that I was offered "Fakemoney" several times. I have the cooperation with these casinos then either not even started or immediately terminated (anyone who knows something, knows which casinos it could be so). There are of course reputable partners, but of course I can only say from my perspective. The bigger a stream and the more wins it brings, the greater the Risk of being offered dubious things. In the 2 years I have affiliate links under my stream, there were really many awesome and f**ked up things I could tell you about. But it doesn't have to be all out in the open. Ultimately, everyone with some sense in the head, many things can explain themselves.
Regulation and morality:
For many areas of streaming and the internet in general, a safe and mandatory age check wouldn't be a bad idea. I am absolutely not a fan of getting minors interested in gambling. Furthermore, gambling should not be trivialized or glorified either. Unfortunately, that often happens. For sure, there are ways to make streams accessible to an adult audience only. But maybe there's just too much money involved. From the moral point of view, any advertising for areas that can very quickly trigger an addiction is probably dangerous. For a gambling addict, just watching a casino stream can certainly trigger an impulse to become active again. However, I also think that an adult person has to deal with such things on their own. All those from this forum who condemn casino streamers with affiliate links across the board should be aware of what platform they are moving on here
Again specifically to your criticism @Latino:
1. With a 100-300 times win of his bet it's already ok to applaud ;D
2. To criticize the used language, I find a bit silly. I guess this just depends on taste
3. To condemn the creation of clips in general, I also do not find ok. A reminder in the form of a small video is nice.
4. I for my part play mostly on 0,40€ - 1,00€-fold, but find it absolutely ok if you thank for a sub or a donation, no matter how much
In all other points, however, I can agree with you 100% and find your post even at the 3rd time read still very funny
Final Word:
No one is forced to watch anything they don't like. Enlightenment to operate is ok, but the YouTube channel presented here should delete itself in my opinion urgently or simply before the videos a very little research. Gambling is fun, but dangerous. The current glorification can only make you worry and I am curious what awaits us in the future. I read for years here in the forum and would like to thank you at this point times for the many great and entertaining contributions (I could often laugh well). In this sense, do not overdo it and stay clean
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I must confess that I don't really know you, but I have a good memory. Of course I can't stalk every Streamer, but I like to zap through the slot category - didn't you have a bear with disco lighting as a "FaceCam" ? But that's also a good sign, it means that I have seen with you no noticeable features for fake
Thank you very much for this little insight.
But that's also probably the reason why you only earn a little pocket money - obviously you still have scruples what one can not say of the majority of the industry. Thumbs up for that ! I wouldn't stop if I were you - if it's fun and you make some money, that's great.
What I do not understand here (and now only not related to you) - why no one speaks the names of these casinos? There is no contract / no agreement that could be broken and why should this not be publicly spread? After all, these offer the breeding ground for the fake about which many Slotstreamer so rant.
Personally, I have nothing at all against affiliates and it is also quite normal outside of Twitch to finance its content through this form of advertising. Also, I agree with you 100% if the age check would be a little stricter instead of just the clickable away notice that the offer is directed only to adults
The last sentence makes me think you understood that this is a parody of this scheme that you see in quite a few slot streams. But parodies are funny because the basis for them is reality. I realize that the "show" around it is also part of the concept, but it is exaggerated in many - to the point of implausibility.
One question out of curiosity :
Did you move to Malta ? This can be read out by skimming the VOD titles. I hope this question is not too personal for you (and does not need to be answered)
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Then you should urgently change that my friend. I always stream irregularly on Twitch, so quite easy to be there
I once had a camera that was aimed at a small pink monkey. This I bought on Mallorca on the beach and at a
"Big Win" this was then pressed and emitted a loud scream and had bright red eyes. However, I have said goodbye to this
Concept. However, the monkey lives on
I find these commercials annoying. I play slots for fun and don't mention every 5 minutes how great this or that casino is. I have as already mentioned links under my stream, who wants to support me there voluntarily does. I'm not trying to actively bring anyone to gamble and find the methods of some streamers (PSC for signups, advertising in the picture, verbal advertising, etc.) just sad
I often talk about one or the other streamer in my streams and mention them by name when I get carried away. Here in the forum, however, I do not want to judge anyone or talk bad about any casinos that are advertised here. I hope that is understandable
I already understood that it is a parody. As you say, there is always some truth to a parody. That's why I criticized the four points. The respective show or the respective concept behind the stream or the streamer is just individual. Of course, there are many who completely overdo it and make it ridiculous, but even for that there are viewers
I'm open to almost any question, so keep it coming. I did not move to Malta, of course. This streaming title was a
Homage to all my idols who made it to the island of dreams. Apart from the fact that I would like to live on an island, Malta would rather not be my dream location
Maybe we will see each other live in the stream and then we can continue there
Greetings and have a nice week
FloggersLife
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That's not likely to happen - I draw the entertainment value of slotstreamers from the robber pistols
Besides, I discuss exclusively on GambleJoe. I just saw how openly critics are treated in streams - f**ked, banned and then "Raus mit de Viecher" (original sound). And who said it? Yes the Eddy who wanted to explain to us how gladly on critical voices is dealt with. Maybe he was just through the wind by yesterday's 10K cashout
Then they are sometimes talkative - just was the Eddy so good to explain that there are test accounts at SlotV which are probably indistinguishable from real gameplay
However, I'm still puzzling over his cronyism, among other things, that BigDaddy allegedly does not get a good deal but obviously uses the same 100% bonus at CasinoEuro.
I meant of course in the stream and I meant not only you, that you do not do this here I can of course understand. But every Streamer could - if he does not cooperate with these casinos - openly call the name.
Therefore, I wish you and your audience a lot of fun and especially good luck at the slots
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again a last short answer from me.
I have never had anyone banned or banned by present mods because of criticism. Slots streams are not entertaining for everyone and even I find only a few slots streams interesting. However, I do try to have one or two exciting conversations with my viewers. Doesn't always work, but sometimes
I have always spoken openly in my streams about the casinos that have offered me fakemoney or are just shit, due to non-transparent or unfair terms and conditions, for example, only interested in the largely blinded audience of slots streams anyway
Thanks, we almost always have
Greetings
FloggersLife
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