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Conspiracy theories: Casino Streamer Fake money or Real? (Page 4)

Topic created on 23rd Aug. 2020 | Page: 4 of 19 | Answers: 180 | Views: 45,874
Slothot
Amateur
Whenever I hear respectful, in the context of gambling/streams/bonuses/twitch and Affiliate marketing, I have to laugh out loud...

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Latino
Experienced
@simkarte76
Apparently you haven't generated any revenue yet as the quality of your videos is still subterranean. Maybe it's because you pack a 1min(or less) information into a bloated 6min+ video

Even you know the video could have been completely different.

Really ? How then ? From the meager information that the same Affiliate IDs are used, you have not even been able to draw the right conclusion - this suggests that you may have lied in the claim that you were an "insider" who worked at Rizk (So claimed in your first video). Unless you were a janitor there - this would explain the lack of basic knowledge.

I am still of the opinion that this thread only serves to promote your "investigative videos".

@emmaundeddy
First of all welcome to the forum (so much politeness must be )
I will not disclose how individual agreements and deals are in the reply either. That is absolutely immaterial

But that's exactly the point of the "accusation" - according to your answer you don't want to clarify it further, do you ?
But given the same Aff-ID you pay out your "co-streamers" since all income runs over it on your account. Therefore, it would be conclusive for me if you have this z.Bin part-time or similar employed / employed. Similar it makes CasinoDaddy yes - funny that Ogge, Gogge and Co still completely freak out when a 500x+ runs in - they have yet nothing of the money and this behavior is then also for your "Streamer community"

Of course, this raises questions about how they then finance their game session since -lt. streamer- without the affiliate a permanent streaming of slots is not possible or too expensive. In addition, it would be pretty stupid to Risk your own (real?) money without building their own customer base - unless there are provided deposits .

Is by the way conspicuous that many slot streamers as soon as some success has set the half relatives / friends also start a stream - but that's probably just coincidence because the possible alternative would be that these were enlightened how to earn money without financial risk (But that can not be because everything is real money, right?).

As I said, I do not understand a few things. For one: Why do not you just ask, for example, live in the chat?

Is quite simple: In your chat / Discord you are the boss and if necessary deleted, banned, banned and / or pulled through the cocoa and declared stupid - so often seen how "openly" dealt with criticism in streamchats . Counter question: Why do not you discuss here on a neutral playing field ?

Making claims without evidence is always very dangerous.

Oh dear.... You and "your streamers" also claim to be real and authentic without proof. But do not worry, evidence I do not require at this point because this would only be possible with access to the relevant Acconts, chats, etc (so a small audit) and no one will ever do that.But how dangerous is something like that? Am curious about the answer....

Last Tip from my side: If you already illegal from Germany gambling advertises should not discuss the "content theft" of others. Ask Monte or Knossi how the legal situation is.... well, where there is no plaintiff, there is no defendant...

But I will gladly explain how the streamers play.

Can I also - here times roughly described: Simply SlottyVegas Affiliate become and there times inquire for a (put) 1000€ Bullet (among other things confirmed by Shirox) and then ne Bonushunt make - However, I do not know whether the still offer that and übrig ghosts today the message by English Streams that SlottyVegas Slots on own servers routed instead of on those of the Provider - is to date however only a rumor. Maybe you (or someone here in the forum) know more about it ? Are there maybe other casinos that offer this "service" ? But I digress...

So one is through with the Hunt and plays the Bonuses off as follows proceed:
Under 50x : Explain how crappy the slot is and how you feel scammed and consider putting it on a banlist
50-100x : Repeat several times that this is a good bonus
100-300x: Here you can applaud enthusiastically - then point out how great the provider/casino is. Also here it is the highest commandment to mention this not only once - 4-5 times minimum!
300x+ : From here on you can completely freak out regardless of how often you have had wins in this amount - of course don't forget to put both hands to the back of your head or cover your mouth and nose with them. While doing this, keep asking the chat over and over again: "What's happening here?" - Tip: In between, always leave your mouth wide open and look incredulous! Don't worry - you don't have to do this show for the rest of the stream with such a big win, but only until the next bonus. Real joy from a big win doesn't last more than a few minutes...the Show must go on.

Decorate all bonuses with e.g. the following filler words: "Gönn", "Gib doch ...", "Retrigger" - except for Razor Shark - there you have to use "Alge" and "Coins" excessively.
If you want to appear cooler to attract the appropriate clientele, then end each sentence with "bro", "bro" or "digger"

Then always give the cashouts - for this you need a chatcommand! But in no case a real/correct win/loss balance,
If someone asks you just say I'm a little in the minus / plus and done, obs is true does not matter and is also irrelevant - we do not want to make the stupid smart. If someone asks why no win/loss balance is made simply say: No desire, no time, no idea, too complicated (even if the entry in a table would actually only take a few minutes - if at all)

Oh yes and good wins always clipping and spamming nicely in the chat so that the valued audience is also bischen triggered to Deposit - much helps much!

Of course you also have to invest ! So PSCs raffle - but not too high contributions, even if grad you thousands at the slots go crazy.

But most important : Be sure to thank for every SUB or donation ! Even if the amount is gambled away within fractions of a second on the slot - That may be burdensome that you have to thank for smallest contributions because you have the capital cover to gamble almost every day for hours on higher Betsize, but that requires the politeness !

Occasionally, a donation target offers itself to generate additional income - the money for a cheap vacation on the Ballermann can quietly raise the morons in the chat - so in about the amount that you have pulled through from a Betsize of 4 € in a few minutes.

Just apply this scheme to all streams and the success as Germanys Next Top Slot Streamer is pre-programmed

Nevertheless I would be interested in emmaundeddy's "clarification

This is respectful interaction

See Slothots post, respect there is rather not.... is just business and money greed knows no respect

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floggerslife
Latino wrote on 25.09.2020 at 13:37: @simkarte76
Apparently you haven't generated any revenue yet because the quality of your videos is still subterranean. Maybe it's because you pack a 1min(or less) information into a bloated 6min+ video


See Slothots contribution, respect there is rather not.... is just business and greed knows no respect

Latino you describe the situation in the "casino streamer" scene very aptly. Excellent contribution

Greetings

FloggersLife

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wettibernd
Expert
@Latino

If you want to start streaming and need a partner then feel free to contact me. The concept is already there.

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Anonym
Ok I'll join, even if here is really a very tense and also a prejudicial mood prevails.
I also find a lot of what happens on Twitch very bad, but there are also great sites and yes even if money is earned with Affiliate I'm still happy about every sub and a growing community. You can meet me after each stream in Discord, where I am available to viewers to answer questions, give technical help for other streams or maybe just to play a round of Pummelparty or COD with some viewers.

Feel free to stop by if you have any personal questions as well. I certainly don't shy away from conversation. This is not about deleting any stuff either. With reasonable discussion, without malicious insinuations or insults I'm the last one who has a problem with criticism to my person.

However, I've always made it a point to play with real money and to cooperate only with streamers who have exactly the same goal. In the beginning I thought how great it would be to play without Risk, but I've been gambling since I was 19. At the beginning a lot of Poker, at some point slots. I enjoy it and I don't want to give it up. Only in this way can there be good emotions. I have also already seen yesterday live in the stream the video, which in my opinion continues to be very poorly researched and unfortunately has no evidence for the actual core statement

I have clarified the following and I also stand by it:

BigDaddyZockt is a longtime friend of mine who really does not rely on depositing with my money and does not do so.
Why is my link under his stream. As a beginner it is hard to get a decent deal with a casino. Currently by the upcoming regulations partly not even possible. Depends of course on the casino. Thus, you put yourself better to work with a larger Streamer than to do everything directly on solo, as I did it and also had difficult months in the beginning.

Dear Capi is one of our first viewers and actually just wants to support a bit. I don't even have time to support and build up the channel. He has links under it and if he really recruits a player he gets a part of it. The good guy is employed full time as a paramedic and would never have the time to expand the stream large and professional. This is a hobby and if something comes back it is nice.

Zuckerschnute is sponsored by me. Not always but more often. For me the following agreement was very important and so I would do it with every upcoming streamer who gets such a sponsorship. The players are allowed to keep their wins except for the following one or two bullets at the next deposit. This is the only way to have an emotion in case of a win. Admittedly, a loss may not be as painful, but there is no other way to present it. Maybe you have an idea how we could make this even better.

I feel the legal aspect, of course, while the changes to the 15th of October will be exciting. For our part, we have been planning to go to Malta for a long time and have also implemented this.

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Finally, I would also love it if many of these whole SlotV, Frank etc. Fakestreamer are uncovered. It's so easy to see when you see players always with thousands of Euros on SlotV, but they only have cadet status or 2nd rank, which can be out of date after only several deposits. Also a reason why I gave up the cooperation with SlotV/Frank.

I'm not sure if I could read from the text that apparently it is thought that you give streamers fakemoney to avoid the risk and there I generally agree. You can do that. But you can also evaluate the potential of a streamer and believe in people. Then you take a little risk at the beginning and invest an amount X which is recovered after a certain time, if everything goes well. If not, you have made a bad investment. I think such a risk exists in many areas.

I like to show every Deposit and withdrawal in a casino. If I make 3k raw cashbonushunt on Euro or wherever. I will gladly show you the deposit and withdrawal


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Enclosed my Skrill of the last days. Please forgive me for blacking out or taking out some private things. I like to be transparent, but unfortunately I can't make certain things public. That is simply not possible. There you will also find two bullets for streaming. Of course I also use Neteller, although there are much less transactions there, but the overview is similar. I also made a few deposits and withdrawals via Muchbetter.

Well, I hope you can see at least my good will, that I'm willing to create transparency here without harvesting only criticism.

Maybe some streamers will join and make this public. Would be a great thing to show: I have nothing to hide when it comes to deposits and withdrawals.

I'll try to upload the pictures in the next post. I think I'm being a little silly right now.


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Anonym
crystal_machmeth
Experienced
emmaundeddy wrote on 09/25/2020 at 4:21 pm: https://www.bilder-upload.eu/bild-5d211a-1601043765.jpg.html


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unfortunately I do not like your transactions
could you send me 1000 € so I can check if this is really real money?

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Anonym
crystal_machmeth wrote on 09/25/2020 at 7:48 pm
unfortunately i don't like your transactions
could you send me 1000 € so i can check if this is really real money?

I will gladly comply with your request, unfortunately you would have to send me 2000€ in advance to verify the transaction to you. In return you can of course keep the 1000€.

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Anonym
Latino wrote on 25.09.2020 at 13:37: @simkarte76
Apparently you haven't generated any revenue yet because the quality of your videos is still subterranean. Maybe it's because you pack a 1min(or less) information into a bloated 6min+ video


See Slothots contribution, respect there is rather not.... is just business and greed knows no respect

Hello Latino,

i find it really cool how much effort you have made with your contribution. And I agree with you in many points. Nevertheless we have the hope that a stream could run as fair as possible. Of course it's about making money. We are of the opinion that you should rather do without a few viewers and say everything that you can disclose. How much is paid in? From whom is the money? And how much can be paid out?
And that should be openly seen in every stream, as big as the casino advertising. That the stream is heated with words.Ok Thats Business. Doof for those who do not have themselves under control. But then you would have to condemn every other business field. That's just the way it is. But it should be communicated honestly and not that the viewers think the Streamer buy from the casino win Rolex etc.. That is baloney. Therein lies the problem for us. I in person have yesterday with EMMAUNDEDDY - so Eddy 90 minutes on the phone via Discord. As also described in our video, which we took offline, we never doubted that Emmaundeddy play with REAL Money. That was clear to us. This is a matter of opinion. We are of the opinion that if a streamer plays with other people (casinos) their money, it must also be said openly. It may be that it was not clear to the streamers so that the viewers have a right to know. Eddy has said yesterday in the stream live, as you Latino also described above, it would be too expensive at the beginning of the stakes and so many bullets to play, for new streamers. And therefore at least once in a while Bullets are financed. And that with 2 streamers from him. And we believe so.So the topic is done for us.And we also know that EMMAUNDEDDY himself has shown initiative against fake Streamer. The same with Anuro11. The video we have also taken out for the time being because it is in connection with fake money players. And he also plays with real money and it's just about that he has not said at least in the case that he has a max cashout. He has been doing this for a while now.also shows deposits and withdrawals. In the future, we will focus more on streamers who play with fake money or casinos that give the play money.The two named streamers do not. And yes latino, we have not made enough money with our videos to increase the quality. You can see in our video the donation email if you have something left:-) (Just kidding of course) Greetings

P.s. If streamers are financed with Bullets, but can keep a part of the wins and so the reaction to a win is real. Is that also ok for us if it is said. And that is so with the streamers of Emmaundeddy

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Chrizzi
Experienced
simkarte76 wrote on 09/25/2020 at 10:38 pm
Hello Latino,

i think it's really cool how much effort you put into your post. And I also agree with you on many points. Nevertheless we have the hope that a stream could run as fair as possible. Of course it is about making money. We are of the opinion that you should rather do without a few viewers and say everything that you can disclose. How much is paid in? From whom is the money? And how much can be paid out?
And that should be openly seen in every stream, as big as the casino advertising. That the stream is heated with words.Ok Thats Business. Doof for those who do not have themselves under control. But then you would have to condemn every other business field. That's just the way it is. But it should be communicated honestly and not that the viewers think the Streamer buy from the casino win Rolex etc.. That is baloney. Therein lies the problem for us. I in person have yesterday with EMMAUNDEDDY - so Eddy 90 minutes on the phone via Discord. As also described in our video, which we took offline, we never doubted that Emmaundeddy play with Fake Money. That was clear to us. This is a matter of opinion. We are of the opinion that if a streamer plays with other people (casinos) their money, it must also be said openly. It may be that it was not clear to the streamers so that the viewers have a right to know. Eddy has said yesterday in the stream live, as you Latino also described above, it would be too expensive at the beginning of the stakes and so many bullets to play, for new streamers. And therefore at least once in a while Bullets are financed. And that with 2 streamers from him. And we believe so.So the topic is done for us.And we also know that EMMAUNDEDDY himself has shown initiative against fake Streamer. The same with Anuro11. The video we have also taken out for the time being because it is in connection with fake money players. And he also plays with real money and it's just about that he has not said at least in the case that he has a max cashout. He has been doing this for a while now.also shows deposits and withdrawals. In the future, we will focus more on streamers who play with fake money or casinos that give the play money.The two named streamers do not. And yes latino, we have not earned enough money with our videos to hear the quality. You can see in our video the donation email if you have wa sübrig:-) (Just kidding of course) Greetings

Nice message simcard!

Also to EMMAUNDEDDY thanks for the contributions. Often read here from people venting their displeasure with you guys. Maybe one or the other gets a little more insight through it. Doubt that with the Hatern however.
Would not have had to explain yourself in my opinion

@Simkarte Although one of your posts with Merci commented Simkarte, yet I have not seen a video. Was to collect points for the sweepstakes
I'll be honest. Don't usually take these threads in stride. For some this may be helpful you want to inform how this goes down and promo you can do for it too. All cool on my part

You do write that you took another video off though. I have zero experience with streaming and YouTube videos but if you want to build something... please inform yourself.
I mean you don't want someone to make videos about you by listing claims that are not true. Then you will have more success.

Look anyway now times over even if some of the quality not so great find.

All the best and good luck

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