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Conspiracy theories: Casino Streamer Fake money or Real? (Page 8)

Topic created on 23rd Aug. 2020 | Page: 8 of 19 | Answers: 180 | Views: 46,086
Falke
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

7th Jan. 2022, at 10:49 pm CET#71
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Royal777 wrote on 07.01.2022 at 22:48
I am relatively sure that the vast majority plays with real money. Although there are quite videos of, for example, raw stone that let you doubt, but I believe even with him that he played with real money. Where I must clearly say that I hardly follow the English-speaking streamers....

Even if they play with real money, most are just annoying

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Byrrrd
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

8th Jan. 2022, at 11:19 am CET#72
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LuckyNoob wrote on 28.12.2021 at 01:00: Here is a comment under a toilet pig Youtube video. Has vllt nothing to mean and is just as fake as almost everything on the net. Sounds pretty plausible to me though.


Mark L
2 months ago
I work behind the scenes on gambling websites and can confirm we have deals with many of our high value players. I wont speak on Roshstein as that is personal but the deals vary. The balance he is playing with is real. I can confirm that, but he for sure doesnt get to keep all of the balance. When he wagers a certain amount he gets a % of the profit every single day he streams the content. So if you see him lose 5 million in one day, he needs to earn 6million that session to receive 1M profit then get whatever his cut deal % is. If he loses he doesnt actually lose anymoney so in a way he isnt really gamling. He just doesnt profit off his freeroll for that day

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I can definitely imagine this one, even though I couldn't care less if a stream boy/girl plays with real money or not. I look at the slots that I like and the Streamer himself is totally indifferent to me.

What I do think is 100% unreal are the bonus hunts, as no one would do that to themselves competing with their own money. We all know that it can never be that free spins drop every 100 rounds (especially not with the new settings) but the streamers even show us with the Hunts that you need even less rounds. Some time ago I made the effort with Rosh (when he was still playing 5 Euro stakes) and calculated how many rounds he needed on average to get all his FS - it was under 50. If that is supposed to be real, then the earth is really a disc...

What got me thinking a bit is these "reactions" to a win. They don't get any acting lessons, so you can get the idea that there must be something behind a win like 1000000 fake win = 1000 real win. But who knows... ultimately, these are all just theories and nothing else.

Last but not least something to think about: If Rosh or Train would draw millions from an OC, what does that do to the normalos who play there? Their profit distribution is then below zero! The money has to come in again from somewhere. Is it worthwhile to play the advertised OC at all?

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N4FFiT
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

22nd Jan. 2022, at 10:11 am CET#73
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It's just for entertainment, they've amassed their fortune and that's really the goal as an influencer, isn't it?

As little Risk as possible for maximum profit. No one can make in the long run 1500-2000€ or $ spins even multi-millionaires, do not get it done!

Just look at Jeff Bezos who earns 3600$ in a second and he earns it and doesn't gamble it away.

About half of the streamers play with Bonus money and the other half play with subscription and Affiliate money, the streamers are independent businesses, they want to make money without losing much, no more and no less.


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Anonym

Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

22nd Jan. 2022, at 12:32 pm CET#74
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Fake or not. What I wonder: Don't the streamers go crazy at some point, because they play the slots for hours and every day. My head already hums after an hour

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table1
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

1st Feb. 2022, at 10:05 am CET#75
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I think we all agree about Rosh. He only plays with other money and not with his own and earns a part of it for himself
He also directs everyone to Discord, so that you have to log in with his code

But Train remains serious for me and I also believe him that he gambles with his money. His giveaways are 100% real and I took the following screenshots

Here he shows his balance from the slot "Hotel Yeti Way:
Vollbild: https://i.ibb.co/w7Gsf50/2022-01-29-11-28-21.png
table1

Here is a picture, of his entire balance until Jan 26, 2022:
Full screen: https://i.ibb.co/cTwm1M1/IMG-5668.png
table1

You can't fake such balance sheets on Stake. This is his real money or how can you explain it?

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Anonym

Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

1st Feb. 2022, at 10:41 am CET#76
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table1 wrote on 02/01/2022 at 10:05 AM

You can't fake balances like that on Stake. This is his real money or how can you explain this?

Mark balance -> right click -> examine -> edit as you wish -> save

Still I see it like you, most streamers use equity or at least real money.

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frapi07
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

1st Feb. 2022, at 10:46 am CET#77
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table1 wrote on 01.02.2022 at 10:05: I think we all agree on Rosh. He's just playing with other people's money and not his own and earning some of it for himself
After all, he directs everyone to Discord so you have to sign up with his code

But Train remains serious for me and I also believe him that he gambles with his money. His giveaways are 100% real and I took the following screenshots

Here he shows his balance from the slot "Hotel Yeti Way:
Vollbild: https://i.ibb.co/w7Gsf50/2022-01-29-11-28-21.png
frapi07

Here is a picture, of his entire balance until Jan 26, 2022:
Full screen: https://i.ibb.co/cTwm1M1/IMG-5668.png
frapi07

You can't fake such balance sheets on Stake. This is his real money or how can you explain it?

Both or all bigger streamers (rosh, xposed, train and whatever else there is) get the money from the casino and they are allowed to play with it. What they win, of course, they can not keep. I think they get their fixed salary + the commission from the codes (a % of the total losses from the users who used his code). You can't tell me that train at BJ once 1 mil. USD and he just stays ice cold or just plays a 100-200k bj hand like it's peanuts. You have to see it there as entertainment, nothing more. As for the lotteries, I think they do it with their real money, no question. But not those of the casinos.

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Anonym

Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

1st Feb. 2022, at 10:52 am CET#78
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frapi07 wrote on 01.02.2022 at 10:46 am
Both or all bigger streamers (rosh, xposed, train and whatever else there is) get the money from the casino and they are allowed to play with it. Of course they don't get to keep what they win. I think they get their fixed salary + the commission from the codes (a % of the total losses from the users who used his code). You can't tell me that train at BJ once 1 mil. USD and he just stays ice cold or just plays a 100-200k bj hand like it's peanuts. You have to see it there as entertainment, nothing more. As for the lotteries, I think they do it with their real money, no question. But not those of the casinos

What are 1 million euros at its size?

Including all his social networks, he has several million followers. Even if only 10% of the people pay their 200-300€ monthly into the casino, then he still makes a lot of money.

Example:
100.000 (customers) x 200€ = 20,000,000 million in revenue per month. In the long run all customers will lose and he will surely get between 20% - 50% from the losses.

Even if he has only 10,000 customers, we would end up talking about a 7 digit sum

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frapi07
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Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

1st Feb. 2022, at 11:08 am CET#79
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Royal777 wrote on 01.02.2022 at 10:52 am
What's 1 million euros with his size?

Including all his social networks he has several million followers. Even if only 10% of people Deposit their 200-300€ monthly into the casino, he still makes plenty of dough.

Example:
100.000 (customers) x 200€ = 20,000,000 million in revenue per month. In the long run all customers will lose and he will surely get between 20% - 50% from the losses.

Even if he only has 10,000 customers, we would end up talking about a 7 figure sum

His twitch subs alone let him earn a lot of money, but I don't think he gets 50% commission. I think 15-20% is more realistic. Besides, not everyone always loses their 200-300 usd every month. He certainly earns well, but I'll put it this way. Even a billionaire would be hurt by these losses. Money is not infinite, but finitely large.

Besides, the casino gets the amount you calculated, not the Streamer

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Anonym

Casino Streamer Fake money or Real?

1st Feb. 2022, at 11:24 am CET#80
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frapi07 wrote on 01.02.2022 at 11:08 am
Alone his twitch subs surely let him earn a lot of money, but I don't think he gets 50% commission. I think 15-20% is more realistic. Besides, not everyone always loses their 200-300 usd every month. He certainly earns well, but I'll put it this way. Even a billionaire would be hurt by these losses. Money is not infinite, but finitely large.

Currently I am not up to date with the subs income, especially the foreign streamers. Here in Germany the Streamer gets 50% of the subscription, plus taxes. So that leaves 1,50€ in the end. As a Twitch partner you probably get a little more of the 5€ per sub.


Also, the casino gets the amount you calculated, not the streamer.


Nene.
With 20.000.000€ turnover and a profit of for example 18.000.000€ he gets his 20-50%. I tend more towards 40-60%. The Affiliate offers of the casinos are usually visible on the homepage. The bigger the streamer, the better your negotiating position.

Of course, not only average earners count among the customers, many streamers have one or two millionaires as customers.

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