Blubbo33 wrote on 05/24/2023 at 07:48: Sometimes it reads like it's the only casino in the world!
And when you hear some reasons you think the or they are not only addicted to gambling but also platinum addicted!
Either you accept that they don't get it right or maybe even do it on purpose, or you just don't play there anymore! ?
Reflect yourselves but times.
You buy every week at the bakery 6 rolls where half is missing, but you are happy that he packed 1 for free!
Sure the behavior is kind of stupid even from me of course I'm also one of those who always hope they get it but still on the chain but you know yourself how it is when you have a store that pays out quickly you do not want to sign up again in a new and there do everything again
Sure the behavior is kind of stupid even from me of course I'm one of those who always hope they get it but still on the chain but you know yourself how it is when you have a store that pays out quickly you do not want to sign up again in a new and there do everything again
Since I give you right, but then I may not complain or upset when they have charred me for 50 times!?
Platin has now made it today gabs the first 100% bonus up to 200 € with Max Cashout 2,500 € I think with it is 100% clear the offers are worse because there has never been something like this before
I had to convert for about 60 € around the 3,500 times imagine someone has deposited 200 € he may beautifully convert several 10,000 for 2,500 € would not be so unbelievably bottomless it would be almost funny again
gamble1 wrote on 27.05.2023 at 03:23 clock: Platin has now made it today gabs the first 100% bonus up to 200 € with Max Cashout 2,500 € I think that is 100% clear the offers are worse because so far there was never before
I had to convert for about 60 € around the 3,500 times imagine someone has 200 € deposited he may beautifully convert several 10,000 for 2,500 € would not be so unbelievably bottomless it would be almost funny again
A Deposit bonus with a max cashout is no longer brazen, but criminal.
Almost every bonus with turnover requirements is mathematically to the player's disadvantage, which is why I can't understand why anyone would take such a thing anyway. But with Max Cashout.
I really hope by now that they have to shut down completely all together (Curacao and MGA) in DE and AT. Player protection is a bad joke there. In the same time in which you lock yourself at a casino, five new casinos are already opening again. It is impossible for someone with problematic gambling behavior to lock themselves out. They are making a buck off the misery of others, and they are doing it officially illegally. And then there are people here who seriously think that it is morally reprehensible to ask for your money back (I'm not talking about you).
A Deposit bonus with a max cashout is already no longer brazen, but criminal.
Almost every bonus with turnover requirements is mathematically to the player's disadvantage, which is why I can't understand why they take something like that anyway. But with Max Cashout.
I really hope by now that they have to shut down completely all together (Curacao and MGA) in DE and AT. Player protection is a bad joke there. In the same time in which you lock yourself at a casino, five new casinos are already opening again. It is impossible for someone with problematic gambling behavior to lock themselves out. They are making a buck off the misery of others, and they are doing it officially illegally. And then there are still serious people here who think it is morally reprehensible to ask for your money back (don't mean you with that).
just because a few do not have themselves under control throw all in the same Pot?
even though you lose most of the time online it still goes better than in any spilo or spilebank
i still like to play, i lose most of the time. but i do it with care like probably most people do, that's why i don't plan to stop because it's been a hobby of mine for years too
with alcohol it is not so most do it with thoughtful drinklen now and then what, but then there are the others who are drunk every 2 day, no matter whether they have to drive the car or go to work, the endanger not only themselves with their drinking, no these endanger even others when the 2 promille in the car to get
strangely enough i don't know a single gambling addict from my environment, not even someone who goes to a gambling hall, but i know minds. 6-8 heavy alcoholics who play down what they do is not frowned upon by society, and the next day still bragging that they had 15 bottles of beer and 2 bottles of jägermeister and still drove the car ect... you have to imagine!?
like the "online gambling" you can say what you want it runs but on average online better than offline
in what you then pay for a casino you have to know yourself, Platin was once my favorite but since the latest with the max.cashout can forget the load...
currently I can recommend; Lucky Dreamy, BitDreams and Stake where probably Stake is the best, if you levelt there you get so often Reeload money ect. everything without maxcashout or attached to any conditions payouts without Verification within minutes ect
e.g. there is nothing more stupid than to deposit 1000€ at platinum just so you have platinum status and get Cashback of 20€ or so and max. payout then 100-200€
if you would do that at stake e.g. deposit 250€ weekly even if it doesn't go well you will get 20-40€ back with reeback and weekly raffle
if it runs then times and you make a lot of turnover with your deposit is of course the reeback and the lottery even higher
i had once with a 50 € deposit in a week 250 € back because I have simply made a lot with the 50 € deposit turnover
still to the info everything turnover-free no max.cashout, no max stake
and there I ask myself then really @gamble1 vorllem you why not take the money you deposit in platinum and instead of paying in stake?
just because a few do not have themselves under control throw all into one Pot?
although you lose most of the time online it still runs better than in any spilo or spilebank
i still like to play, i lose most of the time. but i do it with care like probably most people do, that's why i don't plan to stop because it's been a hobby of mine for years too
with alcohol it is not so most do it with thoughtful drinklen now and then what, but then there are the others who are drunk every 2 day, no matter whether they have to drive the car or go to work, the endanger not only themselves with their drinking, no these endanger even others when the 2 promille in the car to get
strangely enough i don't know a single gambling addict from my environment, not even someone who goes to a gambling hall, but i know minds. 6-8 heavy alcoholics who play down what they do is not frowned upon by society, and the next day still bragging that they had 15 bottles of beer and 2 bottles of jägermeister and still drove the car ect... you have to imagine!?
like the "online gambling" you can say what you want it runs but on average online better than offline
in what you then pay for a casino you have to know yourself, platinum was once my favorite but since the latest with the max.cashout can forget the load...
currently I can recommend; Lucky Dreamy, BitDreams and Stake where probably Stake is the best, if you levelt there you get so often Reeload money ect. all without maxcashout or attached to any conditions payouts without Verification within minutes ect
e.g. there is nothing more stupid than to Deposit 1000€ at platinum just so you have platinum status and get Cashback of 20€ or so and max. payout then 100-200€
if you would do that at stake e.g. deposit 250€ weekly even if it doesn't go well you will get 20-40€ back with reeback and weekly raffle
if it runs then times and you make a lot of turnover with your deposit is of course the reeback and the lottery even higher
i had once with a 50 € deposit in a week 250 € back because I have simply made a lot with the 50 € deposit turnover
still to the info everything turnover-free no max.cashout, no max stake
and there I ask myself then really @gamble1 vorllem you why not take the money you deposit in platinum and instead of paying in stake?
Yes, but my point was not about the people who have everything under control, but about the fact that there is no player protection.
Curacao booths even go so far that you would have to lock yourself in every single casino of a group. If a casino group consists of 100 casinos, then it is not enough to lock yourself in one of them because of Gambling addiction, but you would have to lock yourself in every single one of the 100 casinos. Have to imagine, so the company knows about the gambling addiction, but then just forwards to the same crap, which is just a different name.
And the comparison with alcohol is also lame. You can of course discuss if and what etc. But at least alcohol is legal by law. All the casinos are not and the legal casinos you can expose with a push of a button ALL and let you lock.
You can't legitimize many addicts on one side with many addicts on the other.
For those who are in control and see gaming as a hobby - Go for it. These players would then also not let themselves be blocked and thus everything is good. But for those who have a problem with it, there should be an easy way to get blocked. What prevents the MGA from creating a uniform blocking system, which then excludes casinos for all MGA? The same goes for Curacao, where at least the Netherlands would have a big influence on it if they wanted to.
With alcohol, the situation probably looks a lot more complicated. With Online Casinos, everything could be done at the push of a button, but that's just not what's wanted. The big money comes from the people who don't have themselves under control and who therefore pour in huge amounts of money. And that's why my statement is completely correct, that the casinos are deliberately making a buck off the suffering of others.
Blubbo33 wrote on 05/27/2023 at 08:09: This thread will never end .
Stop blaming ONLY the casinos for this !
Of course there are junk casinos but Zocker has mentioned alternatives !
Should gamble have a high-grade gambling problem he knows the possibilities to defend himself against it !
Or he has the possibility to be locked in 1 min at Platin!
He creates it but also alone across the street at red or green .
And as he and what he writes, I trust him absolutely to reflect what he does!
My pity keeps sIch within limits.
He knows that Platin only makes messes and he continues, so who does not want to hear must feel!
Was here at the point rather meant as info I have not read the mail only seen 100% bonus and I thought you can trust the fun because there has never been a cashout on a 100% that is now over and therefore I wanted to warn all those it vill similar to take this bonus
Was here at the point rather intended as info I have not read the mail only seen 100% bonus and I thought you can trust the fun because there has never been a cashout on a 100% that is now over and therefore I wanted to warn all those it vill similar to take this bonus
So I have also understood. Have not meant you in my post, if that has come across so.
Yes, but my point was not about the people who have everything under control, but about the fact that there is no player protection.
Curacao booths go there even so far that you would have to lock in every single casino of a group. If a casino group consists of 100 casinos, then it is not enough to lock yourself in one of them because of Gambling addiction, but you would have to lock yourself in every single one of the 100 casinos. Have to imagine, so the company knows about the gambling addiction, but then just forwards to the same crap, which is just a different name.
And the comparison with alcohol is also lame. You can of course discuss if and what etc. But at least alcohol is legal by law. All the casinos are not and the legal casinos you can expose with a push of a button ALL and let you lock.
You can't legitimize many addicts on one side with many addicts on the other.
For those who are in control and see gaming as a hobby - Go for it. These players would then also not let themselves be blocked and thus everything is good. But for those who have a problem with it, there should be an easy way to get blocked. What prevents the MGA from creating a uniform blocking system, which then excludes casinos for all MGA? The same goes for Curacao, where at least the Netherlands would have a big influence on it if they wanted to.
With alcohol, the situation probably looks a lot more complicated. With Online Casinos, everything could be done at the push of a button, but that's just not what's wanted. The big money comes from the people who don't have themselves under control and who therefore pour in huge amounts of money. And therefore my statement is completely correct, that the casinos quite consciously earn a golden nose at the suffering of others.
what are you babbling it is exactly the same
what does this have to do with the fact that alcohol is legal in dubei eg not so (for certain people)
so for what reason could not be declared illegal here?
same example you order drugs from the darknet.... so and now? you can also not issue is also illegal, but there are those who do it anyway out of addiction
so the things you can not turn off just as little the curacaca casino ect. what if they are blocked in D, what does the "German Hans" he gets VPN and still continues to play
from your point of view you would have to lock all casinos forever, because only THEN!!!! you can say with certainty that you can no longer gamble ....
otherwise the "german hans" will always find a way to pursue his addiction / disease...
and nothing against you but crying around all the casinos are illegal then go to the office with your lawyer and sue the but if it bothers you...
or submit here at gamblejoe already your first complaint, gemablejoe allows users to report casinos, eg as I did in the above post, maybe I have with this post again 10 new people to sign up there where the previously did not know the names at all
so you can with your complaint right here to the team and they should no longer advertise for illegal casinos, would be a start from your point of view or not?
what are you babbling about it is exactly the same
what does that have to do with the fact that alcohol is legal in dubei eg not so (for certain people)
so for what reason could not be declared illegal here?
same example you order drugs from the darknet.... so and now? you can also not issue is also illegal, but there are those who do it anyway out of addiction
so the things you can not turn off just as little the curacaca casino ect. what if they are blocked in D, what does the "German Hans" he gets VPN and still continues to play
from your point of view you would have to lock all casinos forever, because only THEN!!!! you can say with certainty that you can no longer gamble ....
otherwise the "german hans" will always find a way to pursue his addiction / disease...
and nothing against you but crying around all the casinos are illegal then go to the office with your lawyer and sue the but if it bothers you...
or submit here at gamblejoe already your first complaint, gemablejoe allows users to report casinos, eg as I did in the above post, maybe I have with this post again 10 new people to sign up there where the previously did not know the names at all
so you can with your complaint right here to the team and they should no longer advertise for illegal casinos, would be a start from your point of view or not?
It's really tedious when you can't understand arguments and also see this as a personal attack on you instead of a normal discussion.
With a spear file, directly from the respective authority, you can use as much VPN as you want, but it still doesn't work. And I won't even go into the alcohol argument, because it's such a typical diversionary argument. Yes, in Bavaria there are many people at Risk of poverty, but it doesn't matter, because in Berlin there are many junkies, so we don't get upset about Bavaria anymore. The same is your argument, simply to distract and to steer the discussion in a completely different direction.
So again, this is about casinos and about a non-existent Player protection and that the casinos are illegal. You can like that or not, but it is a fact. This is not about alcoholics and how many people you know who like to drink themselves into a stupor.
Falke wrote on 27.05.2023 at 14:35:
It's really tedious when you can't understand arguments and also see this as a personal attack on you instead of a normal discussion.
With a spear file, directly from the respective authority, can use as much VPN as you want, still doesn't work then. And I won't even go into the alcohol argument, because it's such a typical diversionary argument. Yes, in Bavaria there are many people at Risk of poverty, but it doesn't matter, because in Berlin there are many junkies, so we don't get upset about Bavaria anymore. The same is your argument, simply to distract and to steer the discussion in a completely different direction.
So again, this is about casinos and about a non-existent Player protection and that the casinos are illegal. You can like that or not, but it is a fact. So this is not about alcoholics and how many people you know who like to get drunk to the point of insanity.
But the implementation of the OASIS lock also took some time and has its shortcomings. How should a worldwide database be implemented?
Until recently, you could go into any gambling house and play machines without being checked. The same problem exists in the catering industry. How can you comply with player protection without any effort? You can't. Actually, all restaurateurs should be able to make an inquiry (as is now the case in every gaming hall).
I think it's good to think about this and come up with preventive measures regarding player protection, but you can see from the OASIS database that it's not easy, because in Curacao you simply have nothing to say as a German authority and if the Curacao bars don't want a database, then that's just the way it is.
But the implementation of the OASIS lock took some time and has its shortcomings. How should a worldwide database be implemented?
Until recently, you could go into any gambling house and play machines without being checked. The same problem exists in the catering industry. How can you comply with Player protection without any effort? You can't. Actually, all restaurateurs should be able to make an inquiry (as is now the case in every gambling hall).
I think it's good to think about this and come up with preventive measures regarding player protection, but you can see from the OASIS database that it's not easy, because in Curacao you simply have nothing to say as a German authority and if the Curacao bars don't want a database, then that's just the way it is.
So the implementation would be totally easy, even much easier than the OASIS block, because there are just no gastronomy vending machines from the MGA.
Just go to the MGA site, enter all your data there and sign up for the spear file. Each casino then has to match new players with the MGA's data pool and you can't sign up at any MGA casino anymore. Same for Curacao and the problem would be solved. The government could exert pressure on both countries if it wanted to.
It also works with the state casinos.
This would allow a player to exclude himself from all Online Casinos in one fell swoop. If player protection were really worth something to them, they would do the same. However, this would quickly eliminate the largest revenues for them. With Curacao casinos, it is even so that the authority explicitly allows a casino to block only the player in the casino, but not for the entire group.
There are about felt 5,000 Curacao casinos belonging to maybe just 30 companies. To block yourself from all of them is considered impossible.
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And when you hear some reasons you think the or they are not only addicted to gambling but also platinum addicted!
Either you accept that they don't get it right or maybe even do it on purpose, or you just don't play there anymore! ?
Reflect yourselves but times.
You buy every week at the bakery 6 rolls where half is missing, but you are happy that he packed 1 for free!
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Sure the behavior is kind of stupid even from me of course I'm also one of those who always hope they get it but still on the chain but you know yourself how it is when you have a store that pays out quickly you do not want to sign up again in a new and there do everything again
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Since I give you right, but then I may not complain or upset when they have charred me for 50 times!?
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Yes true but then you're still frustrated and writes it here for the 1000 times pure
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I had to convert for about 60 € around the 3,500 times imagine someone has deposited 200 € he may beautifully convert several 10,000 for 2,500 € would not be so unbelievably bottomless it would be almost funny again
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A Deposit bonus with a max cashout is no longer brazen, but criminal.
Almost every bonus with turnover requirements is mathematically to the player's disadvantage, which is why I can't understand why anyone would take such a thing anyway. But with Max Cashout.
I really hope by now that they have to shut down completely all together (Curacao and MGA) in DE and AT. Player protection is a bad joke there. In the same time in which you lock yourself at a casino, five new casinos are already opening again. It is impossible for someone with problematic gambling behavior to lock themselves out. They are making a buck off the misery of others, and they are doing it officially illegally. And then there are people here who seriously think that it is morally reprehensible to ask for your money back (I'm not talking about you).
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just because a few do not have themselves under control throw all in the same Pot?
even though you lose most of the time online it still goes better than in any spilo or spilebank
i still like to play, i lose most of the time. but i do it with care like probably most people do, that's why i don't plan to stop because it's been a hobby of mine for years too
with alcohol it is not so most do it with thoughtful drinklen now and then what, but then there are the others who are drunk every 2 day, no matter whether they have to drive the car or go to work, the endanger not only themselves with their drinking, no these endanger even others when the 2 promille in the car to get
strangely enough i don't know a single gambling addict from my environment, not even someone who goes to a gambling hall, but i know minds. 6-8 heavy alcoholics who play down what they do is not frowned upon by society, and the next day still bragging that they had 15 bottles of beer and 2 bottles of jägermeister and still drove the car ect... you have to imagine!?
like the "online gambling" you can say what you want it runs but on average online better than offline
in what you then pay for a casino you have to know yourself, Platin was once my favorite but since the latest with the max.cashout can forget the load...
currently I can recommend; Lucky Dreamy, BitDreams and Stake where probably Stake is the best, if you levelt there you get so often Reeload money ect. everything without maxcashout or attached to any conditions payouts without Verification within minutes ect
e.g. there is nothing more stupid than to deposit 1000€ at platinum just so you have platinum status and get Cashback of 20€ or so and max. payout then 100-200€
if you would do that at stake e.g. deposit 250€ weekly even if it doesn't go well you will get 20-40€ back with reeback and weekly raffle
if it runs then times and you make a lot of turnover with your deposit is of course the reeback and the lottery even higher
i had once with a 50 € deposit in a week 250 € back because I have simply made a lot with the 50 € deposit turnover
still to the info everything turnover-free no max.cashout, no max stake
and there I ask myself then really @gamble1 vorllem you why not take the money you deposit in platinum and instead of paying in stake?
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Stop it finally ONLY the casinos to make responsible for it!
Of course there are junk casinos, but Zocker has called alternatives!
Should gamble have a high-grade gambling problem he knows the possibilities to defend himself against it !
Or he has the possibility to be locked in 1 min at Platin!
He creates it but also alone across the street at red or green .
And as he and what he writes, I trust him absolutely to reflect what he does!
My pity keeps sIch within limits.
He knows that Platin only makes messes and he continues, so who does not want to hear must feel!
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Yes, but my point was not about the people who have everything under control, but about the fact that there is no player protection.
Curacao booths even go so far that you would have to lock yourself in every single casino of a group. If a casino group consists of 100 casinos, then it is not enough to lock yourself in one of them because of Gambling addiction, but you would have to lock yourself in every single one of the 100 casinos. Have to imagine, so the company knows about the gambling addiction, but then just forwards to the same crap, which is just a different name.
And the comparison with alcohol is also lame. You can of course discuss if and what etc. But at least alcohol is legal by law. All the casinos are not and the legal casinos you can expose with a push of a button ALL and let you lock.
You can't legitimize many addicts on one side with many addicts on the other.
For those who are in control and see gaming as a hobby - Go for it. These players would then also not let themselves be blocked and thus everything is good. But for those who have a problem with it, there should be an easy way to get blocked. What prevents the MGA from creating a uniform blocking system, which then excludes casinos for all MGA? The same goes for Curacao, where at least the Netherlands would have a big influence on it if they wanted to.
With alcohol, the situation probably looks a lot more complicated. With Online Casinos, everything could be done at the push of a button, but that's just not what's wanted. The big money comes from the people who don't have themselves under control and who therefore pour in huge amounts of money. And that's why my statement is completely correct, that the casinos are deliberately making a buck off the suffering of others.
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Was here at the point rather meant as info I have not read the mail only seen 100% bonus and I thought you can trust the fun because there has never been a cashout on a 100% that is now over and therefore I wanted to warn all those it vill similar to take this bonus
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So I have also understood. Have not meant you in my post, if that has come across so.
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what are you babbling it is exactly the same
what does this have to do with the fact that alcohol is legal in dubei eg not so (for certain people)
so for what reason could not be declared illegal here?
same example you order drugs from the darknet.... so and now? you can also not issue is also illegal, but there are those who do it anyway out of addiction
so the things you can not turn off just as little the curacaca casino ect. what if they are blocked in D, what does the "German Hans" he gets VPN and still continues to play
from your point of view you would have to lock all casinos forever, because only THEN!!!! you can say with certainty that you can no longer gamble ....
otherwise the "german hans" will always find a way to pursue his addiction / disease...
and nothing against you but crying around all the casinos are illegal then go to the office with your lawyer and sue the but if it bothers you...
or submit here at gamblejoe already your first complaint, gemablejoe allows users to report casinos, eg as I did in the above post, maybe I have with this post again 10 new people to sign up there where the previously did not know the names at all
so you can with your complaint right here to the team and they should no longer advertise for illegal casinos, would be a start from your point of view or not?
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It's really tedious when you can't understand arguments and also see this as a personal attack on you instead of a normal discussion.
With a spear file, directly from the respective authority, you can use as much VPN as you want, but it still doesn't work. And I won't even go into the alcohol argument, because it's such a typical diversionary argument. Yes, in Bavaria there are many people at Risk of poverty, but it doesn't matter, because in Berlin there are many junkies, so we don't get upset about Bavaria anymore. The same is your argument, simply to distract and to steer the discussion in a completely different direction.
So again, this is about casinos and about a non-existent Player protection and that the casinos are illegal. You can like that or not, but it is a fact. This is not about alcoholics and how many people you know who like to drink themselves into a stupor.
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But the implementation of the OASIS lock also took some time and has its shortcomings. How should a worldwide database be implemented?
Until recently, you could go into any gambling house and play machines without being checked. The same problem exists in the catering industry. How can you comply with player protection without any effort? You can't. Actually, all restaurateurs should be able to make an inquiry (as is now the case in every gaming hall).
I think it's good to think about this and come up with preventive measures regarding player protection, but you can see from the OASIS database that it's not easy, because in Curacao you simply have nothing to say as a German authority and if the Curacao bars don't want a database, then that's just the way it is.
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So the implementation would be totally easy, even much easier than the OASIS block, because there are just no gastronomy vending machines from the MGA.
Just go to the MGA site, enter all your data there and sign up for the spear file. Each casino then has to match new players with the MGA's data pool and you can't sign up at any MGA casino anymore. Same for Curacao and the problem would be solved. The government could exert pressure on both countries if it wanted to.
It also works with the state casinos.
This would allow a player to exclude himself from all Online Casinos in one fell swoop. If player protection were really worth something to them, they would do the same. However, this would quickly eliminate the largest revenues for them. With Curacao casinos, it is even so that the authority explicitly allows a casino to block only the player in the casino, but not for the entire group.
There are about felt 5,000 Curacao casinos belonging to maybe just 30 companies. To block yourself from all of them is considered impossible.
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