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Online Casinos in general: A lot of money gambled away, chargeback possible? (Page 6)

Topic created on 04th Jan. 2019 | Page: 6 of 39 | Answers: 388 | Views: 98,379
SunSun13
Amateur
I would have no moral qualms about charging my money back. For companies like PayPal it is peanuts and these companies have huge legal departments and know that online gambling is illegal in Germany. You also don't need a Paypal account to live - because that will be blocked ... but you definitely don't have to fear more after the chargeback.

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S****r
Servus,
I think you have to stand up for your things as an adult or how would you find it if your boss takes back the last 12 salaries to reorganize the company?

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Sunnyundflo
Top Member
screwdriver wrote on 10/01/2019 at 00:52: Servus,
I think you have to stand up for your stuff as an adult or how would you find it if your boss takes back the last 12 salaries to reorganize the company ?

there seems to be still normal people here

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
screwdriver wrote on 10/01/2019 at 00:52: Servus,
I think you have to stand up for your stuff as an adult or how would you find it if your boss takes back the last 12 salaries to reorganize the company ?

Your example lags a bit behind @Screwdriver.

In contrast to a normal salary which you are entitled to, the participation in payments in connection with illegal gambling is prohibited in Germany according to § 4 Abs. 1 Satz 2 GlüStV.
banks savings banks or other payment service providers are of course fully aware of this, but do not give a damn
Finally, the benefit to these illegal money transactions is still greater than the damage! (chargebacks)

My conclusion

not the players have to grow up, but the banks -and
because of their serious misconduct, these chargebacks are possible in the first place!

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Anonym
Ichbins2018 wrote on 01/10/2019 at 12:03 PM
Your example lags a bit there @screwdriver.

In contrast to a normal salary to which you are regularly entitled, the involvement in payments in connection with unauthorized gambling is prohibited in Germany according to § 4 para. 1 sentence 2 GlüStV.
Banks Savings banks or other payment service providers are of course fully aware of this, but do not give a damn
Finally, the benefit to these illegal money transactions is still greater than the damage! (chargebacks)

My conclusion

not the players have to grow up, but the banks -and
because of their serious misconduct, these chargebacks are possible in the first place!

So all players who play online are liable to prosecution. So the player must also grow up and stop playing illegally

So at least, if you do not look for the blame in others.

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Stromberg
Legend
Zockertyp89 wrote on 10/01/2019 at 12:53 PM
So all gamers make themselves punishable who play online. So gamers must also grow up and stop playing illegally

So at least, if you do not look for the blame on others.

That's how it looks! To invoke the illegality, although one has initiated / commissioned the action...that is also no argument.

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
@PlayerType89 / Stromberg

in the first instance, the payment service providers are/make themselves guilty, precisely because they know very well that bookings regarding online gambling are not allowed.
Most online gamblers are not aware of this at all (illegal gambling) just fall into their very well set traps.

Let the just because of the illegality also times to account are pulled and for you(you the only possibility,
actually win something - well at best your own gambled money


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Anonym
Ichbins2018 wrote on 10/01/2019 at 13:49: @Zockertyp89 / Stromberg

in the first instance, the payment service providers are/are guilty, precisely because they know very well that bookings regarding online gambling are not allowed.
Most online gamblers are not aware of this (illegal gambling) and fall into their very well set traps.

Let them just because of the illegality also be held accountable and for you / you the only way,
actually win something - well at best your own gambled money


Ignorance does not protect from punishment. I have to inform myself beforehand. Of course I understand your point, but I still think the player is to blame.

Just because someone enables something, I don't have to do it. I can't buy drugs and then say: "Oops, I didn't know that was illegal. Please lock up the dealer. He's more to blame."

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Ichbins2018
Top Member
I understand your point of view @Player guy (very well even) but without fence no stealers

Edit: and what concerns me personally you can liberalize the whole online stuff for all I care, at least then this chargeback spook has an end

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Strolch
Rookie
Because of gossip rags like you PayPal has then also withdrawn as a provider. Great, because it was a convenient, secure service and the banks do not howl around.
Fie.

https://www.gamblejoe.com/news/alternativen-zu-paypal-casinos-skrill-und-neteller/

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