OpaOma wrote on 07.01.2019 at 17:26: me is now on facebook always the display of wirholendeingeldzurueck faded in. the fetch for 35% plus mwst.allegedly all losses in Online Casinos of the last 3 years back.
Is not that the page that was advertised by a user here?
Really now .... You learn from stupidity. Now to get your lost money back is more than pathetic.
If you have slipped so in the loss of control you should rather seek other help and worry less about how you get your voluntarily used money back...
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A lot of money gambled away, chargeback possible?
9th Jan. 2019, at 12:18 am CET#36
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So, I'm just going to come out of the closet here about the chargeback.
I believe most of them that they think it's a bad idea, but I'm sure that some of them have already done it or are at least considering it.
And why do I do it? Simple. I'm mostly in control of myself, my budget and that's it
I would never think of taking money back from the credit card, because my credit card limit is actually the maximum budget. Emphasis in the sentence on "limit".
I wouldn't think of doing anything against Trustly, because you can set a limit and every time you make a Deposit you are shown how much is left in your account
I also have no problem with losses via Neteller, because I have to deposit or have credit on it beforehand.
So, and where I now but a problem with is PayPal. For several reasons. If someone says, a player is to blame, then I say in reverse, PayPal is at least equally guilty. I even say that they are trying to make one or the other lose control
First, I have no idea if they have a limit, but I was once denied.
Secondly, after I had asked about the limit and that is not possible, I once a small PayPal payment back. After grumbling, immediately initiated the debit again. And what was? The account was IMMEDIATELY usable again. At least with me. I thought, for the time being, no more debits will be possible. Or only a minimal amount. But no, immediately again full availability
Thirdly, I had myself mostly under control, but like probably many others but also four five times completely exaggerated. Sure, it's my own fault. But it's just so easy, eg at Leovegas. I usually pay between 20 and 60 euros. So, and now I click deposit. Lose. Instant deposit, and again and again and again. I could have bet that it was a maximum of 6-7 deposits. When I looked at the account statement I was sick that it was three times as many. Of course, I set a limit in the casino. But at the same time thought, how can you protect people so little when 20x60 euros are deposited? And that within two hours? There would have to go with such a quantity but every alarm bell. Three deposits, then it should be over.
Also with PayPal payments with me often happened (mostly LeoVegas, but also others), that the message "Payment not successful" came. When it came the first time, I clicked 6 times until it was successful. When I started playing, there were suddenly 300 euros on the account. False message, deposit booked despite error. And what do you do then? Right, play.
And yes, I do not book me everything, but just the things in which I simply find the business model and customer security of PayPal under all sow back and am curious what happens. And the one or other euro will definitely end up in the casino again. And I have meanwhile at the stammcasinos either ne lock or mainly a turnover limit set, before someone says that now. But for me, PayPal is simply a dubious deposit method, which I no longer used in the end anyway, because you lose track.
If someone says it has to do with pride, or comes and thinks betting debts are debts of honor, then I even give right. But when you're dealing with a sensitive topic that threatens the existence of many people, you can expect a certain amount of "protection" from the other side
So, feel free to preach to me how bad or morally reprehensible you think this is. PayPal also behaves morally reprehensible, because it is based on the psychological weakness of the people
As I said, everyone would like to have their money back or a win so that everything is back. And how nice it would be to have everything back in the account. But with every deposit method, where I can protect myself or be protected, I'm guaranteed not to get the idea to do anything. It's my own fault. But if you act as carelessly as a gambler, you shouldn't complain if you take advantage of opportunities to compensate.
Kuschelyoshi wrote on 09/01/2019 at 00:18: So, I'm just going to come out of the closet here about the chargeback.
I believe most of them that they find it under all sow, but I'm sure that some of them have already done it or at least consider it.
And why do I do it? Simple. I'm mostly in control of myself, my budget and that's it
I would never think of taking money back from the credit card, because my credit card limit is actually the maximum budget. Emphasis in the sentence on "limit".
I wouldn't think of doing anything against Trustly, because you can set a limit and every time you make a Deposit you are shown how much is left in your account
I also have no problem with losses via Neteller, because I have to deposit or have credit on it beforehand.
So, and where I now but a problem with is PayPal. For several reasons. If someone says, a player is to blame, then I say in reverse, PayPal is at least equally guilty. I even say that they are trying to make one or the other lose control
First, I have no idea if they have a limit, but I was once denied.
Secondly, after I had asked about the limit and that is not possible, I once a small PayPal payment back. After grumbling, immediately initiated the debit again. And what was? The account was IMMEDIATELY usable again. At least with me. I thought, for the time being, no more debits will be possible. Or only a minimal amount. But no, immediately again full availability
Thirdly, I had myself mostly under control, but like probably many others but also four five times completely exaggerated. Sure, it's my own fault. But it's just so easy, eg at Leovegas. I usually pay between 20 and 60 euros. So, and now I click deposit. Lose. Instant deposit, and again and again and again. I could have bet that it was a maximum of 6-7 deposits. When I looked at the account statement I was sick that it was three times as many. Of course, I set a limit in the casino. But at the same time thought, how can you protect people so little when 20x60 euros are deposited? And that within two hours? There would have to go with such a quantity but every alarm bell. Three deposits, then it should be over.
Also with PayPal payments with me often happened (mostly LeoVegas, but also others), that the message "Payment not successful" came. When it came the first time, I clicked 6 times until it was successful. When I started playing, there were suddenly 300 euros on the account. False message, deposit booked despite error. And what do you do then? Right, play.
And yes, I do not book me everything, but just the things in which I simply find the business model and customer security of PayPal under all sow back and am curious what happens. And the one or other euro will definitely end up in the casino again. And I have meanwhile at the stammcasinos either ne lock or mainly a turnover limit set, before someone says that now. But for me PayPal is simply a dubious deposit method that I no longer used in the end anyway, because you lose track.
If someone says it has to do with pride, or comes and thinks betting debts are debts of honor, then I even give right. But when you're dealing with a sensitive topic that threatens the existence of many people, you can expect a certain amount of "protection" from the other side
So, feel free to preach to me how bad or morally reprehensible you think this is. PayPal also behaves morally reprehensible, because they are targeting the psychological weakness of the people
As I said, everyone would like to have their money back or a win so that everything is back. And how nice it would be to have everything back in the account. But with every deposit method, where I can protect myself or be protected, I'm guaranteed not to do anything. It's my own fault. But if you act as carelessly as a gambler, you shouldn't complain if you take advantage of opportunities to compensate.
Short question about this ?! you always book all Paypal back things but then pay them anyway so that your Paypal account is available again ? How smart is that ?
For me PayPal is good, exactly for the reason because I do not have to book every time money on my Paypal account on it to be able to pay then with it. Through this payment service I do not need to register online banking. Would I use Neteller or Skrill, exactly here must first be money on the accounts to then pay with it. Means with the last two nothing goes, if one has no online banking. Ok I have the gimmick fortunately under control write me every payment onn note and so never experience a nasty surprise when I get my account statements.
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9th Jan. 2019, at 12:54 am CET#39
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Sunnyundflo wrote on 09/01/2019 at 00:30
Quick question about this ?! you always book all PayPal things back but then pay them anyway so your paypal account is available again ? How smart is that ?
No... misunderstood or mispronounced... I had paid either with PayPal or credit card... but after it has ended disastrously for the first time, I wanted to look for a limit. But they don't set that up. So I booked a small Deposit back because the logical consequence should be that after balancing the account should be limited. But PayPal is there probably carefree. Well, I'm then probably also been one or the other time. Use PayPal but already a few weeks no longer, simply also because I'm really stupid or was and PayPal still promotes and in my opinion exploits. Pay with it also longer no more, still clearly, before I have booked me before Christmas some back and I have read at all from the possibility of the Rückbuchung. So at Risk-free play I have not thought there, therefore nix exploited
And it's clear to me that my statement probably does not meet with much sympathy. Where certainly one or the other has similar thoughts.
And no, therefore I am certainly not a worse or more carefree person. But rather stand on justice. And as I stand to the shit but PayPal must also stand by it and say, you must not act as a "credit company" so irresponsible. It's all a matter of opinion, certainly the spirits part
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Is not that the page that was advertised by a user here?
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The site is totally snot and fake I have a hunch
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Why ?
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If you have slipped so in the loss of control you should rather seek other help and worry less about how you get your voluntarily used money back...
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I believe most of them that they think it's a bad idea, but I'm sure that some of them have already done it or are at least considering it.
And why do I do it? Simple. I'm mostly in control of myself, my budget and that's it
I would never think of taking money back from the credit card, because my credit card limit is actually the maximum budget. Emphasis in the sentence on "limit".
I wouldn't think of doing anything against Trustly, because you can set a limit and every time you make a Deposit you are shown how much is left in your account
I also have no problem with losses via Neteller, because I have to deposit or have credit on it beforehand.
So, and where I now but a problem with is PayPal. For several reasons. If someone says, a player is to blame, then I say in reverse, PayPal is at least equally guilty. I even say that they are trying to make one or the other lose control
First, I have no idea if they have a limit, but I was once denied.
Secondly, after I had asked about the limit and that is not possible, I once a small PayPal payment back. After grumbling, immediately initiated the debit again. And what was? The account was IMMEDIATELY usable again. At least with me. I thought, for the time being, no more debits will be possible. Or only a minimal amount. But no, immediately again full availability
Thirdly, I had myself mostly under control, but like probably many others but also four five times completely exaggerated. Sure, it's my own fault. But it's just so easy, eg at Leovegas. I usually pay between 20 and 60 euros. So, and now I click deposit. Lose. Instant deposit, and again and again and again. I could have bet that it was a maximum of 6-7 deposits. When I looked at the account statement I was sick that it was three times as many. Of course, I set a limit in the casino. But at the same time thought, how can you protect people so little when 20x60 euros are deposited? And that within two hours? There would have to go with such a quantity but every alarm bell. Three deposits, then it should be over.
Also with PayPal payments with me often happened (mostly LeoVegas, but also others), that the message "Payment not successful" came. When it came the first time, I clicked 6 times until it was successful. When I started playing, there were suddenly 300 euros on the account. False message, deposit booked despite error. And what do you do then? Right, play.
And yes, I do not book me everything, but just the things in which I simply find the business model and customer security of PayPal under all sow back and am curious what happens. And the one or other euro will definitely end up in the casino again. And I have meanwhile at the stammcasinos either ne lock or mainly a turnover limit set, before someone says that now. But for me, PayPal is simply a dubious deposit method, which I no longer used in the end anyway, because you lose track.
If someone says it has to do with pride, or comes and thinks betting debts are debts of honor, then I even give right. But when you're dealing with a sensitive topic that threatens the existence of many people, you can expect a certain amount of "protection" from the other side
So, feel free to preach to me how bad or morally reprehensible you think this is. PayPal also behaves morally reprehensible, because it is based on the psychological weakness of the people
As I said, everyone would like to have their money back or a win so that everything is back. And how nice it would be to have everything back in the account. But with every deposit method, where I can protect myself or be protected, I'm guaranteed not to get the idea to do anything. It's my own fault. But if you act as carelessly as a gambler, you shouldn't complain if you take advantage of opportunities to compensate.
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Short question about this ?! you always book all Paypal back things but then pay them anyway so that your Paypal account is available again ? How smart is that ?
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No... misunderstood or mispronounced... I had paid either with PayPal or credit card... but after it has ended disastrously for the first time, I wanted to look for a limit. But they don't set that up. So I booked a small Deposit back because the logical consequence should be that after balancing the account should be limited. But PayPal is there probably carefree. Well, I'm then probably also been one or the other time. Use PayPal but already a few weeks no longer, simply also because I'm really stupid or was and PayPal still promotes and in my opinion exploits. Pay with it also longer no more, still clearly, before I have booked me before Christmas some back and I have read at all from the possibility of the Rückbuchung. So at Risk-free play I have not thought there, therefore nix exploited
And it's clear to me that my statement probably does not meet with much sympathy. Where certainly one or the other has similar thoughts.
And no, therefore I am certainly not a worse or more carefree person. But rather stand on justice. And as I stand to the shit but PayPal must also stand by it and say, you must not act as a "credit company" so irresponsible. It's all a matter of opinion, certainly the spirits part
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Or did you withdraw it before ?
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