Falke wrote on 09.04.2022 at 19:36: Honestly. If you send your bank statements to a dubious company (and that's most casinos), disclose to them how much you earn per month, maybe even where you work, how much savings you have, give them an insight into your savings accounts, thus giving the company an insight into areas that you wouldn't tell even some family members in these details, you have really lost control over your life.
Anyone who constantly pays in money and then allows himself to be blackmailed like this when he makes a win is someone I simply can't take seriously any more. Sorry, but there must really have lost any self-respect.
I still have minimal understanding if one waits for a high win. But in the knowledge that a casino demands something like that or could demand to play there anyway, I will never go into my head how you can do that.
Every casino should be boycotted to the utmost that even remotely demand something like that. And the fact that it's supposedly the law doesn't make things better, on the contrary, it makes things worse. But even that is bullshit, otherwise there would not be so many casinos with the same license that do not require it.
Seriously, if you go along with something like this, what is sacred to you?
Am there absolutely with you Falke .
The whole thing goes way too far and is an absolute security Risk for anyone who sends a casino these documents !!!!
But it really is a requirement of the MGA regulatory authority in Malta .
The origin of this disaster is an EU regulation that has been incorporated into the national legislation of Malta.
The MGA recommends this Verification from an accumulated amount of 2,000€ deposits in a period of 6 months . So on average less than 400€ per month in deposits.
In reality, the whole procedure is only used for higher amounts.
There was here in the forum but also the case that a casino has requested the documents at 2x 20 € Deposit .
Each Malta Casino has its own internal limits when Sow is requested
Some use it to bully players and keep them from withdrawing, others are bullied by the authorities and therefore require the documents even with small deposits.
Probably the internal limit also depends on how good the relations of casino people to the authority are and whether one pays their employees from time to time something into the "coffee cash box"
Here is the official document regarding Sow/ EDD from the authority in Malta :
Krabbenburger wrote on 09.04.2022 at 20:12
Am there absolutely with you falcon .
The whole thing goes way too far and is an absolute security Risk for anyone who sends a casino these documents !!!!
But it really is a requirement of the MGA regulatory authority in Malta .
The origin of this disaster is an EU regulation that has been incorporated into the national legislation of Malta.
The MGA recommends this Verification from an accumulated amount of 2,000€ deposits in a period of 6 months . So on average less than 400€ per month in deposits.
In reality, the whole procedure is only used for higher amounts.
There was here in the forum but also the case that a casino has requested the documents at 2x 20 € Deposit .
Each Malta Casino has its own internal limits when Sow is requested
Some use it to bully players and keep them from withdrawing, others are bullied by the authorities and therefore require the documents even with small deposits.
Probably the internal limit also depends on how good the relations of casino people to the authority are and whether one pays their employees from time to time something into the "coffee cash box"
Here is the official document regarding Sow/ EDD from the authority in Malta :
As I wrote, the fact that it is a law only makes things worse. One more reason to boycott it completely. Big Brother laws like these must not even make school. Everyone can imagine where this ends at some point and how far they can go with it, even in other areas of life.
That's why I dislike people who voluntarily participate in this. They give up not only their own freedom/data protection, but also that of other people. Because if enough join in, those who are against it can no longer defend themselves.
Falke wrote on 09.04.2022 at 19:36: Honestly. If you send your bank statements to a dubious company (and that's most casinos), disclose to them how much you earn per month, maybe even where you work, how much savings you have, give them an insight into your savings accounts, thus giving the company an insight into areas that you wouldn't tell even some family members in these details, you have really lost control over your life.
Anyone who constantly pays in money and then allows himself to be blackmailed like this when he makes a win is someone I simply can't take seriously any more. Sorry, but there must really have lost any self-respect.
I still have minimal understanding if one waits for a high win. But in the knowledge that a casino demands something like that or could demand to play there anyway, I will never go into my head how you can do that.
Every casino should be boycotted to the utmost which also only rudimentarily demand something like that. And the fact that it's supposedly the law doesn't make things better, on the contrary, it makes things worse. But even that is bullshit, otherwise there would not be so many casinos with the same license that do not require it.
Seriously, if you are going to participate in something like this, what is sacred to you?
The problem is what to do then ? Before no one wanted to have the documents then the first came and now every casino with MGA license is emphatically obliged to request that just each with a different limit
What do we do then ? Not play at all anymore ? Even the top casinos do it already with only these are usually at least so that they do not send it when a payout is pending
Every casino which is listed here on GJ can request the documents at any time and there is nothing you can do about it that speaks not for serious or unseriös but only for the increasing pressure the companies get from the authorities
gamble1 wrote on 09.04.2022 at 20:21
The problem is what to do then ? Before no one wanted to have the documents then the first came and now every casino with MGA license is emphatically obliged to request that just each with a different limit
What do we do then ? Not play at all anymore ? Even the top casinos do it already with only these are usually at least so that they do not send it when a payout is pending
Every casino that is listed here on GJ can request the documents at any time and there is nothing you can do about it that does not speak for serious or unseriös but only for the increasing pressure that the companies get from the authorities
Not quite true. There are still many casinos that do not request it. For example, have never read anything from Interwetten or Unibet in this direction
And secondly, yes. Before you play that rather not play at all. Or switch to Curacaos, of which there are also quite serious
But in no case would I ever send my financial circumstances to a casino, so that I "may" be a customer there and "may" gamble my money there. Everyone should still have that much residual pride. The casinos have ruined many lives and in the best case only cost a lot of money. You really don't have to put up with every kind of bullshit
Veto 1:
Both Interwetten and Unibet are running the SOW.
Veto 2:
Why shouldn't I have pride when I prove my income?
I can't understand that at all.
I played and play with high stakes, made and make very high deposits and withdrawals.
I can fully understand that.
And times so at the edge:
I also already had to prove my income in 2 Curacao casinos.
Ok, thanks. Good to know that they do the same.
Of course, one can see it differently. I find it very degrading to have to reveal the most private details of yourself so that you can gamble your money.
But you're right, I phrased it too drastically in the heat of the moment.... I did not mean to attack anyone personally
It is important that there are controversial opinions, that is what our democracy lives on.
All good.
Every MGA casino must! do this from a certain Deposit amount.
Each casino group has an individual margin, but from a deposit of 10000 Euro/month it is inevitable.
It is different with Curacao casinos:
They do it of their own free will.
But they also require it in some cases.
My sports betting Provider and a well-known Dama casino wanted that from me some time ago.
But I must say quite clearly that the Verification lasted in each case not even 1 day.
And very important:
I could still make withdrawals during this time.
And that again, most MGA casinos do not handle so, such as the juice stores Videoslots, Gammix Group or Platin.
They act against the guidelines of the MGA, do it quite deliberately so.
It is important that there are controversial opinions, that is what our democracy lives on.
All good.
Every MGA casino must! do this from a certain Deposit amount.
Each casino group has an individual margin, but from a deposit of 10000 Euro/month this is inevitable.
It is different with Curacao casinos:
They do it of their own free will.
But they also require it in some cases.
My sports betting Provider and a well-known Dama casino wanted that from me some time ago.
But I must say quite clearly that the Verification lasted in each case not even 1 day.
And very important:
I could still make withdrawals during this time.
And that again, most MGA casinos do not handle so, such as the juice stores Videoslots, Gammix Group or Platin.
They act against the guidelines of the MGA, do it quite deliberately so.
Hi Jubla
Interesting point that you had to send these documents also in 2 Curacao casinos . Is rather unusual.
Was the sportsbook provider by chance GG.Bet ?
There would be the explanation that the parent company of the operating company is located in Cyprus and thus falls under EU law even if gambling services are offered through a subsidiary in Curacao .
Which Dama N.V Casino wanted to see proof of income?
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No. Just looked it up there are Sofort, Jeton, CashtoCode or just Cryptos(BTC, ETH, LTC or Bitcoin Cash)
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Am there absolutely with you Falke .
The whole thing goes way too far and is an absolute security Risk for anyone who sends a casino these documents !!!!
But it really is a requirement of the MGA regulatory authority in Malta .
The origin of this disaster is an EU regulation that has been incorporated into the national legislation of Malta.
The MGA recommends this Verification from an accumulated amount of 2,000€ deposits in a period of 6 months . So on average less than 400€ per month in deposits.
In reality, the whole procedure is only used for higher amounts.
There was here in the forum but also the case that a casino has requested the documents at 2x 20 € Deposit .
Each Malta Casino has its own internal limits when Sow is requested
Some use it to bully players and keep them from withdrawing, others are bullied by the authorities and therefore require the documents even with small deposits.
Probably the internal limit also depends on how good the relations of casino people to the authority are and whether one pays their employees from time to time something into the "coffee cash box"
Here is the official document regarding Sow/ EDD from the authority in Malta :
https://www.mga.org.mt/wp-content/uploads/Implementing-Procedures-Part-II_Remote-Gaming.pdf
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As I wrote, the fact that it is a law only makes things worse. One more reason to boycott it completely. Big Brother laws like these must not even make school. Everyone can imagine where this ends at some point and how far they can go with it, even in other areas of life.
That's why I dislike people who voluntarily participate in this. They give up not only their own freedom/data protection, but also that of other people. Because if enough join in, those who are against it can no longer defend themselves.
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The problem is what to do then ? Before no one wanted to have the documents then the first came and now every casino with MGA license is emphatically obliged to request that just each with a different limit
What do we do then ? Not play at all anymore ? Even the top casinos do it already with only these are usually at least so that they do not send it when a payout is pending
Every casino which is listed here on GJ can request the documents at any time and there is nothing you can do about it that speaks not for serious or unseriös but only for the increasing pressure the companies get from the authorities
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Not quite true. There are still many casinos that do not request it. For example, have never read anything from Interwetten or Unibet in this direction
And secondly, yes. Before you play that rather not play at all. Or switch to Curacaos, of which there are also quite serious
But in no case would I ever send my financial circumstances to a casino, so that I "may" be a customer there and "may" gamble my money there. Everyone should still have that much residual pride. The casinos have ruined many lives and in the best case only cost a lot of money. You really don't have to put up with every kind of bullshit
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Veto 1:
Both Interwetten and Unibet perform the SOW.
Veto 2:
Why shouldn't I have pride when I prove my income?
I can't understand that at all.
I played and play with high stakes, made and make very high deposits and withdrawals.
I can fully understand that.
And times so at the edge:
Also in 2 Curacao casinos I already had to prove my income.
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Ok, thanks. Good to know that they do the same.
Of course, one can see it differently. I find it very degrading to have to reveal the most private details of yourself so that you can gamble your money.
But you're right, I phrased it too drastically in the heat of the moment.... I did not mean to attack anyone personally
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It is important that there are controversial opinions, that is what our democracy lives on.
All good.
Every MGA casino must! do this from a certain Deposit amount.
Each casino group has an individual margin, but from a deposit of 10000 Euro/month it is inevitable.
It is different with Curacao casinos:
They do it of their own free will.
But they also require it in some cases.
My sports betting Provider and a well-known Dama casino wanted that from me some time ago.
But I must say quite clearly that the Verification lasted in each case not even 1 day.
And very important:
I could still make withdrawals during this time.
And that again, most MGA casinos do not handle so, such as the juice stores Videoslots, Gammix Group or Platin.
They act against the guidelines of the MGA, do it quite deliberately so.
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Hi Jubla
Interesting point that you had to send these documents also in 2 Curacao casinos . Is rather unusual.
Was the sportsbook provider by chance GG.Bet ?
There would be the explanation that the parent company of the operating company is located in Cyprus and thus falls under EU law even if gambling services are offered through a subsidiary in Curacao .
Which Dama N.V Casino wanted to see proof of income?
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