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Community surveys: What do you think about the legalization of cannabis on April 1st? (Page 2)

Topic created on 21st Feb. 2024 | Page: 2 of 5 | Answers: 66 | Views: 2,164
Stromberg
Legend

Peter8 wrote on 22.02.2024 at 10:56: It says you can possess 18g and store 50g dry in the home, not near schools 100m smoking

And the clubs should not become too commercial, wait until THC has a lobby like tobacco
In 10 years you can buy weed in Aldi

Which is only fair, how many drink wine or champagne or beer or liquor and at prices that are almost cheaper than water lol

Alcohol is disgusting and pure poison but you can have a ton in the cellar, weed but then only 50g haha what's that.

Clubs are not supposed to work commercially, so I understand that correctly
That you grow the plants yourself in the club and swap them with each other or how is that supposed to work, I didn't quite get that right

I think that simply means that the costs for growing and possibly a small expense allowance for the operators are covered by the contributions, but no win is made beyond that.

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Stromberg
Legend
Donnie wrote on 22.02.2024 at 11:58 am: You don't have to smoke your head off every day either. But it is a gateway drug. Many start with weed and then at some point you get the white stuff that you put up your nose, throw in ecstasy or inject yourself. That's when people really get hooked. Then they never get off it, luckily the only thing I've ever used is alcohol or weed/hashish. On the other hand, medical marijuana also helps to cope better with many illnesses. Doesn't make you aggressive like booze. How many families have been destroyed with booze. Whether you buy it legally in a club/shop or illegally on the street makes no difference. In addition, it could be offered completely clean and not diluted. There are always pros and cons

I can't really confirm cannabis as a gateway drug from my experience.

In my circle of friends, almost everyone smoked weed from the age of 16, one or the other has stopped, some still do. I myself still smoke occasionally, maybe twice a month or so.
Of course, there were times when I was at a party and I'd throw a joint or take a puff (I never actually did). But that was really limited to a few evenings a year and nobody got out of hand. Half of the people didn't even try it, they just weren't interested.
And they were all a long way away from injecting 😂
I don't think the study situation is that clear-cut either.

But of course, there are also completely different cases, you just can't generalize.
And legalization would eliminate contact with the black market, and thus possibly also the supply of other drugs.

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Stromberg
Legend
Julian wrote on February 22nd, 2024 at 11:44 am:
Without wanting to make enemies here in the forum, but I don't think cannabis should be trivialized too much.
I personally used to consume cannabis for years, but as I got older I realized that it had a very negative effect on me in the long run.
For this reason, I've kept my hands off it for ages and won't touch it again in the future.

In my circle of friends in Germany, where almost everyone had started using at that time, you could also see quite clearly that there were some candidates for whom frequent use could have a positive effect, e.g. one of my best friends, who was already quite hyper as a child and always brought home bad grades because he could never concentrate at school.
According to his own statement, the use of cannabis helped him in the later stages of his life to learn better and complete his studies.

Unfortunately, there are also negative examples. Where daily cannabis use has also completely taken over the everyday lives of some old acquaintances of mine and they are never to be found sober from morning to night and still can't get their lives under control as a result.

I actually know 2-3 people who have developed psychosis because of it.
To my knowledge, however, this is also very dependent on the genes and should not really be the norm.
Nonetheless, cannabis can really do a lot of damage if you have the wrong predispositions.

Personally, I think legalization is a good thing in itself, but I would find it extremely important that young people in particular should be properly educated about it.




I wouldn't trivialize it either.

Using my own example, I can say that smoking weed probably cost me my A-levels and therefore a few alternative paths in life, but luckily I still had my vocational diploma in my pocket
Fortunately, I got my act together in my early 20s, even with continued smoking weed😬😃. Work or training, where you just do your job or are out of the window, turned out to be good for me 😂
Others in my circle of friends went through school, university etc. with similar consumption and are now in very good jobs...

Everyone is different and if in doubt, I would recommend leaving it alone or only starting when you have both feet on the ground.

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H****r
I would just like to briefly emphasize that I think it is great what is written here.
It deals soberly with the topic!
I don't want to mislead anyone with my survey, but merely support education about consumption and youth protection laws.
I have written that I think it is good and I stand by it.
It simply can't be that you are punished with a few grams of weed more than other crimes that I don't want to go into here.

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R3hab
Expert

Stromberg wrote on February 22nd, 2024 at 12:00 am:

I think that simply means that the costs for the cultivation and possibly a small expense allowance for the operators are covered by the contributions, but no win is made beyond that.

I understand, but that just raises more questions

Let's wait and see, it will soon be time and we will see what we are allowed to do

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needle34
Expert
As the politician says back then, release the hemp

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Kanalmalocher
Rookie
Does smoking weed turn fastpins into normal spins?

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Donnie
Expert
I remember the first time I smoked weed. I must have been about 13 years old. A good friend at the time, who had his birthday on the same day as me and was a few years older, smoked a bong. I always refused at first and at some point said give me the thing, then it started. After that I smoked very often, almost every day, etc.

Back then at our secondary school, a policeman came by to educate the classes about drugs. The skull and crossbones bong he had with him and put on the teacher's desk was really funny. Marijuana is also a soft drug and I don't think it's that addictive, even nicotine is worse. It was always said to be a gateway drug. A movie was once shown at school, I think it was called The Golden Shot about a heroin junkie. Addiction prevention was already taking place, but many people still didn't miss out on trying it, i.e. weed and not heroin. Whether it should be legalized or banned is hard to say, everyone reacts differently to drugs. Some people manage to keep their lives under control and others are ruined by it. Driving while intoxicated should remain illegal, although there are also sober drivers who are too stupid to drive. It's just weed and Friday is high day. Another negative aspect is the binge eating that you can get from the stuff; conversely, if someone is anorexic, they probably won't be anymore if they consume weed

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MisterL
Expert
nicotine is just as addictive as heroin (seen on tv)

but if you don't smoke for a few hours, you become so aggressive and are in a bad mood non-stop that even gambling doesn't help to suppress the thought of a cigar

and imagine instead of bad thoughts there is physical pain, it's hard to imagine what hell heroin addicts go through.

the substitutes are permanently dependent on medication (metadon etc.).

Guys, don't let them drive you crazy, even if you think they are supposed to be mind-expanding, you only get smarter or wiser if you do a job that you enjoy.

NO POWER TO DRUGS!!!!!!

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Falke
Expert
Julian wrote on February 22nd, 2024 at 11:44 am:
Without wanting to make enemies here in the forum, but I don't think cannabis should be trivialized too much.
I personally used to consume cannabis for years, but as I got older I realized that it had a very negative effect on me in the long run.
For this reason, I've kept my hands off it for ages and won't touch it again in the future.

In my circle of friends in Germany, where almost everyone had started using at that time, you could also see quite clearly that there were some candidates for whom frequent use could have a positive effect, e.g. one of my best friends, who was already quite hyper as a child and always brought home bad grades because he could never concentrate at school.
According to his own statement, the use of cannabis helped him in the later stages of his life to learn better and complete his studies.

Unfortunately, there are also negative examples. Where daily cannabis use has also completely taken over the everyday lives of some old acquaintances of mine and they are never to be found sober from morning to night and still can't get their lives under control as a result.

I actually know 2-3 people who have developed psychosis because of it.
To my knowledge, however, this is also very dependent on the genes and should not really be the norm.
Nonetheless, cannabis can really do a lot of damage if you have the wrong predispositions.

Personally, I think legalization is a good thing in itself, but I would find it extremely important that young people in particular should be properly educated about it.




Yes, a lot of things can ruin people. Nicotine, alcohol, gambling, medication, etc.


As always, it's all about profiteering and certainly not about protecting anyone. For example, more people are addicted to benzos than to illegal drugs. Withdrawal from benzos is worse than from heroin and getting benzos is very, very easy in this country. You can immediately find a doctor who prescribes them for fear of flying or other anxieties.

If heroin were available to the user completely cleanly, you could take it for 20 years without dying. Most heroin deaths only occur because so much dirt is mixed into it. I don't want to trivialize heroin, just keep your hands off the stuff, but what I'm getting at is that there are also many legal substances that have a similar addictive potential, but are sold as drugs instead of being called drugs.

It's the same with Ritalin, where almost every fidgety student in America who deviates a little from the norm is pumped full of it. Ritalin is an amphetamine, the same group of active ingredients as speed. This means that countless children are taking speed legally, while adults have to buy the dirty speed on the street.

I don't want to make it sound like I'm in favor of the complete liberalization of all drugs, especially since I don't take any drugs myself anyway (apart from nicotine and gambling) and don't even drink alcohol. And if you look at the opioid crisis in China at the time, it doesn't paint a pretty picture either.
Politicians are certainly not concerned with protection, however, there are too many double standards being set in this area and there are simply far too many legal drugs on the market as medicines.

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Dutch78
Top Member
If everyone who voted with I am absolutely against it also doesn't drink any alcohol, then I can understand this attitude very well, although I don't have to share it.
However, if that's not the case for everyone, then I can't understand anything here, because that's just very short-term thinking, or worse, with a certain double standard.
Anyone who drinks alcohol and speaks out against weed has perhaps not properly weighed up the risks of alcohol compared to the good Mary Jane.

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Blubbo33
Elite
Those who are in favor, do you actually have children?
Would you seriously explain exactly the same thing to your children?

Don't smoke cigarettes, but if you want to smoke weed you can help yourself in the cupboard!

I am amazed at so much joy about smoking weed!
Let's see how many more traffic accidents or accidents at work there are!

I accept your opinion but I can't understand it!

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Falke
Expert

Blubbo33 wrote on 22.02.2024 at 22:12: Those who are in favor, do you actually have children ?
Would you seriously explain exactly the same thing to your children?

Don't use cigarettes but if you want to smoke weed you can help yourself in the closet!

I am amazed at so much joy about smoking weed!
Let's see how many more traffic accidents or accidents at work there are!

I accept your opinion but I can't understand it!

It's nonsense. It's not about what you explain to your own children. Gambling, alcohol and nicotine are also legal and yet no normal parent tells their children that it's completely okay, on the contrary.


So your argument doesn't work at all and is completely out of thin air.

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Blubbo33
Elite

Paddington wrote on 22.02.2024 at 08:49: The people who vote "absolutely against" should think again. For prevention reasons alone, legalization only makes sense, regardless of whether you consume it yourself or not.

Please explain!

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Donnie
Expert
Maybe you have to look at it this way. You legalize a relatively harmless drug like cannabis and instead step up the fight against hard/worse drugs

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