unicorn wrote on 19.06.2021 at 13:47
If it wasn't for media pressure and public criticism he would have run the team into the wall long ago, this is so safe.
I am of the opinion that all the pressure from the media and the public "criticism" towards the team is only contra productive, because in the end they can't concentrate on the essentials anymore, but have to deal with some stupid questions or accusations all the time. - I understand why the team spirit of the team has gotten such a crack.
In general, I think it's a pity that the whole nation seems to be so upset with the German team and only talks negatively about them.
For me, it really seems as if Germany only consists of success fans who only support their national team if they also win titles.
That's why I can't read the comments section on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and co. anymore, because I find the comments for the most part just shameful.
I am of the opinion, just to a situation where you notice that it is in the team crisis, that you should then support them all the more.
And maybe you can accuse me that I have rose-colored fan glasses on, but as mentioned yesterday I have a very good feeling about the game today against Portugal, of course it will not be easy, but it is aufjedenfall feasible
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Julian wrote on 19.06.2021 at 14:57
I am of the opinion that the whole pressure of the media and the public "criticism" towards the team is only contra productive, since they can concentrate finally thereby no longer on the substantial, but must concern themselves the whole time only with any stupid questions or reproaches. - I understand why the team spirit of the team has gotten such a crack.
In general, I think it's a pity that the whole nation seems to be so upset with the German team and only talks negatively about them.
For me, it really seems as if Germany only consists of success fans who only support their national team if they also win titles.
That's why I can't read the comments section on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and co. anymore, because I find the comments for the most part just shameful.
I am of the opinion, just to a situation where you notice that it is in the team crises, that you should then support them all the more.
And maybe you can accuse me that I have rose-colored fan glasses on, but as mentioned yesterday I have a very good feeling about the game today against Portugal, of course it will not be easy, but it is aufjedenfall feasible
That's true what you say. But first and foremost the media always see the coach as the main culprit when the team plays badly. It also seems to me that the coach is picked on more than the players themselves. Ultimately, the coach is always responsible for the failure, because the players stay, the coach goes. It's also clear that it can't always just be the coach's fault. But I believe that a certain calm will return as soon as Flick takes the helm. Flick is well-liked on all sides and has a number of laurels to his name, which will make him and the team untouchable for the time being. Even if the team continues to play like crap under Flick, the media will take the position that it takes time to implement Flick's new ideas and visions, and that of course this can't work overnight, etc. so I think that Flick's new ideas and visions will take time to implement. therefore, I believe that under Flick the wind will be taken out of the sails of the media for a while and the team will be left "alone" for the time being
unicorn wrote on 19.06.2021 at 14:37
Bro, we don't need to seriously look at the EM quali. Germany had Belarus, Northern Ireland and Estonia in the group. Against these teams they were nothing else than friendly matches. The only competitor was the Netherlands, against whom Germany won once 3:2 and lost the other time 2:4. So even the direct comparison against the only true competitor lost! That Germany has become first in the group is therefore solely due to the stupidity of Holland, because they have left points against another Fallobst team somewhere
The Portugal group was not much stronger, but at least there were two serious opponents, Ukraine and Serbia. In the end, Portugal only lost 1 game in the quali, just like Germany. So we can forget about the quali results. I'm even sure that Germany has taken the friendlies against Spain and North Macedonia more seriously than any qualifiers against Estonia and Belarus kack ab
And the reason I use 2018 is because that's where the last real competitive matches took place. These qualifying matches, where the generic team consists partly of letter carriers, car mechanics and firemen, remain for me nothing but friendly matches
Ukraine and Serbia to be taken seriously? As strong as you see the Portuguese, Ukraine and Serbia are definitely not strong. The fact that Portugal is there, to turn it around like you do, is only because Serbia was too stupid
Partly friendly games and take seriously, that's just speculation from you. Fact is, Germany was first in a group in which at least one strong opponent was. Portugal just so 2nd in one where they should normally be first.
Since you like to compare squads, half or even more than half of the 2018 team isn't even on the pitch today!
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Patizi wrote on 19.06.2021 at 15:47
Ukraine and Serbia to be taken seriously? As strong as you see the Portuguese, Ukraine and Serbia are definitely not strong. That Portugal is there, to turn it around as you ka, is only because Serbia was just too stupid
Partly friendly games and take seriously, that's just speculation from you. Fact is, Germany was first in a group in which at least one strong opponent was. Portugal just so 2nd in one where they should normally be first.
Since you like to compare squads, half or even more than half of the 2018 team isn't even on the pitch today!
Serbia was too stupid? 😂😂😂 what are you basing that on? They won what there was to win. But have lost to Portugal and played to a draw. Portugal a goal ratio of 22:6 and Serbia of 17:17. That you are in the end before Serbia, looks to me in any case not after luck
That you take these ridiculous EM Quali groups as a reference, I would not have eig expected from you. Since rather the Nations League groups have more significance, since one plays there with equally good competitors in a group. The fact that Germany there with France and the Netherlands in the group last place with a ridiculous 2 points made and relegated, you have probably no longer on the screen
By the way, Portugal even won the Nations League in the end. In the final against the Netherlands, who were so strong in the Germany group. And if you still see the ridiculous European Championship qualifiers with Estonia, Belarus and Northern Ireland as more important and meaningful than the Nations League, then we don't need to discuss it any further anyway
unicorn wrote on 19.06.2021 at 16:06
Serbia was too stupid? 😂😂😂 what are you basing that on? They won what there was to win. But have lost to Portugal and played to a draw. Portugal a goal ratio of 22:6 and Serbia of 17:17. That you are in the end before Serbia, looks to me in any case not after luck
That you take these ridiculous EM Quali groups as a reference, I would not have eig expected from you. Since rather the Nations League groups have more significance, since one plays there with equally good competitors in a group. The fact that Germany there with France and the Netherlands in the group last place with a ridiculous 2 points made and relegated, you have probably no longer on the screen
By the way, Portugal even won the Nations League in the end. In the final against the Netherlands, who were so strong in the Germany group. And if you still consider the ridiculous European Championship qualifiers with Estonia, Belarus and Northern Ireland as more important and meaningful than the Nations League, then we don't need to discuss it any further anyway
You take friendlies and the games from 2018 as a reference. Is of course more cool! Is also not so that the Quali 2019 was played. 🙃 Please do not come to me with the Nationa League. What has the please for a value? Is pushed but geh as it goes. Was not Germany even once relegated and still remained in it? Yes, of course, the competition can be taken more seriously
Who won this strange Nations League, I can not tell you because the competition has no relevance for me. Did not even know that there is a winner played out by a final 😂
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Patizi wrote on 06/19/2021 at 16:37
You take friendlies and 2018 games as reference.
Bro, you still took yesterday's games from 7 years ago and even later as reference, there 2018 is still as if it was yesterday. But luckily the game starts right away and then you see that you were wrong and Germany has no chance to win against Portugal.
Sure, Germany has an advantage today because they are playing at home. But in a duel on neutral ground things would be even clearer. Unfortunately Felix is not playing today, but it should be enough for an X.
Julian wrote on 19.06.2021 at 14:57
I am of the opinion that the whole pressure of the media and the public "criticism" towards the team is only contra productive, since they can concentrate finally thereby no longer on the substantial, but must concern themselves the whole time only with any stupid questions or reproaches. - I understand why the team spirit of the team has gotten such a crack.
In general, I think it's a pity that the whole nation seems to be so upset with the German team and only talks negatively about them.
For me, it really seems as if Germany only consists of success fans who only support their national team if they also win titles.
That's why I can't read the comments section on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and co. anymore, because I find the comments for the most part just shameful.
I am of the opinion, just to a situation where you notice that it is in the team crises, that you should then support them all the more.
And maybe you can accuse me that I have rose-colored fan glasses on, but as mentioned yesterday I have a very good feeling about the game today against Portugal, of course it will not be easy, but it is aufjedenfall feasible
The German national team, or also called "Die Mannschaft" has in Germany but also a bad reputation.
I can not identify with it either.
3 examples why:
2015: name change from "Nationalmannschaft" to "Die Mannschaft".
What a bullshit.
I could not be further from interest in nationality, which I do not care. But to make the word "National" a bad word is just ridiculous.
2018: The Özil/Gündogan/Erdogan story. It was solved so badly
Either you are consistent because you rightly criticize Erdogan and his form of government, accept the political consequences and condemn the players for having the "wrong" views - then you kick them out and that's it
Or you keep politics and sports separate (which I would find better) and say quite clearly, the two belong sportingly to the "national team" and the political views do not matter, as long as they do not become extremist. And a photo with "his president" is not.
It was but rumgeeiert, the players have scripted apologized what has believed anyway no one and there was just a cut between team and fans. Then there were the poor sporting results at the 2018 World Cup.
2021: World Cup in Qatar
One would have had now the chance to win the sympathies of almost everyone in Germany, almost everyone in the world, in which one boycotts this B*starde in Qatar. Simply disgusting.
If Norway wants to do that, great. But they probably won't qualify anyway, so this has no meaning.
If Germany would boycott something like that, it would have an extreme significance.
But no, there is cowering again. It's all about money. They'd rather paint their shirts and cheer for themselves.
And yes, I know that also in Brazil, Russia, South Africa are partly bad conditions, but Qatar exceeds these again. And now would be the right time to boycott.
in 2006, the national team was still cool, everyone celebrated. Not anymore.
That's why I just want the game to end the way I predicted it. Today with victory Portugal
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Wutmaennchen wrote on 19.06.2021 at 17:09
But the German national team, or also called "Die Mannschaft" has a bad reputation in Germany.
I can't identify with it either.
3 examples why:
2015: name change from "Nationalmannschaft" to "Die Mannschaft".
What a bullshit.
I could not be further from interest in nationality, which I do not care. But to make the word "National" a bad word is just ridiculous.
2018: The Özil/Gündogan/Erdogan story. It was solved so badly
Either you are consistent because you rightly criticize Erdogan and his form of government, accept the political consequences and condemn the players for having the "wrong" views - then you kick them out and that's it
Or you keep politics and sports separate (which I would find better) and say quite clearly, the two belong sportingly to the "national team" and the political views do not matter, as long as they do not become extremist. And a photo with "his president" is not.
It was but rumgeeiert, the players have scripted apologized what has believed anyway no one and there was just a cut between team and fans. Then there were the poor sporting results at the 2018 World Cup.
2021: World Cup in Qatar
One would have had now the chance to win the sympathies of almost everyone in Germany, almost everyone in the world, in which one boycotts this B*starde in Qatar. Simply disgusting.
If Norway wants to do that, great. But they probably won't qualify anyway, so this has no meaning.
If Germany would boycott something like that, it would have an extreme significance.
But no, there is cowering again. It's all about money. They'd rather paint their shirts and cheer for themselves.
And yes, I know that also in Brazil, Russia, South Africa are partly bad conditions, but Qatar exceeds these again. And now would be the right time to boycott.
in 2006, the national team was still cool, everyone celebrated. Not anymore.
So I just want the game to end the way I predicted it. Today with victory Portugal
Wutmaennchen, real man of honor. 🤝optimal summarized what has gone wrong in recent years and how the rift between the fans came about
Unfortunately, those responsible do not learn much from it and already in the next game between Germany and Hungary they want to mix politics with sports again and make a pro-homosexuality event out of it, after Hungary has passed a homosexual-hostile censorship law, I could puke again
So if the Alianz Arena then illuminated in rainbow colors, then the national team has once again surpassed itself in embarrassment.
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I am of the opinion that all the pressure from the media and the public "criticism" towards the team is only contra productive, because in the end they can't concentrate on the essentials anymore, but have to deal with some stupid questions or accusations all the time. - I understand why the team spirit of the team has gotten such a crack.
In general, I think it's a pity that the whole nation seems to be so upset with the German team and only talks negatively about them.
For me, it really seems as if Germany only consists of success fans who only support their national team if they also win titles.
That's why I can't read the comments section on YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and co. anymore, because I find the comments for the most part just shameful.
I am of the opinion, just to a situation where you notice that it is in the team crisis, that you should then support them all the more.
And maybe you can accuse me that I have rose-colored fan glasses on, but as mentioned yesterday I have a very good feeling about the game today against Portugal, of course it will not be easy, but it is aufjedenfall feasible
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That's true what you say. But first and foremost the media always see the coach as the main culprit when the team plays badly. It also seems to me that the coach is picked on more than the players themselves. Ultimately, the coach is always responsible for the failure, because the players stay, the coach goes. It's also clear that it can't always just be the coach's fault. But I believe that a certain calm will return as soon as Flick takes the helm. Flick is well-liked on all sides and has a number of laurels to his name, which will make him and the team untouchable for the time being. Even if the team continues to play like crap under Flick, the media will take the position that it takes time to implement Flick's new ideas and visions, and that of course this can't work overnight, etc. so I think that Flick's new ideas and visions will take time to implement. therefore, I believe that under Flick the wind will be taken out of the sails of the media for a while and the team will be left "alone" for the time being
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Point and victory against Hungary are enough but since 16 of 24 advance
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Ukraine and Serbia to be taken seriously? As strong as you see the Portuguese, Ukraine and Serbia are definitely not strong. The fact that Portugal is there, to turn it around like you do, is only because Serbia was too stupid
Partly friendly games and take seriously, that's just speculation from you. Fact is, Germany was first in a group in which at least one strong opponent was. Portugal just so 2nd in one where they should normally be first.
Since you like to compare squads, half or even more than half of the 2018 team isn't even on the pitch today!
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Serbia was too stupid? 😂😂😂 what are you basing that on? They won what there was to win. But have lost to Portugal and played to a draw. Portugal a goal ratio of 22:6 and Serbia of 17:17. That you are in the end before Serbia, looks to me in any case not after luck
That you take these ridiculous EM Quali groups as a reference, I would not have eig expected from you. Since rather the Nations League groups have more significance, since one plays there with equally good competitors in a group. The fact that Germany there with France and the Netherlands in the group last place with a ridiculous 2 points made and relegated, you have probably no longer on the screen
By the way, Portugal even won the Nations League in the end. In the final against the Netherlands, who were so strong in the Germany group. And if you still see the ridiculous European Championship qualifiers with Estonia, Belarus and Northern Ireland as more important and meaningful than the Nations League, then we don't need to discuss it any further anyway
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You take friendlies and the games from 2018 as a reference. Is of course more cool! Is also not so that the Quali 2019 was played. 🙃 Please do not come to me with the Nationa League. What has the please for a value? Is pushed but geh as it goes. Was not Germany even once relegated and still remained in it? Yes, of course, the competition can be taken more seriously
Who won this strange Nations League, I can not tell you because the competition has no relevance for me. Did not even know that there is a winner played out by a final 😂
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Bro, you still took yesterday's games from 7 years ago and even later as reference, there 2018 is still as if it was yesterday. But luckily the game starts right away and then you see that you were wrong and Germany has no chance to win against Portugal.
Sure, Germany has an advantage today because they are playing at home. But in a duel on neutral ground things would be even clearer. Unfortunately Felix is not playing today, but it should be enough for an X.
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The German national team, or also called "Die Mannschaft" has in Germany but also a bad reputation.
I can not identify with it either.
3 examples why:
2015: name change from "Nationalmannschaft" to "Die Mannschaft".
What a bullshit.
I could not be further from interest in nationality, which I do not care. But to make the word "National" a bad word is just ridiculous.
2018: The Özil/Gündogan/Erdogan story. It was solved so badly
Either you are consistent because you rightly criticize Erdogan and his form of government, accept the political consequences and condemn the players for having the "wrong" views - then you kick them out and that's it
Or you keep politics and sports separate (which I would find better) and say quite clearly, the two belong sportingly to the "national team" and the political views do not matter, as long as they do not become extremist. And a photo with "his president" is not.
It was but rumgeeiert, the players have scripted apologized what has believed anyway no one and there was just a cut between team and fans. Then there were the poor sporting results at the 2018 World Cup.
2021: World Cup in Qatar
One would have had now the chance to win the sympathies of almost everyone in Germany, almost everyone in the world, in which one boycotts this B*starde in Qatar. Simply disgusting.
If Norway wants to do that, great. But they probably won't qualify anyway, so this has no meaning.
If Germany would boycott something like that, it would have an extreme significance.
But no, there is cowering again. It's all about money. They'd rather paint their shirts and cheer for themselves.
And yes, I know that also in Brazil, Russia, South Africa are partly bad conditions, but Qatar exceeds these again. And now would be the right time to boycott.
in 2006, the national team was still cool, everyone celebrated. Not anymore.
That's why I just want the game to end the way I predicted it. Today with victory Portugal
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Wutmaennchen, real man of honor. 🤝optimal summarized what has gone wrong in recent years and how the rift between the fans came about
Unfortunately, those responsible do not learn much from it and already in the next game between Germany and Hungary they want to mix politics with sports again and make a pro-homosexuality event out of it, after Hungary has passed a homosexual-hostile censorship law, I could puke again
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I guess I've been shouting it down. The last 3 games all X, that has broken a lot of bills
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