GambleGanja wrote on 05/25/2019 10:13 pm
I really don't want to open a big can of worms now,but I lived in Bavaria for a while and saw people go to jail for under 5 grams...
1.i can not believe
2.stupid if you get caught.
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Are sports betting now also prohibited?
27th May. 2019, at 10:44 am CEST#23
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Marqes wrote on 05/25/2019 at 10:16 pm
1.cANNOT BELIEVE
2.stupid if you get caught.
Bavaria probably has the toughest laws against drugs but for 5g's you don't go to jail even there
In a distant country before our time I had that, how shall I say, for scarcely 10 years ausrecherchiert... there should have given it someone with approx. 1kg Ganja + 30g Hawaiian mushrooms for import into the FRG in not small quantities 4 weeks U-arrest, 3000eu fine and 1,5j on 3j. probation got^^
If you do not even have to go to jail for it, I suspect that 5g are not worth mentioning;-)
Is there anything new on this? The opinions are unfortunately divided...
Either a gray area due to the ECJ ruling or equally forbidden since it is usually linked to the own casino and live betting is offered (does not comply with §4 (5) GlüStV).
Guenther123 wrote on 06/07/2019 at 10:16 am: Is there anything new on this? The opinions are unfortunately divergent...
Either gray area due to the ECJ ruling or equally prohibited since mostly linked to their own casino and live betting is offered (does not comply with §4 (5) GlüStV).
Would be great if someone could help me
LG Günni
Sports betting is currently tolerated in Germany due to the ECJ ruling. There is also 5% betting tax levied. By 2020, online sports betting should probably also finally be regulated, at least that was the idea in the last Minister President Conference on the subject in March 2019
Some providers also distinguish between sports betting and online casinos. On sunmaker.de, for example, only the sports section is displayed, so you would be on the safe side
Do you think the regulation will prove useful? I am there but rather critical...
Believe that will be interpreted but very much for the gambling providers
I have just relatively much money lying and look me straight info together as it looks with the legal situation.
Is there regarding a chargeback what feasible? So now explicitly for sports betting.
Guenther123 wrote on 07/07/2019 at 22:39: Thanks first for your reply!
Do you think the regulation will prove to be useful? I am rather critical...
Believe that will be designed but very much for the gambling providers
I have just relatively much money lying and look me straight info together as it looks with the legal situation.
Is there regarding a chargeback what feasible? So now explicitly for sports betting.
LG
No, sports betting is tolerated and does not fall under "illegal" gambling. As I said, it is a previously tolerated gray area. In a case before Berlin courts it was even argued that the gambling providers used also offered sports betting in addition to casino games. From the court's point of view, the player's bank could therefore not even know what the money was ultimately used for
As far as the sense of regulation is concerned, we will see when the time comes. It would certainly be possible to draft good regulations that would strengthen Player protection, but this would require a strong regulatory authority along the lines of the UK Gambling Commission. Whether such an authority can be established in Germany in a relatively short time remains questionable. When I look at the current changes to the technical requirements for gaming arcades, they are no further ahead than before - something that politicians seem to have realized in the meantime.
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8th Jul. 2019, at 08:30 am CEST#29
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Well, tolerated are also a few grams of grass, depending on the state.
Nevertheless, they are not legal
There is at least no legally definitive solution to which one could refer, is there?
could refer to, right?
Court rulings can vary, depending on the circumstances of the case,
so they do not necessarily have the character of instructions.
Similar to the chargeback. If I want to play for play money, as suggested in the advertising
suggested in the advertisement, I am then "secretly" redirected to the page with real money, thus I am
i would not know how a verdict would look like. Probably
rather per player, if he can prove this credibly. Ignorance does not protect from punishment
but the illegal redirection to a real money gambling site might be very close to fraud / deception
Fraud / deception. However, this would affect not so much the banks as the casino operators
the casino operators.
Of course, if I appear in court and want to get my money back, even though I knew
knew about the punishability, and also consciously selected a real gambling money side,
it will be rejected, of course. That's why this is a detail that has unfortunately not yet been made public
has not yet been made public, and it is also not apparent from the judgment exactly what grounds the
on which the plaintiffs based their claims.
If I have overlooked something, please provide it!
That's why I'd be interested to hear the plaintiffs' arguments. So far I could only read out,
that they wanted to pass the responsibility on to the banks
blue46 wrote on 08/07/2019 08:30: Well, tolerated are also a few grams of grass, depending on the state.
Legal they are still not because of that
At least there is no legally definitive solution that can be relied on
could refer to, right?
Court rulings can vary, depending on the nature of the case,
so they do not necessarily have the character of instructions.
Similar to the chargeback. If I want to play for play money, as suggested in the advertising
suggested in the advertisement, I am then "secretly" redirected to the page with real money, thus I am
i would not know how a verdict would look like. Probably
rather per player, if he can prove this credibly. Ignorance does not protect from punishment
but the illegal redirection to a real money gambling site might be very close to fraud / deception
Fraud / deception. However, this would affect not so much the banks as the casino operators
the casino operators.
Of course, if I appear in court and want to get my money back, even though I knew
knew about the punishability, and also consciously selected a real gambling money side,
it will be rejected, of course. That's why this is a detail that has unfortunately not yet been made public
has not yet been made public, and it is also not apparent from the judgment exactly what grounds the
on which the plaintiffs based their claims.
If I have overlooked something, please provide it!
That's why I'd be interested to hear the plaintiffs' arguments. So far I could only read out,
that they wanted to pass the responsibility on to the banks.
You can't charge back sports bets, that only works for money that has flowed into online slots, Roulette, ....
Are sports betting now also prohibited?
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I really do not want to open a big barrel, but I lived for a while in Bavaria and saw people go to jail for less than 5 grams...
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1.i can not believe
2.stupid if you get caught.
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Are sports betting now also prohibited?
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Bavaria probably has the toughest laws against drugs but for 5g's you don't go to jail even there
In a distant country before our time I had that, how shall I say, for scarcely 10 years ausrecherchiert... there should have given it someone with approx. 1kg Ganja + 30g Hawaiian mushrooms for import into the FRG in not small quantities 4 weeks U-arrest, 3000eu fine and 1,5j on 3j. probation got^^
If you do not even have to go to jail for it, I suspect that 5g are not worth mentioning;-)
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Then sign up for a drug forum. Or write to each other privately.
Found the BTM thread already repulsive where even forum responsible what have posted instead of it immediately to stop.
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Either a gray area due to the ECJ ruling or equally forbidden since it is usually linked to the own casino and live betting is offered (does not comply with §4 (5) GlüStV).
Would be great if someone could help me
LG Günni
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Sports betting is currently tolerated in Germany due to the ECJ ruling. There is also 5% betting tax levied. By 2020, online sports betting should probably also finally be regulated, at least that was the idea in the last Minister President Conference on the subject in March 2019
Some providers also distinguish between sports betting and online casinos. On sunmaker.de, for example, only the sports section is displayed, so you would be on the safe side
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Are sports betting now also prohibited?
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Do you think the regulation will prove useful? I am there but rather critical...
Believe that will be interpreted but very much for the gambling providers
I have just relatively much money lying and look me straight info together as it looks with the legal situation.
Is there regarding a chargeback what feasible? So now explicitly for sports betting.
LG
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Are sports betting now also prohibited?
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No, sports betting is tolerated and does not fall under "illegal" gambling. As I said, it is a previously tolerated gray area. In a case before Berlin courts it was even argued that the gambling providers used also offered sports betting in addition to casino games. From the court's point of view, the player's bank could therefore not even know what the money was ultimately used for
As far as the sense of regulation is concerned, we will see when the time comes. It would certainly be possible to draft good regulations that would strengthen Player protection, but this would require a strong regulatory authority along the lines of the UK Gambling Commission. Whether such an authority can be established in Germany in a relatively short time remains questionable. When I look at the current changes to the technical requirements for gaming arcades, they are no further ahead than before - something that politicians seem to have realized in the meantime.
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Nevertheless, they are not legal
There is at least no legally definitive solution to which one could refer, is there?
could refer to, right?
Court rulings can vary, depending on the circumstances of the case,
so they do not necessarily have the character of instructions.
Similar to the chargeback. If I want to play for play money, as suggested in the advertising
suggested in the advertisement, I am then "secretly" redirected to the page with real money, thus I am
i would not know how a verdict would look like. Probably
rather per player, if he can prove this credibly. Ignorance does not protect from punishment
but the illegal redirection to a real money gambling site might be very close to fraud / deception
Fraud / deception. However, this would affect not so much the banks as the casino operators
the casino operators.
Of course, if I appear in court and want to get my money back, even though I knew
knew about the punishability, and also consciously selected a real gambling money side,
it will be rejected, of course. That's why this is a detail that has unfortunately not yet been made public
has not yet been made public, and it is also not apparent from the judgment exactly what grounds the
on which the plaintiffs based their claims.
If I have overlooked something, please provide it!
That's why I'd be interested to hear the plaintiffs' arguments. So far I could only read out,
that they wanted to pass the responsibility on to the banks
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Are sports betting now also prohibited?
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You can't charge back sports bets, that only works for money that has flowed into online slots, Roulette, ....
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