Quckie wrote on 07/14/2019 23:39: The saddest part is that they could just keep going without consequences.
I mean a 17 year old advertises a casino....That then blows up and no one cares.
They just wait until he is 18 and continue without punishment.
The difficulty is to prove this. He had not registered there himself, but the father has registered and given the son "his" player and his Affiliate accounts. There is still the question whether Lapalingo knew about it or not. Whether there was this deliberate meeting or not. This will probably never be proven and maybe the thread creator lied on this point out of anger. Unfortunately, one does not know.
If we assume that Lapalingo knew nothing about it, then Lapalingo acted correctly by blocking the account.
Quckie wrote on 07/14/2019 at 23:39: So if here some saleswoman at the cash register sells alcohol to a minor and that comes out the lady can wrap herself up warmly. Over there in Malta they are laughing their heads off.
If we start from the provable, then this comparison lags. In this case, it is more likely that the father bought a bottle of vodka in the supermarket and gave it to his son to drink at home. The lady saleswoman did nothing wrong, since she could not know that the bottle of vodka would later be drunk by an underage person.
So I don't think anyone in Malta is laughing their heads off. If a casino would knowingly allow underage players, then that would already have very far-reaching consequences. I think even more far-reaching than in Germany, where minors play on Slot machines in kebab stands and pubs every day. This kind of thing happens every day in Germany and much more obviously. However, I have never heard of a kebab shop or pub being closed down because minors were deliberately allowed to use the machines there by Ali Mirdochegal or Herbert Schnapsnase. There's a small fine and that's it. In such cases, the machines are not even removed from the location in question.
I have been running GambleJoe since 2012 and so far this is the only case I know of where a minor played in Online Casinos and was actively supported by his father. Responsible here would be rather the German Jugendamt. When the thread was created, I got tens of emails. People have written letters to the relevant authorities (Jugendamt, Ordnungsamt, Finanzamt and and and) but again, nothing seems to have happened. Itches just no one - neither in Malta, nor in Germany.
Our Zittertante with their clowns have more important things to do and are incapable of simply regulating the crap.
We already had a chancellor who trembled towards the end of his term of office about 75 years ago. That was not so plump for Germany ...
... but back to the topic: I doubt meanwhile strongly that a regulation in Germany would lead to something reasonable. Maybe it would only make things worse. Player protection (offline) is much better in Malta than in Germany. Germany is really extremely badly positioned in terms of player and youth protection in gambling. After all, in Germany, despite self-exclusion, you can continue to gamble in pubs, snack bars, gas stations, etc. - and even with a lower chance of winning. That the protection of minors in practice is not really given, shows this thread quite well: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/sonstiges/sonstiges/wie-alt-wart-ihr-als-ihr-mit-dem-spielen-angefangen-habt-94735/
In my opinion, regulation is not the goal, but rather a ban. The state gambling providers want to protect their revenues and the two large gambling companies or gambling monopolists want to get rid of the competition, according to my observations. That is what it is all about in the final analysis. How can we achieve good regulation with such motives?
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Daniel wrote on 07/15/2019 at 13:20
We already had a chancellor who was shaking towards the end of his term about 75 years ago. That was not so plump for Germany ...
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We already had a chancellor who was shaking towards the end of his term about 75 years ago. That was not so plump for Germany ...
... but back to the topic: by now I strongly doubt that regulation in Germany would lead to anything sensible. Maybe it would only make things worse. Player protection (offline) is much better in Malta than in Germany. Germany is really extremely badly positioned in terms of player and youth protection in gambling. After all, in Germany, despite self-exclusion, you can continue to gamble in pubs, snack bars, gas stations, etc. - and even with a lower chance of winning. That the protection of minors in practice is not really given, shows this thread quite well: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/sonstiges/sonstiges/wie-alt-wart-ihr-als-ihr-mit-dem-spielen-angefangen-habt-94735/
In my opinion, regulation is not the goal, but rather a ban. The state gambling providers want to protect their revenues and the two large gambling companies or gambling monopolists want to get rid of the competition, according to my observations. That is what it is all about in the final analysis. How can we achieve good regulation with such motives?
A brief comment on the protection of minors and Herbert Schnapsnase. I have already witnessed 3 times how a pub had to be closed due to underage gamblers. The fine is also by no means small. We used to gamble with 17/18 always in our regular kebab. At some point the owner said, from now on only 18 year olds. If a minor is caught, it probably costs him 10-15k. Due to such penalties, a small pub in my home town also had to close. Another has lost the license, first for the machines, then even the liquor license and of course had to close.
You can definitely gamble as a minor in Germany in kebab stands or pubs, but most owners don't allow it. And if one is caught, the penalties are quite decent and are also enforced.
Quick note on the point of youth protection and Herbert Schnapsnase. I have already witnessed 3 times how a pub had to be closed due to underage players. The fine is also by no means small. We used to gamble with 17/18 always in our regular kebab. At some point the owner said, from now on only 18 year olds. If a minor is caught, it probably costs him 10-15k. Due to such penalties, a small pub in my home town also had to close. Another has lost the license, first for the machines, then even the liquor license and of course had to close.
You can definitely gamble as a minor in Germany in kebab stands or pubs, but most owners don't allow it. And if one is caught, the penalties are quite decent and are also enforced.
Thanks for the post. I honestly have never really looked into this. However, I also know of a pub that clearly had underage gambling. I guess a complaint went out to the regulatory office one day and from then on, the owner had asked almost everyone for ID. But the machines were still there and the landlord let it slide after a while and was caught again a few years later and the game started all over again. Based on this experience, I thought to myself that in practice not as much happens as one would actually expect.
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oHA. Do you know why?
Unfortunately not, they were streaming earlier, in the middle of the stream was off and the channel is no longer accessible, was 4 years abo, really too bad because they were really Real and generally the atmosphere in the stream as well as the Comunity was very pleasant
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Unfortunately not, they were streaming earlier, in the middle of the stream was off and the channel is no longer accessible, was 4 years abo, really too bad because they were really Real and generally the atmosphere in the stream and the Comunity was very pleasant
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Pictures don't exist in the meantime either.
Too cool
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The difficulty is to prove this. He had not registered there himself, but the father has registered and given the son "his" player and his Affiliate accounts. There is still the question whether Lapalingo knew about it or not. Whether there was this deliberate meeting or not. This will probably never be proven and maybe the thread creator lied on this point out of anger. Unfortunately, one does not know.
If we assume that Lapalingo knew nothing about it, then Lapalingo acted correctly by blocking the account.
If we start from the provable, then this comparison lags. In this case, it is more likely that the father bought a bottle of vodka in the supermarket and gave it to his son to drink at home. The lady saleswoman did nothing wrong, since she could not know that the bottle of vodka would later be drunk by an underage person.
So I don't think anyone in Malta is laughing their heads off. If a casino would knowingly allow underage players, then that would already have very far-reaching consequences. I think even more far-reaching than in Germany, where minors play on Slot machines in kebab stands and pubs every day. This kind of thing happens every day in Germany and much more obviously. However, I have never heard of a kebab shop or pub being closed down because minors were deliberately allowed to use the machines there by Ali Mirdochegal or Herbert Schnapsnase. There's a small fine and that's it. In such cases, the machines are not even removed from the location in question.
I have been running GambleJoe since 2012 and so far this is the only case I know of where a minor played in Online Casinos and was actively supported by his father. Responsible here would be rather the German Jugendamt. When the thread was created, I got tens of emails. People have written letters to the relevant authorities (Jugendamt, Ordnungsamt, Finanzamt and and and) but again, nothing seems to have happened. Itches just no one - neither in Malta, nor in Germany.
We already had a chancellor who trembled towards the end of his term of office about 75 years ago. That was not so plump for Germany ...
... but back to the topic: I doubt meanwhile strongly that a regulation in Germany would lead to something reasonable. Maybe it would only make things worse. Player protection (offline) is much better in Malta than in Germany. Germany is really extremely badly positioned in terms of player and youth protection in gambling. After all, in Germany, despite self-exclusion, you can continue to gamble in pubs, snack bars, gas stations, etc. - and even with a lower chance of winning. That the protection of minors in practice is not really given, shows this thread quite well: https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/sonstiges/sonstiges/wie-alt-wart-ihr-als-ihr-mit-dem-spielen-angefangen-habt-94735/
In my opinion, regulation is not the goal, but rather a ban. The state gambling providers want to protect their revenues and the two large gambling companies or gambling monopolists want to get rid of the competition, according to my observations. That is what it is all about in the final analysis. How can we achieve good regulation with such motives?
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A brief comment on the protection of minors and Herbert Schnapsnase. I have already witnessed 3 times how a pub had to be closed due to underage gamblers. The fine is also by no means small. We used to gamble with 17/18 always in our regular kebab. At some point the owner said, from now on only 18 year olds. If a minor is caught, it probably costs him 10-15k. Due to such penalties, a small pub in my home town also had to close. Another has lost the license, first for the machines, then even the liquor license and of course had to close.
You can definitely gamble as a minor in Germany in kebab stands or pubs, but most owners don't allow it. And if one is caught, the penalties are quite decent and are also enforced.
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Thanks for the post. I honestly have never really looked into this. However, I also know of a pub that clearly had underage gambling. I guess a complaint went out to the regulatory office one day and from then on, the owner had asked almost everyone for ID. But the machines were still there and the landlord let it slide after a while and was caught again a few years later and the game started all over again. Based on this experience, I thought to myself that in practice not as much happens as one would actually expect.
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Unfortunately not, they were streaming earlier, in the middle of the stream was off and the channel is no longer accessible, was 4 years abo, really too bad because they were really Real and generally the atmosphere in the stream as well as the Comunity was very pleasant
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