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7th Jul. 2018, at 08:20 am CEST#21
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Slothot wrote on 03/23/2018 at 11:16 am: I have held physical gold for years as a stopgap and inflation hedge.
Physical gold is then still in the bank and in the event of the coal can be gone quickly.
Why do you actually not want to choose real gold as an investment?
i would always store gold in the household, the state can confiscate it at any time. It was the same with the American financial repression (after WW2 America had a huge Debt mountain). To reduce the mountain of debt they made a limit on the interest (it was always below the inflation limit) and also confiscated gold more or less. In the beginning you had to give the gold and the state bought it (it was below the gold price), consumers who ignored it and you still found gold, these were then confiscated.
This is how Fort Knox was created with the gold reserves of the USA.
I would rather have gold which I can also touch than to own only the shares of the gold price
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7th Jul. 2018, at 09:48 am CEST#23
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Tropper wrote on 21/03/2018 at 10:40: I'm sick of it, yesterday I had a relapse at an online casino (because of private problems) and gambled away a little over 300€ in a few hours.
Everywhere you just get screwed, Book of Dead brings nen scheissdreck and eats only, the other games just as. To me it comes strongly to Manipulation and it has nothing more to do with the AQ. Even if you can not watch it in the long term (n=x years), you're just screwed. Yesterday at Inkibu I wanted to delete my account after the losses but of course they did not want to lose me as a customer and just gave me 4000 seeds. So I bought free spins which of course brought nothing
But if you can just give someone "seeds", or Bonuses can give then you can certainly do much more (profit leverage etc) that is for me manipulation of the highest order.
Spielothek you're just screwed anyway.
In any case, I now wanted to get into online broking and my favorite is Comdirect (am still undecided), there are many traders in the area again and you are flooded with advertising (as with Online Casinos, incredible). I wanted to invest with the appropriate strategy (cost averaging) monthly 50 € in ETF 's and just see if it brings what (long-term). Maybe more, but this crap casino gambling is pure rip-off. Too many question marks and you can manipulate everywhere (background software 's, cookies, ip address?)
Now my question, are there also some people here who invest in stocks and know something?
Would like to exchange ideas.
with kind regards
Tropper
I was until recently, over quite a few years small investor and thought I understand something about stocks . Today I am rid of all my reserves that I had formed for my retirement, and know that I know shit about stocks.
Because of an illness I now receive a disability pension under 700, - Euro, I live only from month to month. Last year at this time my portfolio was still worth about 12000, - Euro, now I'm broke. However, I am myself to blame, because no one has forced me to buy shares. I have essentially traded shares from the DAX and MDAX, because I have lost many years ago, with a Russian share called Yukos once almost everything and did not want to experience something like that again. At that time, Russia Yukos simply expropriated the owner locked up and I was overnight my money, because the share was then worthless. So since then only German shares, so-called blue chips and from medium-sized companies . VW, Deutsche Bank, EON and just Steinhoff . Now I come to the point, I advise you in principle not to buy ETF, shares or even just funds, if you are a small investor, under 20,000, - Euro at your disposal you do not need to start and buy every month for 50, - Euro what, just does not make sense, especially if it is a financial construct, where you can not exactly understand how it works and what costs arise incidentally, I'm talking about issue surcharge, custody fee and even if you sell what, the broker holds the hand. The only one who will have something from your 50,- Euro per month is the financial service provider. If you really want to do something that goes in the direction, but unfortunately only shares come into question, but it is better you keep the money. Unfortunately, it is common today to lie and cheat with the companies whose shareholders you are, or there are external influences in the form of any government directives and you are already your money overnight los, sometimes suffices one who beautifies the balance sheets and you are overnight destitute . All these shares I have mentioned here, I once had in the depot and although they were among the largest German companies, that is meaningless from then on, when they are sued for billions of euros in damages, the companies also itch is clear but pay does the shareholder, because the price goes overnight in the basement. VW - exhaust scandal, Deutsche Bank - lawsuit in the U.S. for 15 billion dollars, EON- energy transition, exit from nuclear energy, Steinhoff ( my death blow, I had 3000 of them, purchase price 3.45 euros ) balance sheet falsification by the CEO, as I said a fraudster is sometimes enough . The value of the Steinhoff share yesterday 0.10 euros . Conclusion save your money , falling on your face is painful and bitter .
So I am now with finvesto and pay 15€ annual Deposit fee for 1 position.
The transaction costs are 0.02% of the volume + the running costs of the etf 's, which is apparent in the kiid.
Stocks would be zz risky to me but I don't see the problem with an etf. it has at least 1600 positions with me and is widely scattered around the world.
I can give you the isin if you are interested but I wanted anyway in the future to a fee consultant (costs about 3800€) to manage a nettopolice with institutional investments. It is the best construct to have provision for old age...
But I'm sorry that you have speculated and lost almost everything , something one hears very reluctantly
If I invest the money in the bank, the shit inflation + the bank fee eats my money gradually down. It is not worth it, even under the pillow it is nibbled by inflation...
The 50€ monthly is the cost average strategy (average cost effect) and I think I am well on the way with an etf.
Wolfram wrote on 07/07/2018 at 09:48 I was until recently, over quite a few years small investor and thought I know something about stocks . Today I am rid of all my reserves that I had formed for my retirement and know that I know shit about stocks .
Because of an illness I now receive a disability pension under 700, - euros, I live only from month to month. Last year at this time, my portfolio was still worth about 12000, - Euro, now I'm broke. However, I am myself to blame, because no one has forced me to buy shares. I have essentially traded shares from the DAX and MDAX, because I have lost many years ago, with a Russian share called Yukos once almost everything and did not want to experience something like that again. At that time, Russia Yukos simply expropriated the owner locked up and I was overnight my money, because the share was then worthless. So since then only German shares, so-called blue chips and from medium-sized companies . VW, Deutsche Bank, EON and just Steinhoff . Now I come to the point, I advise you in principle not to buy ETF, shares or even just funds, if you are a small investor, under 20,000, - Euro at your disposal you do not need to start and buy every month for 50, - Euro what, just does not make sense, especially if it is a financial construct, where you can not exactly understand how it works and what costs arise incidentally, I'm talking about issue surcharge, custody fee and even if you sell what, the broker holds the hand. The only one who will have something from your 50,- Euro per month is the financial service provider. If you really want to do something that goes in the direction, but unfortunately only shares come into question, but it is better you keep the money. Unfortunately, it is common today to lie and cheat with the companies whose shareholders you are, or there are external influences in the form of any government directives and you are already your money overnight los, sometimes suffices one who beautifies the balance sheets and you are overnight destitute . All these shares I have mentioned here, I had once in the depot and although they were among the largest German companies, that is meaningless from then on, when they are sued for billions of euros in damages, the companies also itch is clear but pay does the shareholder, because the price goes overnight in the basement. VW - exhaust scandal, Deutsche Bank - lawsuit in the U.S. for 15 billion dollars, EON- energy transition, exit from nuclear energy, Steinhoff ( my death blow, I had 3000 of them, purchase price 3.45 euros ) balance sheet falsification by the CEO, as I said a fraudster is sometimes enough . The value of the Steinhoff share yesterday 0.10 euros . Conclusion save your money , falling on your face is painful and bitter .
tur me really sorry for you with the loss, shares sin a hard business and almost everyone thinks he knows it from what is of course not so even daytrader never have everything under control.
I also find stock market transactions interesting and have been trading for some time.
For the first time, I would keep my hands off CFDs and things where you only bet and don't actually own anything. Especially not with levers.
Buying shares via an "online bank" is a good option here. Lower fees, lightning fast trading.
You can analyze any ratios and trade according to them, but the best results I had when I simply followed my gut feeling.
You have to have the right instinct and strike when an opportunity presents itself. And don't get too greedy.
Tip: There is much, much more than just the Dax or MDax. Look internationally.
When trading, discipline and self-control are the be-all and end-all.
So if you are already addicted to gambling, I advise you not to do it, because otherwise you will fall into a kind of gambling when trading stocks, which is also counterproductive.
i have traded in the forex area (currencies) once some time and I came to stock trading, but must say that in forex trading brings more because you can acquire the knowledge of what affects the market right now much easier. the most profitable was for the trade in gold when the price has fallen sharply a few years ago
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18th Oct. 2021, at 09:34 am CEST#30
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Since June, I have also been investing in two ETFs with a classic 70/30 ratio. MSCI World/EM Markets.
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Physical gold is then still in the bank and in the event of the coal can be gone quickly.
Why do you actually not want to choose real gold as an investment?
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This is how Fort Knox was created with the gold reserves of the USA.
I would rather have gold which I can also touch than to own only the shares of the gold price
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I was until recently, over quite a few years small investor and thought I understand something about stocks . Today I am rid of all my reserves that I had formed for my retirement, and know that I know shit about stocks.
Because of an illness I now receive a disability pension under 700, - Euro, I live only from month to month. Last year at this time my portfolio was still worth about 12000, - Euro, now I'm broke. However, I am myself to blame, because no one has forced me to buy shares. I have essentially traded shares from the DAX and MDAX, because I have lost many years ago, with a Russian share called Yukos once almost everything and did not want to experience something like that again. At that time, Russia Yukos simply expropriated the owner locked up and I was overnight my money, because the share was then worthless. So since then only German shares, so-called blue chips and from medium-sized companies . VW, Deutsche Bank, EON and just Steinhoff . Now I come to the point, I advise you in principle not to buy ETF, shares or even just funds, if you are a small investor, under 20,000, - Euro at your disposal you do not need to start and buy every month for 50, - Euro what, just does not make sense, especially if it is a financial construct, where you can not exactly understand how it works and what costs arise incidentally, I'm talking about issue surcharge, custody fee and even if you sell what, the broker holds the hand. The only one who will have something from your 50,- Euro per month is the financial service provider. If you really want to do something that goes in the direction, but unfortunately only shares come into question, but it is better you keep the money. Unfortunately, it is common today to lie and cheat with the companies whose shareholders you are, or there are external influences in the form of any government directives and you are already your money overnight los, sometimes suffices one who beautifies the balance sheets and you are overnight destitute . All these shares I have mentioned here, I once had in the depot and although they were among the largest German companies, that is meaningless from then on, when they are sued for billions of euros in damages, the companies also itch is clear but pay does the shareholder, because the price goes overnight in the basement. VW - exhaust scandal, Deutsche Bank - lawsuit in the U.S. for 15 billion dollars, EON- energy transition, exit from nuclear energy, Steinhoff ( my death blow, I had 3000 of them, purchase price 3.45 euros ) balance sheet falsification by the CEO, as I said a fraudster is sometimes enough . The value of the Steinhoff share yesterday 0.10 euros . Conclusion save your money , falling on your face is painful and bitter .
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The transaction costs are 0.02% of the volume + the running costs of the etf 's, which is apparent in the kiid.
Stocks would be zz risky to me but I don't see the problem with an etf. it has at least 1600 positions with me and is widely scattered around the world.
I can give you the isin if you are interested but I wanted anyway in the future to a fee consultant (costs about 3800€) to manage a nettopolice with institutional investments. It is the best construct to have provision for old age...
But I'm sorry that you have speculated and lost almost everything , something one hears very reluctantly
If I invest the money in the bank, the shit inflation + the bank fee eats my money gradually down. It is not worth it, even under the pillow it is nibbled by inflation...
The 50€ monthly is the cost average strategy (average cost effect) and I think I am well on the way with an etf.
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tur me really sorry for you with the loss, shares sin a hard business and almost everyone thinks he knows it from what is of course not so even daytrader never have everything under control.
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For the first time, I would keep my hands off CFDs and things where you only bet and don't actually own anything. Especially not with levers.
Buying shares via an "online bank" is a good option here. Lower fees, lightning fast trading.
You can analyze any ratios and trade according to them, but the best results I had when I simply followed my gut feeling.
You have to have the right instinct and strike when an opportunity presents itself. And don't get too greedy.
Tip: There is much, much more than just the Dax or MDax. Look internationally.
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So if you are already addicted to gambling, I advise you not to do it, because otherwise you will fall into a kind of gambling when trading stocks, which is also counterproductive.
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