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18th Apr. 2021, at 01:13 am CEST#31
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You don't really understand what RTP is. Let me explain what it means. Return to Player means back to the player and you should understand it that way. Means as much as depending on the Provider and slot for example 94% of the losses must be paid to the player at some point again. But this does not apply to one player but to all players. Means if in the whole world players lose 4.000.000€ 96% of the 4.000.000€ will be paid back to all players. Unfortunately this means that some players will not win even if they play Legacy of Dead for 1 year. You just have to choose the right time. It can change from hour to hour. My problem is that no matter when I play Play'n Go, I never get anything that puts me in the plus range. With Amatic, however, it is not so the numbers now and then really nice wins from. But Play'n Go no that does not go at all. My highest win at Play'n Go in these 8 years online casino were once 3 times 1200€ and that was it. And that really borders on fraud. Because I am not a player who plays with small stakes. My smallest bet is 1€. Just the other day I played with a colleague and have received together on 4 € free spins and he is not as experienced as I am. I have then directly told him he should please not be happy. He said why on 4€ subject legacy of dead free spins. I then so wait because I know the slots of Play'n Go only very well. We got Q as a symbol and then it really started to get criminal not even 4 pieces. All the time only 3bsymbols Q and in the end the free spins paid out 104€. Then we played Ramses Book and got on 3€ free spins he says again we shaved. I then again wait for after all after 100€ loss 170€ in the free spins received. But at least not as heartless as Play'n Go . And that is where I mean it is fraud. Because go times with 4€ in a spielo in the free spins and you will never get only 100€
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18th Apr. 2021, at 01:23 am CEST#32
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I have decided to stop I had not played for months. But just once I wanted to give it a chance without me people. I just can not deny myself that we players are downright cheated and the government classifies such a thing as Seriös or legal. I will in the future only sports betting.
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18th Apr. 2021, at 09:33 am CEST#33
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Hello Santa21, as I have already described myself, this is always the same process. When it comes to a Mega Win, the slots also react differently. At Playngo it is already known before the free spins how high your resulting win is, the rest is just entertainment.
As you described, the right timing is crucial. You could also program the slots so that there are only free spins when a minimum of 1000x results, but then fewer would play because that takes forever and the entertainment is missing...
The regulated casinos like videoslotts, Mr Vegas and Co have become the biggest shit... There you may make only max 1€ bet and also not spin so fast, but you lose in these casinos significantly more than in others where there are not these rules and I can spin on 10s.
Because the odds are so bad in these casinos with the rules. No matter what game, no matter what stake, no matter how much you deposit. It just comes nix nix and again nix! You don't even get 10€ over your deposit.... Not even if you Deposit the whole day again and again 100€. Eternally no free spins, in any game. If you get some then there's no wins... Einfsch always the same. Today again burned a few hundred at Mr Vegas... Almost only played on 20 cents so that the money is not so fast gone. Denkste.. 300€ in a short time gone. Free spins I could count on one hand... Not even 10€ paid the free spins... Many games tried... Simply nothing to do. Not even been over my deposit.
For me, this is ne very big fooling because of player protection... Rather to fleece the players even more and have to pay even rarer wins. This is no longer a coincidence and also no "yes can sometimes happen, is just gambling"
NO! This is even more criminal than the other casinos that do not get a German license and do not follow these rules. So what may soon take place legally? In my opinion, this is even more illegal than anything else! And no I do not have einfsch times ne pechsträhne, but I make every month at Mr Vegas and videoslotts each between 500 € and 1000 € loss... Together between 1k to 2k loss per month only at these two casinos. And that every month! It just never comes in what worth mentioning. That one would be in plus for a month. I think the German players who are only allowed to play restricted are only there to finance players or the wins of others from other countries!
This whole Corona situation at the moment is mercilessly exploited by the online casinos. There is so much money being made at the moment. Much more than before Corona
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20th Apr. 2021, at 12:53 am CEST#35
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Tomi559 wrote on 18.04.2021 at 09:33: Hello Santa21, as I have already described myself, this is always the same process. If it comes times to a Mega Win, the slots also react differently. With Playngo, it is already determined before the free spins, how high your resulting win is, the rest is just entertainment.
As you described, the right timing is crucial. You could also program the slots so that there are only free spins when a minimum of 1000x results, but then fewer would play because that takes forever and the entertainment is missing...
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Maybe, but if you are only ripped off all the time, at some point the players lack money. And believe me, if the providers continue to vulture with the wins, then no one will play in Online Casinos anymore. Because most are either broke or it's too stupid for them, like me. Without big wins in between, it's just no fun. And let's be honest, in game halls there are at least once in a while 500€ wins, with 20 cent bet. Of course, this is also possible online, as with Dead or Alive 2, only I play the game un lied since Dead or Alive 2 is on the market, only once I have won in these 3 years 500 € on 45 cents bet.
What is this honestly. I am really minimum 10000€ with Netent in the minus. But it says when you open the game 96% RTP. Sure 96% goes to 20 players and the rest of the millions of players go away empty handed. The problem is simply that cowboys and the big symbols hardly ever show up. I have never seen 5 cowboys in Book of Dead in 8 years, let alone 4 cowboys in the free games. It's just so rare, it's like the cowboys don't even exist. If the whole thing was serious, then you would have seen at least once in a while with smaller bets 5 heads. Even with 1€ insert nothing and again nothing not even the Pharaohs come 5 times only 4 times. What is this, if want to fool the.
sanata21 wrote on 20.04.2021 at 00:53
Maybe, but if you are only ripped off all the time, at some point the players lack the money. And believe me if the providers so continue with the wins vultures, then no one will play more in online casinos. Because most are either broke or but it's too stupid like me. Without big wins in between, it's just no fun. And let's be honest, in game halls there are at least, now and then times 500 € wins, with 20 cent bet. Of course, this is also possible online with Dead or Alive 2, but I play the game un lied since Dead or Alive 2 is on the market, only once I have won in these 3 years 500 € on 45 cents bet.
What is this all about honestly. I am really minimum 10000€ with Netent in the minus. But it says when you open the game 96% RTP. Sure 96% goes to 20 players and the rest of the millions of players go away empty handed. The problem is simply that cowboys and the big symbols hardly ever show up. I have never seen 5 cowboys in Book of Dead in 8 years, let alone 4 cowboys in the free games. It's just so rare that the cowboys don't even exist. If the whole thing was serious, then you would have seen at least once in a while with smaller bet times 5 heads. Even with 1€ use nothing and again nothing not even the Pharaohs come 5 times only 4 times. What is this if want to fool.
Is just wirlich so!
In any arcade (would they still open) it runs better than it currently only online runs... And there the RTP is actually significantly lower... Only strangely it seems to me rather as if the RTP in the Online Casinos would still be significantly lower... Rather at 30 to 40%
Will play after Corona defitniv also again in the halls, because online you play apparently only against his own ID, which goes further and further downhill
Offline I had also much more often nen Hunni or even 400 won than online.
StarGames times were still okay but what came after is only Plörre
The fact is that you basically don't need to play at casinos that are set up according to the new German regulations. Since then, the wins are simply ridiculous; even if you land a big one, it's usually not even close to being enough to be in the black for the session
But it was also clear; if the operators from Germany only get max. 1 euro per spin and 1000€ per month, then a Pot is formed for the German players and one for the players who are not subject to these restrictions. Thus, the policy has basically once again done a disservice to the players
Especially since every spin made will be taxed in the near future. If that comes, then that's probably it for good.
I hope very much that it comes for all Malta casinos this 5sec regulation.
Then the German market is dead, because no one has more Bock.
And Curacao I do not play.
As for playnGo, I often play Reactoonz.
Maybe lately more than before.
I used to take screenshots when I hit 15 pinks or 400+ x.
Last year there were between 3-5 screenshots per month.
The last 3 months a total of 2 screenshots.
Currently I have had no garga for about 900 spins, so none at all.
Moonp + Rise are just eating.
BOD Bonuses are a joke. I do not even know when I had the last time
Last time I had Full at lowsymbol. Surely 6 months ago.
Therefore I am glad when the new rules come, then it is easier to stop
definitely easier.
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20th Apr. 2021, at 11:56 am CEST#40
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Hello together,
times to refute the whole thing...
Deposited yesterday in my regular casino 400€ and played for the most part BOD. I have unlogen in 8h, 12x free play had and in the end paid out 1,300€. Were not the big wins at BOD but entertainment.
In the evening then still at a partner casino 300€ deposited and 2x free spins at BOD reingedrückt with 4 books. After 4h (also played other slots) I also had about 1,400€ on the account... coincidence ???
Conclusion:
BOD played with me yesterday totally crazy but the very big wins (+500x) were missing. The biggest win was 250x on 2€ bet
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As you described, the right timing is crucial. You could also program the slots so that there are only free spins when a minimum of 1000x results, but then fewer would play because that takes forever and the entertainment is missing...
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Because the odds are so bad in these casinos with the rules. No matter what game, no matter what stake, no matter how much you deposit. It just comes nix nix and again nix! You don't even get 10€ over your deposit.... Not even if you Deposit the whole day again and again 100€. Eternally no free spins, in any game. If you get some then there's no wins... Einfsch always the same. Today again burned a few hundred at Mr Vegas... Almost only played on 20 cents so that the money is not so fast gone. Denkste.. 300€ in a short time gone. Free spins I could count on one hand... Not even 10€ paid the free spins... Many games tried... Simply nothing to do. Not even been over my deposit.
For me, this is ne very big fooling because of player protection... Rather to fleece the players even more and have to pay even rarer wins. This is no longer a coincidence and also no "yes can sometimes happen, is just gambling"
NO! This is even more criminal than the other casinos that do not get a German license and do not follow these rules. So what may soon take place legally? In my opinion, this is even more illegal than anything else! And no I do not have einfsch times ne pechsträhne, but I make every month at Mr Vegas and videoslotts each between 500 € and 1000 € loss... Together between 1k to 2k loss per month only at these two casinos. And that every month! It just never comes in what worth mentioning. That one would be in plus for a month. I think the German players who are only allowed to play restricted are only there to finance players or the wins of others from other countries!
This whole Corona situation at the moment is mercilessly exploited by the online casinos. There is so much money being made at the moment. Much more than before Corona
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Maybe, but if you are only ripped off all the time, at some point the players lack money. And believe me, if the providers continue to vulture with the wins, then no one will play in Online Casinos anymore. Because most are either broke or it's too stupid for them, like me. Without big wins in between, it's just no fun. And let's be honest, in game halls there are at least once in a while 500€ wins, with 20 cent bet. Of course, this is also possible online, as with Dead or Alive 2, only I play the game un lied since Dead or Alive 2 is on the market, only once I have won in these 3 years 500 € on 45 cents bet.
What is this honestly. I am really minimum 10000€ with Netent in the minus. But it says when you open the game 96% RTP. Sure 96% goes to 20 players and the rest of the millions of players go away empty handed. The problem is simply that cowboys and the big symbols hardly ever show up. I have never seen 5 cowboys in Book of Dead in 8 years, let alone 4 cowboys in the free games. It's just so rare, it's like the cowboys don't even exist. If the whole thing was serious, then you would have seen at least once in a while with smaller bets 5 heads. Even with 1€ insert nothing and again nothing not even the Pharaohs come 5 times only 4 times. What is this, if want to fool the.
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Is just wirlich so!
In any arcade (would they still open) it runs better than it currently only online runs... And there the RTP is actually significantly lower... Only strangely it seems to me rather as if the RTP in the Online Casinos would still be significantly lower... Rather at 30 to 40%
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Offline I had also much more often nen Hunni or even 400 won than online.
StarGames times were still okay but what came after is only Plörre
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But it was also clear; if the operators from Germany only get max. 1 euro per spin and 1000€ per month, then a Pot is formed for the German players and one for the players who are not subject to these restrictions. Thus, the policy has basically once again done a disservice to the players
Especially since every spin made will be taxed in the near future. If that comes, then that's probably it for good.
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Then the German market is dead, because no one has more Bock.
And Curacao I do not play.
As for playnGo, I often play Reactoonz.
Maybe lately more than before.
I used to take screenshots when I hit 15 pinks or 400+ x.
Last year there were between 3-5 screenshots per month.
The last 3 months a total of 2 screenshots.
Currently I have had no garga for about 900 spins, so none at all.
Moonp + Rise are just eating.
BOD Bonuses are a joke. I do not even know when I had the last time
Last time I had Full at lowsymbol. Surely 6 months ago.
Therefore I am glad when the new rules come, then it is easier to stop
definitely easier.
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times to refute the whole thing...
Deposited yesterday in my regular casino 400€ and played for the most part BOD. I have unlogen in 8h, 12x free play had and in the end paid out 1,300€. Were not the big wins at BOD but entertainment.
In the evening then still at a partner casino 300€ deposited and 2x free spins at BOD reingedrückt with 4 books. After 4h (also played other slots) I also had about 1,400€ on the account... coincidence ???
Conclusion:
BOD played with me yesterday totally crazy but the very big wins (+500x) were missing. The biggest win was 250x on 2€ bet
Greetings
Tomi559
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