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Online Casinos in general: Chargeback then win? (Page 6)

Topic created on 13th Aug. 2020 | Page: 6 of 8 | Answers: 79 | Views: 15,471
Daniel0827
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 07:23 pm CEST#51
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Iseedeadpeople wrote on 08/25/2020 at 7:13 pm
from --> pocketing <-- kann ja hier nicht die rede sein denn du schuldest es ihnen doch immer noch oder?

und das sich ein oc oder wettanbieter nicht darauf einlässt wenn einer schreibt, sinngemäss -->you posted it back then, sorry now but please deduct it from the</--> win <-- kann ja hier nicht die rede sein denn du schuldest es ihnen doch immer noch oder?

und das sich ein oc oder wettanbieter nicht darauf einlässt wenn einer schreibt, sinngemäss -->and pay me the rest.

I also meant pocketed (which would be correct) and followed through with the same action
And secondly, I'm just saying that now, but I've been preaching something else to them for 14 days. The thing could have already been paid on 11 August when I took up the contact from me and the account, As announced in at least five emails from Tipico, After payment can simply be reopened.

What they have written in the emails completely contradicts what they ultimately perform.

And as already mentioned in a previous mail. Also the fact that I exactly since Saturday can no longer access the account at all was yet all calculation. Before I could at least still see everything and thus had quasi a proof in the hand what really exists on the account. On Saturday of all days, one day before the final, my access was completely deactivated. All coincidence of course

In addition, the explanation is completely missing, why you suddenly no longer want to have the 190 €, which were previously so important and because of which the account access was restricted. That's why I say my initial behavior was bad, but what they are doing now is at least as bad.
Breach of promise is called such a thing

Have them now first of all asked me to send a screenshot of what I'm on my account, so that I have in relation to the MGA something in the Handhabe</-->

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ruhrpott
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 09:35 pm CEST#52
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It's really funny and sad at the same time to see how incredibly arrogant some people walk through the world
You, the one who with full awareness booked back his deposits, now accuse the casino of breach of promise? If you think you have to use words like "breach of promise", then switch on your brain cells for a moment and think about what word you gave to the casino when you made your deposits
At the same time you demand (on what basis do you think you can make demands?) the casino to send you screenshots to see what is on your account?
The MGA will laugh at you, and, I hope, not even reply
It's all so incredibly brazen now that you've won your bet, it's beyond words.

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Daniel0827
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 09:43 pm CEST#53
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ruhrpott wrote on 25.08.2020 at 21:35: It is really funny and sad at the same time to see how incredibly arrogant some walk through the world
You, the one who with full awareness reversed his deposits, now accuse the casino of breach of word? If you think you have to use words like "breach of promise", then switch on your brain cells for a moment and think about what word you gave to the casino when you made your deposits
At the same time you demand (on what basis do you think you can make demands?) the casino to send you screenshots to see what is on your account?
The MGA will laugh at you, and, I hope, not even reply
It's all so incredibly brazen now that you've won your bet, it's beyond words.


Might already make sense to read all my posts before commenting. I have now described several times how the course was and that I offered the repayment long before the bet was won. Even earlier than to offer it on 11 August was unfortunately not possible, because I was not even informed that my account is no longer usable! But also no Bock to explain now for each individual here constantly again the same story

And yes completely independent of my deposits (I have acknowledged my mistake) it is breach of promise to tell me for two weeks the account will be reopened after payment and then suddenly swing around, because you suddenly see that there would still be something to pay out on the account.

And by the way, yes I am very well of the opinion that I am entitled to a screenshot, since it is my data. Access to the account should be guaranteed, even if all usable functions are excluded

But in the end it is a clear draw. I stole from her, she steals from me. That's probably how the world works.
I steal an apple from you, want to give it back to you, but you don't accept it and steal five apples from me in return

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ruhrpott
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25th Aug. 2020, at 09:49 pm CEST#54
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Daniel0827 wrote on 25/08/2020 at 21:43
Might already make sense to read all my posts before commenting. I have now described several times how the course was and that I offered the repayment long before the bet was won. Even earlier than to offer it on 11 August was unfortunately not possible, because I was not even informed that my account is no longer usable! But also no Bock, now for each individual here constantly explain the same story again

And yes completely independent of my deposits (I have acknowledged my mistake) it is breach of promise to tell me for two weeks the account will be reopened after payment and then suddenly swing around, because you suddenly see that there on the account but still what would be paid out.

But in the end it is a clear draw. I stole from her, she steals from me. That's probably how the world works

I have already read the thread completely, don't worry.

No, it isn't. At the end of the day, you only got statements from chat/support before, now, and I'm quite sure of this, management will have dealt with it and they will have come to the conclusion that what support told you is not sufficient and that they will now act differently. Quite normal business, quite normal behavior. In the end, the boss/management decides on difficult matters.

And how you can get the idea that this should be a "draw" is still completely beyond me. You knowingly cheated the casino. Everything that comes after that is completely irrelevant, because with your fraud any business relationship has dissolved and you no longer need to know any right on your side.

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Daniel0827
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 09:53 pm CEST#55
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And to add to that. The casino is in principle completely in the right I have never disputed. Only they could have told me clearly two weeks ago: we do not care about the 190 €, is now their bad luck their account is no longer opened and done. Instead, they suggest that everything is in the clear when I pay back the money steals me at least 2-3 hours of my life for e-mail and phone calls and makes in the end but the world as you like it🤷♂️

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ruhrpott
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25th Aug. 2020, at 09:55 pm CEST#56
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Daniel0827 wrote on 25.08.2020 at 21:53: And to add to that. The casino is in principle completely in the right I have never disputed. Only they could have told me clearly two weeks ago: we do not care about the 190 €, is now their bad luck their account is no longer opened and done. Instead, you suggest that everything is in the clear if I pay back the money steals me at least 2-3 hours of my life for e-mail and phone calls and makes in the end but the world as you like it🤷♂️

And again: You push the responsibility again in the direction of the casino. The bad guys, they stole 2-3 hours of your time, you could have said something sooner.

They don't have to do anything. Okay, maybe give you a kick in the ass for your chargeback, but otherwise....

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Daniel0827
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 09:58 pm CEST#57
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ruhrpott wrote on 25.08.2020 at 21:49

I already read the thread completely, don't worry.

No it isn't. At the end of the day you only got statements from chat/support before, now, and I'm quite sure of this, the management will have dealt with it and they then came to the conclusion that what support told you is not sufficient and that they will now act differently. Quite normal business, quite normal behavior. In the end, the boss/management decides on difficult matters.

And how you can get the idea that this should be a "draw" is still completely beyond me. You knowingly cheated the casino. Everything that comes after that is completely irrelevant, because with your fraud any business relationship has dissolved and you no longer need to know any right on your side.

So even though I have only had a few chargebacks or direct debits in my life, this has never dissolved a business relationship, but rather it is first tried to create clarification. But maybe it's different in this industry. In the end, it will all be resolved anyway, because it costs me too much time and I don't believe that the Provider will move another step

Is also not a really large sum of therefore At the end hook on it and on it goes

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Daniel0827
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 10:01 pm CEST#58
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ruhrpott wrote on 25.08.2020 at 21:55

And again: You push the responsibility also thereby again in the direction of the casino. The bad ones, they stole 2-3 hours of your time, you could have said something sooner.

They don't have to do anything. Okay, maybe give you a kick in the ass for your chargeback, but otherwise....

Factually wrong, I present it as it is, because they stole my time. Exactly the e-mail from today I could have just received two weeks ago and thus that would have been clarified. But that's exactly what I put under the casino, that after the process as I could see him concretely only then was finally reacted after it was clear that there would still be what to pay out.I even go so far as to say that my account would have been reopened long ago and a way would have been found to pay the sum, there would not have been the open weather. I believe that the just in these difficult cases are very well aware of what is going on there so temporally

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ruhrpott
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25th Aug. 2020, at 10:02 pm CEST#59
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Within 10 minutes from "I want screenshots to submit it to the MGA" to "will resolve anyway as it takes too much time".
Well then

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ruhrpott
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Chargeback then win?

25th Aug. 2020, at 10:06 pm CEST#60
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Daniel0827 wrote on 25/08/2020 at 22:01
Factually wrong, I put it as it is, because time was stolen from me. Exactly the email from today I could have just received two weeks ago and thus that would have been clarified. But that's exactly what I put under the casino, that after the process as I could see him concretely only then was finally reacted after it was clear that there would still be what to pay out.I even go so far as to say that my account would have been reopened long ago and a way would have been found to pay the sum, there would not have been the open weather. I do believe that they know exactly what is going on with these difficult cases

You just don't understand that it was your fault and you don't have the right to say anything bad about the casino. Had you simply not booked back the money and especially not then always further by umpteen contact attempts to clear your conscience so far to come to the coal of the bet somehow, you would not have "lost" a single minute.

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