If you didn't care you wouldn't have created a topic...
So again, since some don't seem to get it yet. I don't care about the money I gambled, I don't need it. Otherwise I would not have used it for gambling. And no, I am not a gambling addict.
What I do care about is the unclear legal situation regarding the Deposit limit and that you are (apparently) lied to by Betsson's support. Whether I get the 1000€ back or not, I'm just interested in the legal situation and how likely success would be in a lawsuit. Thank you.
Edit: "Then try to sue the casino then you know how the legal situation is" - I thought a forum is there to exchange and inform? If this is not the case, you can delete the thread again.
joker6626 wrote on 10/30/2020 at 09:34 AM
So again, since some don't seem to get it yet. I don't care about the money I gambled, I don't need it. Otherwise I would not have used it to gamble. And no, I'm not a gambling addict either.
What I do care about is the unclear legal situation regarding the Deposit limit and that you are (apparently) lied to by Betsson's support. Whether I get the 1000€ back or not, I'm just interested in the legal situation and how likely success would be in a lawsuit. Thank you.
Edit: "Then try to sue the casino then you know how the legal situation is" - I thought a forum is there to exchange and inform? If this is not the case, you can delete the thread again.
I do not understand this 100% is but shit no matter how much you can deposit...
It is a temporary solution, ie the casinos are not licensed in DE, this means that deposit limit anyway first not subject to legal requirements. Even if 200k had deposited you would get nothing back, irrelevant is what Betsson tells you, since there is no basis for the provisions
There is always talk of chance, etc., whether you win or not. But I have there times ne understanding question. At some point every casino starts fresh. The operator first invests X amount, let's assume 200,000 euros. Then the people start to play. Now it MAY not happen that someone or even several people win more than this cash Deposit at once, in extreme cases it could happen that someone wins 250,000 euros. The operator would not have this money. And that the simply trust in good luck I can not imagine.
So there must be a barrier built in somewhere, so that this can not happen or how do you see it?
I don't understand this 100% doesn't give a shit how much you can deposit...
It is a temporary solution, ie the casinos are not licensed in DE, does that mean that Deposit limit is not subject to legal requirements first anyway. Even if 200k had deposited you would get nothing back, irrelevant is what Betsson tells you, since there is no basis for the provisions.
So if Betsson is not subject to the legal regulations, why am I told that the deposit limit of 1000 euros only applies to new customers?
The regulations exist and the casinos that want to get a license already have to comply with them. Otherwise gibts next summer no license in Germany
joker6626 wrote on 30.10.2020 at 09:49
So if Betsson is not subject to the legal regulations, why am I being told that the 1000 euro Deposit limit only applies to new customers?
The regulations exist and the casinos that want to get a license already have to comply with them now. Otherwise gibts next summer no license in Germany.
Exactly. In a year this act (if the casino has the German gambling license) would be illegal and I think also you would have good chances to get your money.
However, at the moment we are in a TRANSITION PHASE. That means the online casino doesn't have to do anything! They can follow the rules to get the license next year, but they don't have to. Whereby it is not even certain whether casinos that do not comply today actually can not get a license. I think times they just have to take a little more money in hand.
In summary: I do not think you have a chance to see your money neither
I see it this way, it is still a gray area --- so you have no legal recourse. The casinos that want to get a permit in Germany try to adhere to a few guidelines. But what goes on in reality interests "yet" no sow. Think the money you can simply write off.
Xestery wrote on 30.10.2020 at 09:46: There is always talk of chance, etc., whether you win or not. But I have a question of understanding. At some point, every casino starts fresh. The operator first invests X amount, let's assume 200,000 euros. Then the people start to play. Now it MAY not happen that someone or even several people win more than this cash Deposit at once, in extreme cases it could happen that someone wins 250,000 euros. The operator would not have this money. And that the simply trust in good luck I can not imagine.
So there must be a barrier built in somewhere, so that this can not happen or how do you see it?
The casinos secure themselves.
Why else would there be a weekly or monthly payout limit?
i deposited at Betsson since 15.10. almost 2000 euros and of course lost (otherwise there would probably not be the thread )
When asked in the Live Chat, how it looks like with the new rules from 15.10. I was told that the Deposit limit of 1000 euros only applies to new customers from 15.10., which I can actually hardly imagine
In addition, I was told that more than 4 Poker tables can still be played at the same time, which is definitely not true, I had tried, so I'm a little skeptical about the statement that the 1000 euro limit only applies to new customers.
Can I claim back everything that goes over the 1000€? What is the legal situation? Know me there unfortunately not so really well and maybe someone with a little more idea can help me.
Thank you!
because of such suchtis like you we can no longer play live tables and have to annoy us even with 1000 max bet and since 2018 also no longer deposit with PayPal and and and.... People leave that look for you another hobby! Now he wants his Taui back because he thinks that Betsson has done something illegal! That's just like if you ordered from his Dealer 1 kilo of coke it then within 1 week squandered and him then says hä wait a minute I want my money back you have done something illegal!
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So again, since some don't seem to get it yet. I don't care about the money I gambled, I don't need it. Otherwise I would not have used it for gambling. And no, I am not a gambling addict.
What I do care about is the unclear legal situation regarding the Deposit limit and that you are (apparently) lied to by Betsson's support. Whether I get the 1000€ back or not, I'm just interested in the legal situation and how likely success would be in a lawsuit. Thank you.
Edit: "Then try to sue the casino then you know how the legal situation is" - I thought a forum is there to exchange and inform? If this is not the case, you can delete the thread again.
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You would have to ask the question in various lawyer forums. Since you have me security much more success
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I do not understand this 100% is but shit no matter how much you can deposit...
It is a temporary solution, ie the casinos are not licensed in DE, this means that deposit limit anyway first not subject to legal requirements. Even if 200k had deposited you would get nothing back, irrelevant is what Betsson tells you, since there is no basis for the provisions
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?
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So there must be a barrier built in somewhere, so that this can not happen or how do you see it?
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Get a lawyer's help, then you'll be smarter
If you do not care about the money, why do you worry about the legal charge?
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So if Betsson is not subject to the legal regulations, why am I told that the deposit limit of 1000 euros only applies to new customers?
The regulations exist and the casinos that want to get a license already have to comply with them. Otherwise gibts next summer no license in Germany
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Exactly. In a year this act (if the casino has the German gambling license) would be illegal and I think also you would have good chances to get your money.
However, at the moment we are in a TRANSITION PHASE. That means the online casino doesn't have to do anything! They can follow the rules to get the license next year, but they don't have to. Whereby it is not even certain whether casinos that do not comply today actually can not get a license. I think times they just have to take a little more money in hand.
In summary: I do not think you have a chance to see your money neither
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Almost 2000€ deposit since 15.10. - Money back?
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The casinos secure themselves.
Why else would there be a weekly or monthly payout limit?
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because of such suchtis like you we can no longer play live tables and have to annoy us even with 1000 max bet and since 2018 also no longer deposit with PayPal and and and.... People leave that look for you another hobby! Now he wants his Taui back because he thinks that Betsson has done something illegal! That's just like if you ordered from his Dealer 1 kilo of coke it then within 1 week squandered and him then says hä wait a minute I want my money back you have done something illegal!
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