Well, Royal says OCT is fake, you say no it is not.
If you now approach this core statement impartially, you have no way to find out which of you two is now telling "the truth". And you both support your position with statements of which again the other one claims it is a lie,
Since you find "Their videos and streams I find with the most interesting and authentic" indicates that you have quite a tunnel vision or possibly part of the "team" are.
But I don't always want to complain here and give a positive counterexample for authenticity and help myself from the current Streamer article by GambleJoe which I like to criticize. There is a streamer named Jannowitz90 mentioned and I was irritated because I did not know the yet, especially since the other streamers described there fall into the "suspicious" category.
Conscientious as I am, I looked at the (few) earlier broadcasts (actually skimmed, I admit that I was looking for the hair in the soup) and see someone who plays normally like everyone else - something I would call authentic and not the "show" that most slotstreamers deliver.
Well as I said normal like everyone you can sign up there at the casinos as an affiliate
No, just at Wildz or Caxino not everyone can sign up ( or yes, but are rejected if no appropriate marketing channel is available) Small streamers or website operators are categorically excluded by Caxino, for example.
By the way, your wording "and the new brand of Rootz ltd. = Caxino" suggests your interests as an Affiliate - no "fan" or normal player with a neutral position expresses himself in this way, but that's just by the way.
3. That's not what I meant to say.
Not to be angry, but I think that was the reason to mention this.
4. I am not a "big" fan of the law.
Why not ? After all, you have thrown but directly with paragraphs around you - the same applies to the "documentation of the post". So you go if you want to represent directly a "Do not mess with me" attitude. Anyone who is somewhat deeper familiar with this topic knows that falls into the category of "dogs that bark..." and it does not come to a charge (let alone to a judgment)
6. You can ask him yourself, if you are interested?
Well, he wants to be 100% authentic, he has to come up with it himself. And of course I mean Calvin.
7. So either I have formulated myself wrongly or you have misunderstood me. First of all, what are royal's favorites?
You're right, that's my mistake - I hadn't considered that some posts in this thread have already been deleted.
so slowly it makes me even fun to comment here publicly and actively.
i am first passive again
You are quite f**kle
Between the two sentences I have übrigends only read that you defend OCT to notice immediately afterwards that you have exactly to this no desire at all...
first of all, I find our contributions here constructive compared to previous contributions. Here is exchanged and facts are addressed. I think that goes in a good direction so I enjoy it. I would like to say something about each of your statements, but I lack the time because I'm at work. Also, how can you quote every single part ? And not always only the last part of a contribution of the forewriter? Have grad no time to herrausfinden but the way you do it I find it great.
Am tonight then at the start until after
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Tolga wrote on 06/24/2020 at 11:04 AM
Good morning everyone,
so slowly it makes me even fun to comment here publicly and actively. So you certainly mean the Slot machine guide, which was never published or sold because in the free test version all content was already shared the video gibts still on youtube I'm looking for it for you out... there is also a statement that the guide is not sold also wants to revise the I've looked at the complete more often then and today again and find the really well done. Small range? I find at this point quite relative.
At the time he had more clicks on youtube daily than and more traffic than today 2020 has every video was directly high in the charts. So for me this is at least medium large reach vorallen since the target audience is exactly hit. Germany + interest slots. So he never "tried" to sell any book. And if he had sold it would have been okay because it is, if you look at the video times about transparent information on gaming behavior and not about any tricks. as I said link I can look up think the video has over 100,000 views can be found so on youtube.
He has always shared openly with his addictions with the audience this realtalk is exactly one of the points why I like to watch maximaleinsatz most because it is simply authentic and real
I can of course understand that people who are not as deep in the material as I find him unbelievable, but if you really look into it, you will see that he is one of the most credible
I think because he is an alcoholic, that is not a point to say that he is untrustworthy. There are many addictions today and you can't put all addicts in the same box. But I didn't understand that you meant he was unbelievably worthy because he was an alcoholic. But you have also written you can understand that there are people.
well in any case, I have no more desire to play here the defender of oct especially since I have the feeling he has no bock on it and to talk about people who are not present is also assi in this sense I'm passive again for now
do it well
Tolga
Then I correct myself, the guide was never put on sale
However, I have followed the whole thing at that time relatively intensively and I am sure that in the beginning the intention was to make a quick buck
I can not prove this of course
How one wants to judge his range, about it can be argued
I see it as a low range, you as a medium range - we would turn in circles, so it makes no sense to go into it further
That he is an alcoholic does not make him a bad person, of course
Nevertheless, he was, at that time, often not really sane and certainly should not have uploaded the one or other video.
Because, even if it doesn't make him a bad person, his credibility is more than scratched by it
Whether he is "real" or "fake" in the end is written in the stars and none of us can answer that with any real certainty
However, and I stand by this, I am of the opinion that someone like him, should not necessarily stand in the limelight
Well, Royal says OCT is fake, you say no he is not.
Now if you approach this core statement with an open mind you have no way of knowing which of you is now telling "the truth". And you both support your position with statements of which again the other one claims it is a lie,
Hello so first I would like to apologize that I only now manage to answer
So I don't know how far you are allowed to post links here, regarding your statement or question for evidence. The first thing I will say is that I don't see many streamers that show their Deposit & withdrawal and betting history, which you can view in the casinos. OCT does this regularly live on AIR. Therefore, I always mention and say before you type your fingers to the bone here you should just watch the latest replays on their Twitch channel or just be there live when you stream on Twitch.tv @onlinecasinostube
But I actually have a proof from the here and now, where you can see in this case it is definitely about REAL MONEY and no stream fake credit. Can I imagine aufjedenfall not because it is a big platform on which the case is still actively clarified.
A response from @Maximaleinsatz his private Instagram account I have also received in the meantime. He says: He no longer comments on these old bagatelles also he has no desire to justify it and it is not necessary to do so
He also says QUOTE via INSTAGRAM PN
"Who thinks that I'm fake should drop by the stream and convince yourself, all the others just want to p**s on my leg and I'm already used to it I've been running social media for almost 13 years in various areas and of course there are always haters, flamers or people who want to put you down. It does not matter how many proofs or ONstream deposits you make there will always be someone who says something negative, reflects or tries to harm me with false statements. From there: I am used to that, that is quite normal vorallen here in our western world, if it is about money shimmers again and again the western ellenbogen society through. I have not necessary diggi me there permanently to justify and have there also no desire to... PS: I will look at that on gamblejoe.com times however gabs there at that time already often times contributions with similar assertions..."
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He says practically the same thing I wrote above everyone should make themselves in the here and now a picture and look in the LIVE stream or think what he wants more you can do there before not
i can not imagine that this is about fake money. Since here many write for evidence I have now posted a link I hope that is in order @gamblejoe.com ??? I have also specifically linked only the askgamblers contribution and not the social media of oct or other streamers.
So...
The wins the replay of the stream and everything was of course streamed LIVE on Twitch and are still available today on their twitch.tv/onlinecasinostube channel. Also other past replays you can yes times look at the are also much shown that it is about real money.
On your other topics I'll go later, I'm working first time further tonight against about 20 clock in the closing time.
There was a single video that purported to show Max from OCT "secretly" playing with bonus money. In my eyes, it wasn't really clear. I can assure you that I "know" pretty much every casino Youtuber and Twitcher and watch the vast majority of them continuously. Max or OCT always seems to be the most real to me. First of all, you have to remember that Max was one of the first to bring casino content to the respective video platforms. Whether it was casino, hall or online. Granted, that doesn't prove his realness
However, Max makes safe more minus than plus in his current streams. So where's the point if he's playing with fakemoney but still making losses all the time? And why should he make fake deposits of 50€?
- Entertainment? Who feels entertained by a stream where almost only losses are made?
- Lure people into the affilate links? Estimated he advises against 50% of the casinos he links. There are almost always references to problems, poor RTP, hassles with Verification and payout (if ever available). It is often said "keep your hands off this crap casino" . Leo and Platin are the only casinos he actually promotes positively. But these are also OCs that have some of the best ratings here and are also continuously advertised here. Also legitimate in my eyes, are good OCs.
Max's answer to the question what tips he can give for OCs: "Don't play at all"
When he plays with Bonus money, he says that too.
Ever thought about the fact that he just has the cash for raw deposits? In the offline videos he wins thousands more often. Does he also play with bonus money? And the offline videos came way before the Twitch streams. That he takes the money for machines from the stream and from affilate links can be excluded. So the only thing left is that he honestly earned (maybe inherited or found) the dough himself. Or he has his own casinos and halls, but then he would have the money to gamble. But I think that this can be ruled out
There were enough situations where he leaked his data at cash in and outs.
I think Max is 99% authentic. (Of course, I can still be wrong, that's why one percent is missing).
Ultimately, every viewer should also question why he wants to see how streamers play with RAW cash. Does it make you feel better? Do you want to see how someone loses his money? Does anyone here think they have a better chance of winning if they follow the Affiliate link of a Streamer who often plays with RAW cash? I think everything does not apply. Everyone here wants to be entertained, in connection with their hobby/addiction
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ImmortalOli wrote on 27.06.2020 at 20:10: Greetings.
There was a single video that purported to show Max from OCT "secretly" playing with bonus money. In my eyes it was not really clear. I can assure you that I "know" pretty much every casino Youtuber and Twitcher and watch the vast majority of them continuously. Max or OCT always seems to be the most real to me. First of all, you have to remember that Max was one of the first to bring casino content to the respective video platforms. Whether it was casino, hall or online. Granted, that doesn't prove his realness
However, Max makes safe more minus than plus in his current streams. So where's the point if he's playing with fakemoney but still making losses all the time? And why should he make fake deposits of 50€?
- Entertainment? Who feels entertained by a stream where almost only losses are made?
- Lure people into the affilate links? Estimated he advises against 50% of the casinos he links. There are almost always references to problems, poor RTP, hassles with Verification and payout (if ever available). It is often said "keep your hands off this crap casino" . Leo and Platin are the only casinos he actually promotes positively. But these are also OCs that have some of the best ratings here and are also continuously advertised here. In my eyes also legitimate, are good OCs.
Max's answer to the question what tips he can give for OCs: "Don't play at all"
When he plays with Bonus money, he says that too.
Ever thought about the fact that he just has the cash for raw deposits? In the offline videos he wins thousands more often. Does he also play with bonus money? And the offline videos came way before the Twitch streams. That he takes the money for machines from the stream and from affilate links can be excluded. So the only thing left is that he honestly earned (maybe inherited or found) the dough himself. Or he has his own casinos and halls, but then he would have the money to gamble. But I think that this can be ruled out
There were enough situations where he leaked his data at cash in and outs.
I think Max is 99% authentic. (Of course, I can still be wrong, that's why one percent is missing).
Ultimately, every viewer should also question why he wants to see how streamers play with RAW cash. Does it make you feel better? Do they want to see how someone loses their money? Does anyone here think they have a better chance of winning if they follow the Affiliate link of a Streamer who often plays with RAW cash? I think everything does not apply. Everyone here wants to be entertained, in connection with their hobby/addiction
ImmortalOli wrote on 27.06.2020 at 21:05
Aaaaall right. Only if you speak out against him, you are not Max. Announcement is out.
i don't mean it that way. Everyone can have his opinion about whoever. I also watch the one or other Streamer and I don't care who plays with which money. It's begrudgement of the viewers. Some sit in front of the streams and can't believe that there are people who Deposit several thousand euros a month or even a day
But I don't have to write such a text here and defend exactly one person like that. That's rather suspicious and doesn't make things any better for him
Jokerboy wrote on 06/27/2020 at 9:13 pm
i don't mean it that way. Everyone can have his opinion about whoever. I also watch one or the other Streamer and I so don't care who is playing with what money. It's begrudgement of the viewers. Some sit in front of the streams and can't believe that there are people who Deposit several thousand euros a month or even a day
But I don't have to write such a text here and defend exactly one person like that. That's rather suspicious and doesn't make things any better for him.
No, I don't HAVE to. But I do it, because that's what this forum is for.
Your reaction shows again that a fair and neutral discussion about it is not possible anyway. I can bring good arguments here and these are then simply ignored and you become unobjective.
Even if I were Max (No, I'm not 🙄), that does not change anything about my statements in the above text.
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Well, Royal says OCT is fake, you say no it is not.
If you now approach this core statement impartially, you have no way to find out which of you two is now telling "the truth". And you both support your position with statements of which again the other one claims it is a lie,
Since you find "Their videos and streams I find with the most interesting and authentic" indicates that you have quite a tunnel vision or possibly part of the "team" are.
But I don't always want to complain here and give a positive counterexample for authenticity and help myself from the current Streamer article by GambleJoe which I like to criticize. There is a streamer named Jannowitz90 mentioned and I was irritated because I did not know the yet, especially since the other streamers described there fall into the "suspicious" category.
Conscientious as I am, I looked at the (few) earlier broadcasts (actually skimmed, I admit that I was looking for the hair in the soup) and see someone who plays normally like everyone else - something I would call authentic and not the "show" that most slotstreamers deliver.
No, just at Wildz or Caxino not everyone can sign up ( or yes, but are rejected if no appropriate marketing channel is available) Small streamers or website operators are categorically excluded by Caxino, for example.
By the way, your wording "and the new brand of Rootz ltd. = Caxino" suggests your interests as an Affiliate - no "fan" or normal player with a neutral position expresses himself in this way, but that's just by the way.
Not to be angry, but I think that was the reason to mention this.
Why not ? After all, you have thrown but directly with paragraphs around you - the same applies to the "documentation of the post". So you go if you want to represent directly a "Do not mess with me" attitude. Anyone who is somewhat deeper familiar with this topic knows that falls into the category of "dogs that bark..." and it does not come to a charge (let alone to a judgment)
Well, he wants to be 100% authentic, he has to come up with it himself. And of course I mean Calvin.
You're right, that's my mistake - I hadn't considered that some posts in this thread have already been deleted.
You are quite f**kle
Between the two sentences I have übrigends only read that you defend OCT to notice immediately afterwards that you have exactly to this no desire at all...
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first of all, I find our contributions here constructive compared to previous contributions. Here is exchanged and facts are addressed. I think that goes in a good direction so I enjoy it. I would like to say something about each of your statements, but I lack the time because I'm at work. Also, how can you quote every single part ? And not always only the last part of a contribution of the forewriter? Have grad no time to herrausfinden but the way you do it I find it great.
Am tonight then at the start until after
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Then I correct myself, the guide was never put on sale
However, I have followed the whole thing at that time relatively intensively and I am sure that in the beginning the intention was to make a quick buck
I can not prove this of course
How one wants to judge his range, about it can be argued
I see it as a low range, you as a medium range - we would turn in circles, so it makes no sense to go into it further
That he is an alcoholic does not make him a bad person, of course
Nevertheless, he was, at that time, often not really sane and certainly should not have uploaded the one or other video.
Because, even if it doesn't make him a bad person, his credibility is more than scratched by it
Whether he is "real" or "fake" in the end is written in the stars and none of us can answer that with any real certainty
However, and I stand by this, I am of the opinion that someone like him, should not necessarily stand in the limelight
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Hello so first I would like to apologize that I only now manage to answer
So I don't know how far you are allowed to post links here, regarding your statement or question for evidence. The first thing I will say is that I don't see many streamers that show their Deposit & withdrawal and betting history, which you can view in the casinos. OCT does this regularly live on AIR. Therefore, I always mention and say before you type your fingers to the bone here you should just watch the latest replays on their Twitch channel or just be there live when you stream on Twitch.tv @onlinecasinostube
But I actually have a proof from the here and now, where you can see in this case it is definitely about REAL MONEY and no stream fake credit. Can I imagine aufjedenfall not because it is a big platform on which the case is still actively clarified.
A response from @Maximaleinsatz his private Instagram account I have also received in the meantime. He says: He no longer comments on these old bagatelles also he has no desire to justify it and it is not necessary to do so
He also says QUOTE via INSTAGRAM PN
"Who thinks that I'm fake should drop by the stream and convince yourself, all the others just want to p**s on my leg and I'm already used to it I've been running social media for almost 13 years in various areas and of course there are always haters, flamers or people who want to put you down. It does not matter how many proofs or ONstream deposits you make there will always be someone who says something negative, reflects or tries to harm me with false statements. From there: I am used to that, that is quite normal vorallen here in our western world, if it is about money shimmers again and again the western ellenbogen society through. I have not necessary diggi me there permanently to justify and have there also no desire to... PS: I will look at that on gamblejoe.com times however gabs there at that time already often times contributions with similar assertions..."
QUOTE END
He says practically the same thing I wrote above everyone should make themselves in the here and now a picture and look in the LIVE stream or think what he wants more you can do there before not
So and here now still a proof from the HERE & NOW so from reality: € 17,000 WIN Askgamblers complaint from OnlineCasinosTube
i can not imagine that this is about fake money. Since here many write for evidence I have now posted a link I hope that is in order @gamblejoe.com ??? I have also specifically linked only the askgamblers contribution and not the social media of oct or other streamers.
So...
The wins the replay of the stream and everything was of course streamed LIVE on Twitch and are still available today on their twitch.tv/onlinecasinostube channel. Also other past replays you can yes times look at the are also much shown that it is about real money.
On your other topics I'll go later, I'm working first time further tonight against about 20 clock in the closing time.
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There was a single video that purported to show Max from OCT "secretly" playing with bonus money. In my eyes, it wasn't really clear. I can assure you that I "know" pretty much every casino Youtuber and Twitcher and watch the vast majority of them continuously. Max or OCT always seems to be the most real to me. First of all, you have to remember that Max was one of the first to bring casino content to the respective video platforms. Whether it was casino, hall or online. Granted, that doesn't prove his realness
However, Max makes safe more minus than plus in his current streams. So where's the point if he's playing with fakemoney but still making losses all the time? And why should he make fake deposits of 50€?
- Entertainment? Who feels entertained by a stream where almost only losses are made?
- Lure people into the affilate links? Estimated he advises against 50% of the casinos he links. There are almost always references to problems, poor RTP, hassles with Verification and payout (if ever available). It is often said "keep your hands off this crap casino" . Leo and Platin are the only casinos he actually promotes positively. But these are also OCs that have some of the best ratings here and are also continuously advertised here. Also legitimate in my eyes, are good OCs.
Max's answer to the question what tips he can give for OCs: "Don't play at all"
When he plays with Bonus money, he says that too.
Ever thought about the fact that he just has the cash for raw deposits? In the offline videos he wins thousands more often. Does he also play with bonus money? And the offline videos came way before the Twitch streams. That he takes the money for machines from the stream and from affilate links can be excluded. So the only thing left is that he honestly earned (maybe inherited or found) the dough himself. Or he has his own casinos and halls, but then he would have the money to gamble. But I think that this can be ruled out
There were enough situations where he leaked his data at cash in and outs.
I think Max is 99% authentic. (Of course, I can still be wrong, that's why one percent is missing).
Ultimately, every viewer should also question why he wants to see how streamers play with RAW cash. Does it make you feel better? Do you want to see how someone loses his money? Does anyone here think they have a better chance of winning if they follow the Affiliate link of a Streamer who often plays with RAW cash? I think everything does not apply. Everyone here wants to be entertained, in connection with their hobby/addiction
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... . Ok Max from OCT - we get your point.
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Aaaaall right. Only if you speak out against him, you are not Max. Announcement is out.
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i don't mean it that way. Everyone can have his opinion about whoever. I also watch the one or other Streamer and I don't care who plays with which money. It's begrudgement of the viewers. Some sit in front of the streams and can't believe that there are people who Deposit several thousand euros a month or even a day
But I don't have to write such a text here and defend exactly one person like that. That's rather suspicious and doesn't make things any better for him
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No, I don't HAVE to. But I do it, because that's what this forum is for.
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Even if I were Max (No, I'm not 🙄), that does not change anything about my statements in the above text.
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