ImmortalOli wrote on 06/27/2020 at 21:05
Aaaaall right. Only if you speak out against him, you are not Max. Announcement is out.
So I don't feel addressed for once
Very nicely written vorallen the comment before from you. Yes, it also seems to me that here the majority write negative and as soon as one also times positive what contributes to no disskussion is possible. It's good that you address that times. There is meinet because of certainly a lot of negative things to say about max but to remain neutral one must not forget how much positive there is to mention
For example, he is simply labeled by many as an alcoholic and is therefore for many asi insane or something else in the direction
I see it the other way around he makes in his streams and that at this intellectual high level so strongly self-reflected permanently the topic of addictions and therapy on the topic and that on a total real talk basis. There is something very rare, especially on the Internet live style, social media, etc.
I see this as a gift. He is as I said very experienced speaks openly about his addiction to the full extent and is totally fit in this topic and really has a clue. I have learned a lot from max and am very grateful for it so that even I, who really also has a hard time for family reasons - will now apply for my second therapy for gambling.
so as an example i was in a therapy with a diploma psychologist. this woman didn't get any access to me and i didn't get any wire to her. i had the feeling to talk against a wall. Now there is max oct someone who is himself in the material inside, an obviously much around the world come human being who has seen and experienced a lot and who shares his experiences free of charge with me in a way so that I also understand it?
Nowadays, there is almost nothing like that, especially here in the western world.
I am very grateful for this - the level of max and the intellectual contribution he makes is at a high end level. He has really earned compared to some others with millions of subscribers - the really big viewers and followers pay for what he contributes.
Thanks Max if you read this you are great! Don't get f**ked up by the haters but you don't do that I know I'm behind you OCT crew !
PS: TODAY Max is live at 16:30 he has just posted on instagram @onlinecasinostube all the better talk and write without having a clue can come by I'm there! And then you can also form your own picture.
So I'm done here
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ImmortalOli wrote on 27.06.2020 at 20:10: Greetings.
There was a single video that purported to show Max from OCT "secretly" playing with bonus money. It wasn't really clear in my eyes
Of course it was clear! While it can be said that the picture material was pulled out of context, this does not change the fact. Although he deletes his videos regularly, so I still have the video.
. First of all, you have to remember that Max was one of the first to bring casino content to the respective video platforms. Whether it was casino, hall or online. Granted, that doesn't prove its realness.
Nah, he wasn't. Although he always likes to tell around that he was one of the first and has streamed for several years irregularly in front of over 1000 viewers on Twitch, but even that is a lie. Besides, that doesn't matter at all.
However, Max makes more minus than plus in his current streams. So where should be the sense behind it, if he plays with fakemoney, but still makes losses all the time? And why should he make fake deposits of 50€?
If he is supposedly in the red on-stream, which is quite possible due to his addiction, then it makes sense not to play with equity
- Entertainment? Who feels entertained by a stream where almost only losing takes place?
Everyone? Because we are all passionate players?
It sounds to me like you want to advise him to negotiate a deal with the casinos to increase the
chance of winning at the slots, which would increase the entertainment?
Absurd.
Lure people into the affilate links? Estimated he advises against 50% of the casinos he links to. There are almost always references to problems, bad RTP, trouble with Verification and payout (if ever available).
So he advises against the casinos that he himself has selected and advertises? Why does he not look for better casinos? Why does he promote them at all?
The answer can think of everyone.
Nevertheless, you are addressing a very important factor for players. At the latest now you should avoid this Streamer
That he takes the money for vending machines from the stream and from affilate links can be ruled out
Nah young, the opposite is true. Although he claimed a few months ago that he does not generate Affiliate income, so this time he also flew up in the stream.
On Almor Affiliates alone, his earnings were around 4,000€. Put another zero on it and you know his monthly earnings.
And no, 40.000€ per month is not too high. Of course the money is reinvested e.g. for Spielo sessions, that is understandable. By the way, I don't care how much money the streamers earn as affiliates, that only interests me marginally.
So the only thing that remains is that he has honestly earned the coal himself (perhaps also inherited or found).
Nah....he didn't find a suitcase.
The answer is quite simple, Buisness.
There have been enough situations where he has leaked his data on cash in and outs.
I consider Max to be 99% authentic
No he didn't. Now please don't show me any edit pictures that user Latino has already shown here.
Your reaction shows again that a fair and neutral discussion about this is not possible anyway. I can bring good arguments here
You are probably guileless, naive and your view is very limited.
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Tolga wrote on 28.06.2020 at 13:38
PS: TODAY Max is live at 16:30 he has just posted on instagram @onlinecasinostube all the better talk and write without having a clue can come by I'm there! And then you can also form your own picture.
That's also the problem I have with oct and max. He always tells about his travelblogs that he has and with which he earns so much money.
But every idiot knows that the coal all come from the affilate things.
I think you can safely stop the discussion. No one will come to a common denominator here. I don't know why Royal is twisting or fabricating the facts. It seems to me that he is on a personal vendetta. I can save myself any words in the future, because nothing will change safely.
ImmortalOli wrote on 06/28/2020 at 7:55 PM
I don't understand what this is supposed to prove. It's a list of viewer names. I'm on it myself and I'm certainly not a bot.
In the clip you see the viewer counter of about 180, although only about 60 viewers are present. I have written more about this in my contribution
I think you can safely stop the discussion. Nobody will come to a common denominator here. I don't know why Royal is twisting or fabricating the facts
Kind regards,
Yours Max! ... er Oli ...
Or a bot?!
I'm not twisting any facts here and there is also a reason that we can't find a common denominator. Because you are dat Kindle here, who cynically tries to cover up the truth. Your disregard for the accusations is unacceptable.
It seems to me that he is on a personal vendetta
Understandable, right? In another thread you can find text messages from him to me where he threatens my children and a streamer's family with violence. He made himself multi accounts and tried to intimidate us.
Can it be that you and the user "Tolga" tolerate child abuse and coercion? Because according to your posts you do not distance yourself from his statements, instead you celebrate him?
Royal777 wrote on 06/28/2020 at 8:27 pm
Understandable, right? In another thread you can find text messages from him to me where he threatens my kids and a streamer's family with violence. He made multi accounts and tried to intimidate us.
What kind of reaction did you expect when you defame someone on the net and attack their business? Regardless of whether it's true - I would act exactly the same way.
Could it be that you as well as user "Tolga" tolerate child abuse and coercion? Because according to your posts you don't distance yourself from his statements, instead you celebrate him?
Can't recall Max making any serious comments about child abuse. What did he ultimately coerce you to do? Can only read here that he coerced and threatened you, but not to what.
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So I don't feel addressed for once
Very nicely written vorallen the comment before from you. Yes, it also seems to me that here the majority write negative and as soon as one also times positive what contributes to no disskussion is possible. It's good that you address that times. There is meinet because of certainly a lot of negative things to say about max but to remain neutral one must not forget how much positive there is to mention
For example, he is simply labeled by many as an alcoholic and is therefore for many asi insane or something else in the direction
I see it the other way around he makes in his streams and that at this intellectual high level so strongly self-reflected permanently the topic of addictions and therapy on the topic and that on a total real talk basis. There is something very rare, especially on the Internet live style, social media, etc.
I see this as a gift. He is as I said very experienced speaks openly about his addiction to the full extent and is totally fit in this topic and really has a clue. I have learned a lot from max and am very grateful for it so that even I, who really also has a hard time for family reasons - will now apply for my second therapy for gambling.
so as an example i was in a therapy with a diploma psychologist. this woman didn't get any access to me and i didn't get any wire to her. i had the feeling to talk against a wall. Now there is max oct someone who is himself in the material inside, an obviously much around the world come human being who has seen and experienced a lot and who shares his experiences free of charge with me in a way so that I also understand it?
Nowadays, there is almost nothing like that, especially here in the western world.
I am very grateful for this - the level of max and the intellectual contribution he makes is at a high end level. He has really earned compared to some others with millions of subscribers - the really big viewers and followers pay for what he contributes.
Thanks Max if you read this you are great! Don't get f**ked up by the haters but you don't do that I know I'm behind you OCT crew !
PS: TODAY Max is live at 16:30 he has just posted on instagram @onlinecasinostube all the better talk and write without having a clue can come by I'm there! And then you can also form your own picture.
So I'm done here
ImmortalOliImmortalOli
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Of course it was clear! While it can be said that the picture material was pulled out of context, this does not change the fact. Although he deletes his videos regularly, so I still have the video.
Nah, he wasn't. Although he always likes to tell around that he was one of the first and has streamed for several years irregularly in front of over 1000 viewers on Twitch, but even that is a lie. Besides, that doesn't matter at all.
You can find an archive with all the stats here, for example:
https://twitchtracker.com/onlinecasinostube
If he is supposedly in the red on-stream, which is quite possible due to his addiction, then it makes sense not to play with equity
Everyone? Because we are all passionate players?
It sounds to me like you want to advise him to negotiate a deal with the casinos to increase the
chance of winning at the slots, which would increase the entertainment?
Absurd.
So he advises against the casinos that he himself has selected and advertises? Why does he not look for better casinos? Why does he promote them at all?
The answer can think of everyone.
Nevertheless, you are addressing a very important factor for players. At the latest now you should avoid this Streamer
Nah young, the opposite is true. Although he claimed a few months ago that he does not generate Affiliate income, so this time he also flew up in the stream.
On Almor Affiliates alone, his earnings were around 4,000€. Put another zero on it and you know his monthly earnings.
And no, 40.000€ per month is not too high. Of course the money is reinvested e.g. for Spielo sessions, that is understandable. By the way, I don't care how much money the streamers earn as affiliates, that only interests me marginally.
Nah....he didn't find a suitcase.
The answer is quite simple, Buisness.
No he didn't. Now please don't show me any edit pictures that user Latino has already shown here.
You are probably guileless, naive and your view is very limited.
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Your advertising has probably brought nothing, instead, the Max tries with bots to push the audience, see:
https://gyazo.com/5a31bacb446b10d5b7fa24b7289aac2b
This action also shows that he has no interest in a community, instead he tries to gain attention with manipulated viewer counts. His bots are counted as "viewer count" and therefore are not in the viewer list. An explanation of this is here ( https://www.streamhow.de/blog/2017/07/28/unterschied-zwischen-viewer-count-und-viewer-list/ )
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But every idiot knows that the coal all come from the affilate things.
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I don't understand what this is supposed to prove. It's a list of viewer names. I'm in it myself, and I'm certainly not a bot.
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Kind regards,
Yours, Max! ... äh Oli ...
Or a bot after all?!
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In the clip you see the viewer counter of about 180, although only about 60 viewers are present. I have written more about this in my contribution
I'm not twisting any facts here and there is also a reason that we can't find a common denominator. Because you are dat Kindle here, who cynically tries to cover up the truth. Your disregard for the accusations is unacceptable.
Understandable, right? In another thread you can find text messages from him to me where he threatens my children and a streamer's family with violence. He made himself multi accounts and tried to intimidate us.
Can it be that you and the user "Tolga" tolerate child abuse and coercion? Because according to your posts you do not distance yourself from his statements, instead you celebrate him?
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What kind of reaction did you expect when you defame someone on the net and attack their business? Regardless of whether it's true - I would act exactly the same way.
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Can't recall Max making any serious comments about child abuse. What did he ultimately coerce you to do? Can only read here that he coerced and threatened you, but not to what.
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