I know a lot has been written about this but I just want to share something I've been thinking about lately
There are now quite a few streamers that reach viewership numbers between 200-500 people. Many of these "smaller streamers" are online almost every day and pay well between 500 and 1000 euros. Whether with or without bonus but I think the numbers you can just leave it
Now there are also various streamers who list their payments and withdrawals monthly, whereby very many are also several months in a row a few hundred to a thousand euros in the red and who earn their living from streaming
If you look at that, even a Streamer with a few hundred viewers must earn a lot of money from the Affiliate income, because I don't believe that a normal citizen can make a monthly minus of 1000 euros or more in the casino and still earn from the whole story
How high must then be the income ? We move there but then well and gladly in the range of several thousand euros
But I can't really imagine that with such audience numbers. Maybe I just don't know enough about it.
I would be interested in your opinions on this - especially bzlg the "smaller streamers
Many advertise with casino links and as soon as a viewer registers through such a link and pays in the casinos, of which is already a considerable sum of commissions for the Streamer hang. shortly ago, but here once a documentary was purely put about such a streamer. The said there, that he should receive 80% commission from each Deposit, if the people have registered through his link at the casinos. That's at least a good earning opportunity and then there are also some who donate money while watching.
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1st Mar. 2020, at 04:20 pm CET#3
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Well, normally a casino pays for a new player who has actually deposited money on average between 50-150 € in commission.
Those who do this commercially must also pay taxes
And quite a few new registrations are canceled due to fake registration, double account, Affiliate ID not assignable, etc.
Then there is still the possibility to get the commission after the losses of the advertised players
But you are wrong with 80%, depending on the monthly turnover between 25 - 45%.
Negative here is for the affiliate that possible wins of the advertised players are offset.
So if you recruit 10 players who gamble away a total of 5000 euros a month in the casino, you would earn 1500 € at 30% commission
But if only one of them makes a few thousand plus, this is deducted from the payout and you earn nothing at all.
Therefore, most affiliates opt for a one-time payment per new player
But even if this is a highroller who plays 10,000 € per month, the affiliate only gets his one-time 100 € and that's it.
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1st Mar. 2020, at 07:53 pm CET#4
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There are different deals. Usually 30-50% of the losses of a player. This is called Revenue Share. Or Cpa Deal. Then it is 100-500 euros once when the player pays a certain sum (50 euros eg). Where Cpa is hardly ever made. A Streamer who has 100-200 viewers in the stream, these are not always the same viewers. I denkemal that there are then 500 different people throughout the day. If there are only 10-20 per stream pay in and lose, I assume that streamer makes some money in the month. Otherwise there would not be more and more streamers and everyone wants to have something of the cake.but I noticed that the casinos are becoming increasingly stingy with Deposit bonuses. And that's why in the long run only the big streamers can survive, or it is just streamed with fake money. Although I have never seen one. Always hear that only from the streamers themselves. Then there will be something to it.As long as no one proves to me. That the Affilate earnings my play at the casino negatively influenced. Which I definitely do not assume. I like to use the links of the streamer. Because if the casino makes bitch at a payout. Can you ask the respective streamer for help. So can find nothing wrong with streaming. For me personally. The young people here may be triggered to play casino, others should judge.
Just got sent an Affiliate link from a "Hermano" in the Communicator !?!! Well, I don't know a Herrmann nor do I have a brother, that's just cheap again. In my opinion most of them don't know the basics of network marketing nor what is meant by business etiquette. And then still without really working at other people's expense want to earn money - I think it hacks!
But if you are serious about it, you get your reputation and your earnings from your appearance in the net and that is usually somewhere between inconspicuous and invisible. For this my blessing !
Well there are also various streamers who list their deposits and withdrawals on a monthly basis
For example ? I have yet to see one that publishes a full deposit/cashout history. If at all only the cashouts are shown. At best, the number of bullets/loss per session is published daily, but I haven't seen any real accounting. Then they say too much work/no desire blah blah blah...
How high must the income be then ? We move there nevertheless then well and gladly in the range of some thousand euro.
Of course, the income must be higher than the losses, and yes - with Casinoaffiliate can earn with appropriate range quite so much money.
But I can't really imagine that with such audience figures.
Then the streamers you watch probably use casino / fakemoney. With smaller streamers you can definitely see that they sweat when no more wins come. With many big ones, on the other hand, you can see that it doesn't matter if 5000 €/$ are shot into a casino on one day
However, you won't be able to prove this as long as the Streamer doesn't invite himself to your home and disclose all bank accounts, e-wallets, Affiliate accounts and business emails to you - and this will definitely not happen.
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or it's just streaming with fake money. Although I have never seen one.
That surprises me, the slot category is full of such streamers, the same goes for the viewer numbers which is supported by estimated at least 60% viewbots (for larger streamers) to be placed in the front of the category. You can often see this in the ratio of chat activity to viewer numbers.
As long as no one proves to me. That the affilate earnings negatively affects my playing at the casino. Which I definitely do not assume.
The affiliate share actually does not affect your winning opportunities. Falls for the casino just in the marketing budget that is in relation to TV advertising or even on the chest of a soccer club rather small. But to come up with numbers you can assume that the affiliate share is roughly calculated by casino advantage (RTP). Playing the of a single affiliate recruited customers 10,000 a month would be at an average RTP of 95% (which then corresponds to 500 €) then so around the 175 € at about 35% affiliate share (may vary depending on the casino deal) - is all only times roughly calculated, of course, you can break down in much more detail. If you can then recruit a few high-rollers, then you are already quite quickly in the 4-digit range - or you make the money through the mass (which is not the case with streamers with some exceptions)
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Affiliate is per se a good thing since many useful sides can finance themselves over it, but it drives (as in each other range) also its unsch?ne blooms ....
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Latino wrote on 02/03/2020 at 08:34: @Licifer88neu
The Affiliate portion actually does not affect your chances of winning. Falls for the casino just in the marketing budget in relation to TV advertising or even on the chest of a soccer club is rather small. But to come to numbers you can assume that the affiliate share is to be calculated roughly from casino advantage (RTP). Playing the of a single affiliate recruited customers 10,000 a month would be at an average RTP of 95% (which then corresponds to 500 €) then so around the 175 € at about 35% affiliate share (may vary depending on the casino deal) - is all only times roughly calculated, of course, you can break down in much more detail. If you can then recruit a few high-rollers, then you are already quite quickly in the 4-digit range - or you make the money through the mass (which is not the case with streamers with some exceptions)
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Affiliate is per se a good thing since many useful sides can finance themselves over it, but it drives (as in each other range) also its unsch?ne blooms ....
I have to agree with you that there are enough viewbots and fake streamers. I meant of course the apparently legitimate streamers. Since you always hear that some play with Monopoly money. But I have never seen any proof. Otherwise I give you with almost everything right.only that the rtp is calculated so. I pay n klausi. Play mio spins and get 960 euros so 96 percent rtp back I hold for impossible. Since workers, affilates. Advertising. Bonus. Everything must be paid. That should first explain to me a casino how that should go. Just ask your buddies who got 96 percent back.could be at most a net rtp. After deduction of all costs. Complicated topic
I'm already aware of that, that in the best case the revenues should be higher however I can hardly imagine that with 200-300 spectators
Of course, it's not always the same viewers and there may be a few new sign up about their links, but that can not then come month after month more to it, if the audience numbers remain the same and do not grow
And indeed, there are streamers who at least offset their monthly losses or wins against each other. One example would be CT24
Well, and you yourself give the explanation that it "could" be fake money for some of them. We will not be able to prove it
I am basically concerned with the aforementioned small streamers. And there I have not yet seen any sweating . .
cbz490 wrote on 02/03/2020 at 11:30 am: My personal opinion on this is that small streamers like CT24 are playing with fakemoney....
Had mine to Jürgen(Clavin) given here also already some threads
Are as I said always guesses. Evidence is unlikely to be expected in this sector
Stutzig makes me just the daily play and also very frequent lose thousands of euros. . . I just can not imagine that there as an Affiliate - as a small Streamer - so much coal can come around
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I know a lot has been written about this but I just want to share something I've been thinking about lately
There are now quite a few streamers that reach viewership numbers between 200-500 people. Many of these "smaller streamers" are online almost every day and pay well between 500 and 1000 euros. Whether with or without bonus but I think the numbers you can just leave it
Now there are also various streamers who list their payments and withdrawals monthly, whereby very many are also several months in a row a few hundred to a thousand euros in the red and who earn their living from streaming
If you look at that, even a Streamer with a few hundred viewers must earn a lot of money from the Affiliate income, because I don't believe that a normal citizen can make a monthly minus of 1000 euros or more in the casino and still earn from the whole story
How high must then be the income ? We move there but then well and gladly in the range of several thousand euros
But I can't really imagine that with such audience numbers. Maybe I just don't know enough about it.
I would be interested in your opinions on this - especially bzlg the "smaller streamers
Kind regards
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Those who do this commercially must also pay taxes
And quite a few new registrations are canceled due to fake registration, double account, Affiliate ID not assignable, etc.
Then there is still the possibility to get the commission after the losses of the advertised players
But you are wrong with 80%, depending on the monthly turnover between 25 - 45%.
Negative here is for the affiliate that possible wins of the advertised players are offset.
So if you recruit 10 players who gamble away a total of 5000 euros a month in the casino, you would earn 1500 € at 30% commission
But if only one of them makes a few thousand plus, this is deducted from the payout and you earn nothing at all.
Therefore, most affiliates opt for a one-time payment per new player
But even if this is a highroller who plays 10,000 € per month, the affiliate only gets his one-time 100 € and that's it.
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But if you are serious about it, you get your reputation and your earnings from your appearance in the net and that is usually somewhere between inconspicuous and invisible. For this my blessing !
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For example ? I have yet to see one that publishes a full deposit/cashout history. If at all only the cashouts are shown. At best, the number of bullets/loss per session is published daily, but I haven't seen any real accounting. Then they say too much work/no desire blah blah blah...
Of course, the income must be higher than the losses, and yes - with Casinoaffiliate can earn with appropriate range quite so much money.
Then the streamers you watch probably use casino / fakemoney. With smaller streamers you can definitely see that they sweat when no more wins come. With many big ones, on the other hand, you can see that it doesn't matter if 5000 €/$ are shot into a casino on one day
However, you won't be able to prove this as long as the Streamer doesn't invite himself to your home and disclose all bank accounts, e-wallets, Affiliate accounts and business emails to you - and this will definitely not happen.
@simkarte76
That surprises me, the slot category is full of such streamers, the same goes for the viewer numbers which is supported by estimated at least 60% viewbots (for larger streamers) to be placed in the front of the category. You can often see this in the ratio of chat activity to viewer numbers.
The affiliate share actually does not affect your winning opportunities. Falls for the casino just in the marketing budget that is in relation to TV advertising or even on the chest of a soccer club rather small. But to come up with numbers you can assume that the affiliate share is roughly calculated by casino advantage (RTP). Playing the of a single affiliate recruited customers 10,000 a month would be at an average RTP of 95% (which then corresponds to 500 €) then so around the 175 € at about 35% affiliate share (may vary depending on the casino deal) - is all only times roughly calculated, of course, you can break down in much more detail. If you can then recruit a few high-rollers, then you are already quite quickly in the 4-digit range - or you make the money through the mass (which is not the case with streamers with some exceptions)
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Affiliate is per se a good thing since many useful sides can finance themselves over it, but it drives (as in each other range) also its unsch?ne blooms ....
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I have to agree with you that there are enough viewbots and fake streamers. I meant of course the apparently legitimate streamers. Since you always hear that some play with Monopoly money. But I have never seen any proof. Otherwise I give you with almost everything right.only that the rtp is calculated so. I pay n klausi. Play mio spins and get 960 euros so 96 percent rtp back I hold for impossible. Since workers, affilates. Advertising. Bonus. Everything must be paid. That should first explain to me a casino how that should go. Just ask your buddies who got 96 percent back.could be at most a net rtp. After deduction of all costs. Complicated topic
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I'm already aware of that, that in the best case the revenues should be higher however I can hardly imagine that with 200-300 spectators
Of course, it's not always the same viewers and there may be a few new sign up about their links, but that can not then come month after month more to it, if the audience numbers remain the same and do not grow
And indeed, there are streamers who at least offset their monthly losses or wins against each other. One example would be CT24
Well, and you yourself give the explanation that it "could" be fake money for some of them. We will not be able to prove it
I am basically concerned with the aforementioned small streamers. And there I have not yet seen any sweating . .
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Had mine to Jürgen(Clavin) here also already given some threads
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Are as I said always guesses. Evidence is unlikely to be expected in this sector
Stutzig makes me just the daily play and also very frequent lose thousands of euros. . . I just can not imagine that there as an Affiliate - as a small Streamer - so much coal can come around
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