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10th May. 2020, at 09:17 pm CEST#31
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After I read here again and again about problems with banks at high gaming volume or high payouts, I would like to share my proven financial setup, it helps me to keep track and at the same time to protect me from excessive losses and problems I have never had.
First of all I don't think much of Neteller, Skrill, MuchBetter and co. Costs fees, sitting abroad, EU DSVGO does not interest them, I do not trust you and accordingly do not use them. I also don't like the Fintechs like N26 and Revolut, because behind them there are no financial professionals, but IT hipsters.
Basically, I recommend everyone to have an account at a branch bank for normal money transactions. This account should ONLY be used for this purpose and NOT for gambling. This can be savings bank, cooperative bank or any other bank. For Klarna and Giropay can be blocked, so that you are not even tempted. Trustly refuses to block but it also does not go all banks. You have to keep this account clean.
As a credit card I use only American Express, which is great because no limit and goes in no online casino. Visa and MC with thick credit line is the last thing I want, is only tempting, then you have gambling debts. Very bad Barclaycard, because they give the largest credit limits.
For gambling I have a current account with ING. For the current account there is a debit visa (without credit limit), which also does not show up in the Schufa. Since I also trade via a connected securities account, I have had months with over 100,000 EUR turnover from securities purchases and sales, as well as casino deposits and withdrawals. ING was never interested, never a problem, never a query. I deposited up to 4000 EUR per day in Online Casinos and from time to time made large withdrawals. Mostly via Trustly and now and then via the ING credit card, which unfortunately collects 3.5% gambling fee, which is the only drawback. I also only ever play in phases, so sometimes one month awesome, then three months no more. Does not matter to the bank.
You can also use DKB, they are also not interested in what you do with your money. And if you also have a securities account and trade, every bank welcomes you with a kiss on the hand, because the order fees earn them a lot and don't scare away gambling customers. Ultimately, the stock market is also just a casino but with better chances than online casino, if you deal with the matter a little.
Conclusion: a serious Internet bank account and you have no problems. But your regular account at a branch bank should not be used for casino transactions. This way you avoid problems like account cancellation etc.
The whole thing also has the advantage that you only transfer the money to the Internet account, what you have as a gaming budget, if that is gone, you will not play until the end of the month. So refrigerator filling and rent are never in danger.
Probably people who have high turnover on the account are rather under the radar. I hope they leave you alone
For stocks I have no nerve. Had slight losses in day trading although I knew what will happen. The short-term trading (several CFD trades in one day) is psychologically really violent. Have learned a lot through it. Oh I fall into the OT
I trust in Much Better. Evtl the one Deposit is also enough forever lol
With what all have you verified with MuchBetter?
I have now scanned my passport min. 5x and made selfie must make the Verification but always again is therefore probably rejected
But I do not get any information about what might have been wrong
I scanned the front and back of my passport, then took a selfie (which was automatically taken after scanning the passport).
As I understand it, they automatically match the selfie with the passport photo on the passport. Then automatically? verified.The confirmation came 1 minute later and account was verified
Update: My manual bank transfer has been posted directly to my MuchBetter balance this morning. The "play money" tab has disappeared. So now everything is on normal credit. Credit card is ordered.
So if I have understood correctly I do not need to convert the balance by Selbstp2p transfer in play money and can now Deposit into the casino? When casino pays out it does not matter what balance it is since I can spend it on casino and credit card?
ErikS wrote on 11.05.2020 at 15:24 clock: Have the Perso front and back scanned.After Selfie (was automatically queried after Perso scann) There was suddenly passport.is but no matter.
As I understand it, they automatically match the selfie with the passport photo on the passport. Then automatically? verified.The confirmation came 1 minute later and account was verified
ErikS wrote on 11.05.2020 at 15:33: Update: My manual bank transfer has been posted directly to my MuchBetter balance this morning. The "play money" tab has disappeared. So now everything on normal credit. Credit card is ordered.
So if I have understood correctly I do not need to convert the balance by Selbstp2p transfer in play money and can now Deposit into the casino? When casino pays out it does not matter what balance it is since I can spend it on casino and credit card?
All correct.
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12th May. 2020, at 06:59 am CEST#38
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PS918 wrote on 03.05.2020 at 04:26: I have also thought about this issue, because the VR Bank has terminated my account due to a large win and I do not want to be terminated at the next bank.
The easiest and most discreet would be Neteller in conjunction with their prepaid credit card. The Neteller account can even be topped up via a Paysafe card, right? In addition, with the prepaid credit card no Schufa query is made. The question now is, does this credit card still show up in the Schufa, even though it is a prepaid card? If it didn't, you would be completely under the radar for both deposits (paysafe card) and withdrawals(credit card). Correct me if I'm wrong☺️
I find strange have never had problems with my bank.How much was the win if you may ask.
Have now instant deposited on Wildz 50 euros and got the 100 FS. Down to 10 euros gambled and konmte not pay out on Muchbetter. Minimum payout not reached.No idea what the minimum payout at MuchBetter is at Wildz.Hmpf. Have the remaining 10 euros also gambled away. Stands nowhere how much minimum payout is. Well 10 euros do not pay out I find bissl funny. Deposit of 10 euros goes yes also.Egal. Bissl had bad luck. Am still 1k in plus and pay only with Bonuses ein.Jetzt erstmal 10 days FS abstauben and rest rest.Soll yes also make fun as a Lowroller
When MB MasterCard is there I try times to use the if I get times ne payout. I could have done the same.because after 50 euros turnover you can pay out.
20 euros is the minimum withdrawal for me at Wildz Casino. I use bank transfer and think times that for all withdrawal methods 20 euros is the minimum withdrawal. But why did you want to withdraw 10 euros, if you have previously deposited 50 and thus have a minus of 40 euros?
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First of all I don't think much of Neteller, Skrill, MuchBetter and co. Costs fees, sitting abroad, EU DSVGO does not interest them, I do not trust you and accordingly do not use them. I also don't like the Fintechs like N26 and Revolut, because behind them there are no financial professionals, but IT hipsters.
Basically, I recommend everyone to have an account at a branch bank for normal money transactions. This account should ONLY be used for this purpose and NOT for gambling. This can be savings bank, cooperative bank or any other bank. For Klarna and Giropay can be blocked, so that you are not even tempted. Trustly refuses to block but it also does not go all banks. You have to keep this account clean.
As a credit card I use only American Express, which is great because no limit and goes in no online casino. Visa and MC with thick credit line is the last thing I want, is only tempting, then you have gambling debts. Very bad Barclaycard, because they give the largest credit limits.
For gambling I have a current account with ING. For the current account there is a debit visa (without credit limit), which also does not show up in the Schufa. Since I also trade via a connected securities account, I have had months with over 100,000 EUR turnover from securities purchases and sales, as well as casino deposits and withdrawals. ING was never interested, never a problem, never a query. I deposited up to 4000 EUR per day in Online Casinos and from time to time made large withdrawals. Mostly via Trustly and now and then via the ING credit card, which unfortunately collects 3.5% gambling fee, which is the only drawback. I also only ever play in phases, so sometimes one month awesome, then three months no more. Does not matter to the bank.
You can also use DKB, they are also not interested in what you do with your money. And if you also have a securities account and trade, every bank welcomes you with a kiss on the hand, because the order fees earn them a lot and don't scare away gambling customers. Ultimately, the stock market is also just a casino but with better chances than online casino, if you deal with the matter a little.
Conclusion: a serious Internet bank account and you have no problems. But your regular account at a branch bank should not be used for casino transactions. This way you avoid problems like account cancellation etc.
The whole thing also has the advantage that you only transfer the money to the Internet account, what you have as a gaming budget, if that is gone, you will not play until the end of the month. So refrigerator filling and rent are never in danger.
I've been doing well with this setup for years.
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For stocks I have no nerve. Had slight losses in day trading although I knew what will happen. The short-term trading (several CFD trades in one day) is psychologically really violent. Have learned a lot through it. Oh I fall into the OT
I trust in Much Better. Evtl the one Deposit is also enough forever lol
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I have now scanned my passport min. 5x and made selfie must make the Verification but always again is therefore probably rejected
But I do not get any information about what might have been wrong
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As I understand it, they automatically match the selfie with the passport photo on the passport. Then automatically? verified.The confirmation came 1 minute later and account was verified
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So if I have understood correctly I do not need to convert the balance by Selbstp2p transfer in play money and can now Deposit into the casino? When casino pays out it does not matter what balance it is since I can spend it on casino and credit card?
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Will not work for me
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All correct.
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I find strange have never had problems with my bank.How much was the win if you may ask.
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When MB MasterCard is there I try times to use the if I get times ne payout. I could have done the same.because after 50 euros turnover you can pay out.
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