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Bonus & offers: Paysafecard merchant daily limit (Page 3)

Topic created on 03rd May. 2020 | Page: 3 of 4 | Answers: 31 | Views: 17,145
campamocha
Rookie
Some background information about Paysafecard vs CashtoCode - maybe interesting for one or the other....

paysafecard - everybody knows it, established for over a decade as an anonymous e-money voucher. Are there many names for paysafecard, voucher, PIN etc.?
paysafecard is an e-money voucher, anonymous (no registration required - except for the mypaysafecard setup), transferable, i.e. whoever has the 16-digit PIN has the money
paysafecard is accordingly simple, therefore of course easy and also versatile to use. I buy credit and then decide when and where I want to Deposit how much of it, or whether I give it away in the forum

The big downside is that an anonymous e-money voucher is of course difficult for the issuer to control, and many, sometimes very creative fraud patterns open up. To counteract this, one (of many) tactical means is the terminal/POS limits. This is a measure that is primarily aimed at fraud prevention, but also at classic money laundering prevention. Limits are set differently, according to typical turnover frequency of the POS, size of the POS etc.. This then leads to such temporary unavailability at peak times. This is then not well enough controlled. The limits are too inflexible

CashtoCode seems to be similar for the first time, a cash method, but still the product is different in many ways

With CashtoCode, the deposit process starts with the Provider, who generates a barcode against a transaction initiated by the customer. The barcode itself carries no value, it is just a proxy for the open deposit transaction at the provider. Thus, NO e-money is generated or issued. When the customer pays the barcode (scans or types it in at the POS), it only services the open transaction at the provider. Say here there is only one, already known, dedicated use. The barcode is also not transferable in the logical sense, it has no monetary value, and the payer would only pay into the account at the provider, which is managed in the name of the person who ultimately generated the code

CashtoCode, as a technical service provider, does not hold customer funds in the form of e-money at any time. CashtoCode does not see who the customer is, but the product (compared to paysafecard) is more secure for the provider, precisely because the provider decides to whom I offer C2C, in what amount, how long is the barcode valid and everything is real-time based

With C2C there are therefore no POS limits, and the single transaction values are much higher, up to EUR 400 per deposit transaction (depending on the provider and POS)

The barcode can have your name on it, it comes from the provider and can (if legally/regulatory relevant or required) be matched with an ID when paying. Currently there is no such requirement in DE/AT (yet). However, some POS ask for an ID card, these are work orders that are usually given by the POS itself to its staff. This is often due to the history that a lot of fraud takes place with paysafecard and C2C is treated similarly here

C2C is not as widespread as paysafecard, which is probably simply because there 10+ years of market advantage in favor of psc make themselves felt

Ultimately C2C is easier for the provider, safer, no police inquiries, no money laundering issues, more self control over the payment product and integrity. It is "closed-loop" as opposed to paysafecard's "open-loop" approach

POS density - C2C uses the same POS as paysafecard, but here also less in total number
Provider density - to date C2C has only been integrated with a few Dozen providers, not yet the reach of paysafcard.


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CashtoCode_Support
Rookie
hello, i just stumbled across this article

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Jojolino
Amateur
ErikS wrote on 04.05.2020 at 12:47 pm: I once knew a gas station which has always printed on stock because the hour limits have annoyed.

With Cash2Code you have to show your ID? What do they do with the data?


I have now already loaded several times with Cash to Code, was never asked for an ID.
Only the code must be scanned and that's it

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gamble1
Legend
Jojolino wrote on 07/16/2020 at 1:32 pm

I've loaded with Cash to Code several times now, never been asked for ID.
Just scan the code and that's it.

That is because this system is quite new there will certainly still come what like PSC

I was recently told at the gas station by a new employee that you can only buy 1 time a month a PSC for 100 if you do it again they would have to write down the ID data and make the police a message that this can check a

Could not believe it at first but she said the others would not care and I could go to her colleague who then knows nothing about it but with her I can not buy then inquired at PSC and in fact this rule is true in DE and indeed already from 2012

Unbelievable since I sometimes buy 4 100 € PSC in one evening and never has anyone said anything

And to come to the actual thread the limit for PSC is reset only after 4 o'clock because I recently wanted to buy one at 4:30 and the limit from the previous day has still blocked

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Jojolino
Amateur
gamble1 wrote on 16.07.2020 at 16:54
This is because this system is quite new there will certainly still come what as with PSC

I was recently told at the gas station by a new employee that you can only buy 1 time a month a PSC for 100 if you do it again she would have to write down the ID data and make a report to the police that this can check a

Could not believe it at first but she said the others would not care and I could go to her colleague who then knows nothing about it but with her I can not buy then inquired at PSC and in fact this rule is true in DE and indeed already from 2012

Unbelievable since I sometimes buy 4 100 € PSC in one evening and never has anyone said anything

And to come to the actual thread the limit for PSC is reset only after 4 o'clock because I recently at 4:30 wanted to buy one and the limit from the previous day has still blocked

Is like an eager bank employee who just does not want to see a transfer to casinos
If one at the gas station would say that to me, who I garnicht more gone there now you get PSC everywhere

The main thing is that the woman at the gas station has given her two cents.

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Skitch22
Elite
I think at Lotto acceptance points there is no limit or it is higher, it has only ever happened to me at gas stations that was said come back later, because of limit restriction can not print Paysafe

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garfield68
Elite
this has also happened to me in the netto, I should then wait 15 minutes until it (allegedly) should work again. was too stupid for me, then I went to the post office and got me a psc

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gamble1
Legend
garfield68 wrote on 17.07.2020 at 00:41 clock: me is also in the netto already happened, I should then wait 15 min until it (allegedly) should work again. was me too stupid, am then to the post office and got me there ne psc.

Yes 100 € gibts then wait 15 minutes it does not matter whether you buy 100 PSC or 10 10s Psc

This is to protect against robberies that perpetrators can not take 10,000 of euros in PSC why there is but a daily limit no idea

@Jojolino

Yep I thought so too as I said I buy for years already Psc's and never gabs sos me mostly at the stamm gas station every evening already one for 100 ready

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CougarLady
Rookie
The tiresome subject

At the gas station I usually call before, with bissl luck is one of the two girls there for me to look and if it works, I pick up the printed receipt. Unfortunately, not everyone does so
I get sweaty every time I am only 20 meters away from the gas station, if I do not call...
One of the nice employees does not even check if it works. The screams already directly when she hears the word "Paysafecard", limit is exhausted, already the whole evening.

I've also had limit problems at the lottery and at Aldi. At the discount store, you can only change the cash register if one is still open.



gamble1 wrote on 17.07.2020 at 05:57:

Yes 100 € gives then 15 minutes wait it does not matter whether you buy 100 PSC or 10 10s Psc

My kiosk aunt told me a few days ago, always one hour. But I've also heard that Paysafe regulates this individually with the respective merchant?


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k****8
With me is from 5 hours limot 100€ evil eh

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