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Landbased Casinos in general: Novoline rip off. (Page 5)

Topic created on 19th Dec. 2018 | Page: 5 of 14 | Answers: 134 | Views: 61,497
Skeptiker
Rookie
I'm reading a lot about Manipulation here. Why manipulate the boxes? That was until 2014 rather times the case, until then there was still the so-called minimum payout ratio of 60%. Since the elimination of the same and the glorious TR5 no box needs to be manipulated! There are hardly any gaming-relevant laws left that the manufacturers / operators have to adhere to. Better said, which they can circumvent without much effort
Everyone knows the Rubbelfix lots. On the back it says how often each win is available. Quite in the same way it is also with the automats. If a "bull's eye" is out, there will be no more big wins in a certain (usually very, very long) period of time. Thus it can be calculated already with the installation of the automats completely exactly, what a box will give. Who is good (as a hall operator) can say already then exactly what he will earn
The coincidence (program-technically a still unsolved problem - better said pseudo-coincidence ) determines thus only, when the "wins" are given. So if most of the money has already gone out at the beginning, nothing more will come so fast. (Here, by the way, the "zero position" plays no role, has nothing to do with it) This is the feeling that every player knows: The boxes throw less and less until finally nothing more.

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Skeptiker
Rookie

Dbac79 wrote on 02/23/2019 23:02 PM

if i invite you to a dice game and you see that my dice are rigged, will you continue to play? no because you are sure to be cheated, but how many pay in umpteen times again and then say that there is Manipulation? in these cases there are only 2 possibilities the one who claims that is lying or is not exactly the brightest candle on the cake

Is in the rough correctly said. However, the comparison is somewhat misleading, since Gambling addiction is not taken into account.

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Anonym
So, last week I had to switch to Novo for the most part, since there was no Merkur/Bally where I was. As expected, another disaster week. Several hundreds are gone. I played on many Novo machines here, there and there. Countless free spins on 20 cents on Book of Ra. Not once did I get anything good out of it. Today was the highlight with free spins on 1 Eur at the game. Result: 7 Euro win!!!
Often I had between 30 and 40 euros in the bank and then tried with higher stakes to tear what. Nothing, zero, comma, nothing.
Sizzling seems completely dead to me. It didn't even bring a few cherries or something like that. This Xtra hot has destroyed a man next to me over 150 euros in the bank. There came no matter on which bet.....zero...zero... and again zero.

It's about time that someone takes a closer look at the Novo TR5 boxes. All this is no longer normal. The difference to the old devices is so obvious.

People, avoid these boxes! Throwing money into a jackdaw is even more productive

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Skeptiker
Rookie
As I wrote in a previous post: The "wins" in these colorful pictures are rather rare, they are not wins but successes or something. The real big, fat wins are made when converting the euros into points. There you win almost only! Really! Throw in 2 Euros. If you get 200 points, you have "won" 200 points. If you get only 190 points, you have "lost" 10 cents. That is the game. Many here still do not really understand this...
If you bet 200 or 100 or even just 10 points and press start, you give these points to look at these colorful pictures. Whether or not there are any that result in a somehow "meaningful" (winning picture...) picture is up to the Slot machine industry. Is no gambling but bombige maintenance. And for it there are no legal defaults! One must not forget that. The defaults apply only to the actual gambling - the Umbuchen. And there the profit ratio is nearly 100%. It's rather rare that someone gets less than 1000 points for a 10.... It's more like 1020. So the poor hall operators almost only make a loss - you can really feel sorry for them...

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Anonym
spinaltap wrote on 02/03/2019 at 22:40: So, last week I had to switch to Novo for the most part as there was no Merkur/Bally where I was. As expected, another disaster week. Several hundreds gone. I played on many Novo machines here, there and there. Countless free spins on 20 cents on Book of Ra. Not once did I get anything good out of it. Today was the highlight with free spins on 1 Eur at the game. Result: 7 Euro win!!!
Often I had between 30 and 40 euros in the bank and then tried with higher stakes to tear what. Nothing, zero, comma, nothing.
Sizzling seems completely dead to me. It didn't even bring a few cherries or something like that. This Xtra hot has destroyed a man next to me over 150 euros in the bank. There came no matter on which bet.....zero...zero... and again zero.

It's about time that someone takes a closer look at the Novo TR5 boxes. All this is no longer normal. The difference to the old devices is so obvious.

People, avoid these boxes! Throwing money into a jackdaw is even more productive.

Yup so it went me in January and February until I had kb more. When I threw in mid-February in a box about 120 nix came a czeche went on it to 30 tray mummies full then beetles full in the FS then 40 times four heads. He was on it for five minutes. After filling up he got another 60 euro beetle so full three turners later five mummies on thirty cents. A joke I decided after that not to get screwed anymore. Of course he did not speak a word of German. I hope I stay Spielo free. Btw Spielo free

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ExtremZocker
Skeptic wrote on 27/02/2019 at 19:42: I'm reading a lot of Manipulation here right now. Why manipulate the boxes? That was until 2014 rather times the case, until then there was still the so-called minimum payout ratio of 60%. Since the elimination of the same and the glorious TR5 no box needs to be manipulated! There are hardly any gaming-relevant laws left that the manufacturers / operators have to adhere to. Better said, which they can circumvent without much effort
Everyone knows the Rubbelfix lots. On the back it says how often each win is available. Quite in the same way it is also with the automats. If a "bull's eye" is out, there will be no more big wins in a certain (usually very, very long) period of time. Thus it can be calculated already with the installation of the automats completely exactly, what a box will give. Who is good (as a hall operator) can say already then exactly what he will earn
The coincidence (program-technically a still unsolved problem - better said pseudo-coincidence ) determines thus only, when the "wins" are given. So if most of the money has already gone out at the beginning, nothing more will come so fast. (Here, by the way, the "zero position" plays no role, has nothing to do with it) This is the feeling that every player knows: The boxes throw less and less until finally nothing more.

I say cheating !

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Anonym
I can tell you with certainty that equipment is manipulated, I know 2 operators who do this. But the boxes throw very well, what the operators I know do, they replace certain parts with Russian components that manipulate the payment of the boxes to pay less tax...
And as said above, you do not need to manipulate the boxes because each box anyway only throws when he has taken something, so minus makes a machine never. It is only about taxes... And I do not imagine that but in the halls where I know I have the most violent wins and in the halls where a German belongs and he also has a hall at the main station so he has so 7 halls, and there I have only lost.... so my thought is that if you use such a hardware to save taxes used the boxes run better.... I am pretty sure about that...
I assume that the chip also takes into account the German tax and distributes less... If you know any with this kind of Manipulation then test the time... But you need an insider...but is already awesome...

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pi_nazz
i think that some of the talk here of Manipulation it only wrong to audruck bring ... I call it simply so-called "updated". Is then called from spielhall side "security update" 😂
Every week comes the bird with his sh*iss laptop and plays new game software on. The games still look exactly the same as always only run felt ix 1000 times as bad. The only thing that is certain with security update: the customer / player vewinnt with SAFETY NOTHING MORE. 🚮
Novo has really once made fun (before 2017 now - to offer his customer such a disgusting shit I can not understand The do not seriously believe that anyone is still enthusiastic about their hanging non-running. nichtzbringende boxes. Me would not even this dräcks 2€ gebuche annoy but so extremely player hostile as novos run. ..I would already as hard on the edge of legality title ⚰️
Probably has to do with Player protection 😂 - I think novomatic protects players extremely from wins 👍
PS: I have deep the "needle in" but at some point is also times end with fun - the shit I leave meanwhile left 🚮

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Anonym
pi_nazz wrote on 31.03.2019 at 14:59: I think that some of the talk here of Manipulation it only wrong to audruck bringen ... I call it simply so-called "ge updated". Is then called from spielhallseite "security update" 😂
Every week comes the bird with his sh*iss laptop and plays new games software on. The games still look exactly the same as always only run felt ix 1000 times as bad. The only thing that is certain with security update: the customer / player vewinnt with SAFETY NOTHING MORE. 🚮
Novo has really once made fun (before 2017 now - to offer his customer such a disgusting shit I can not understand The do not seriously believe that anyone is still excited about their hanging non-running. nichtzbringende boxes. Me would not even this dräcks 2€ gebuche annoy but so extremely player hostile as novos run. ..I would already as hard on the edge of legality title ⚰️
Probably has to do with Player protection 😂 - I think novomatic protects players extremely from wins 👍
PS: I have deep the "needle in" but at some point is also end with fun - the shit I leave meanwhile left 🚮

Finally someone who shares my point of view. I find's also funny that the Novos only eat and pay nothing at FS earlier ten years ago you have on 20 tray still with K, A, J Q, 10 still managed 250-400 you get nothing today. If you are lucky 50-60 but what is then you put high and ? Turbo booking possible everything is gone. I have so often also had higher 60-80 subject FS and no 50 euros and vorallem no extensions. The new games are all junk. Funny book of fixed ran well was then gone. book of Maya ran well was then gone. Of course errors and manipulation. The truth is that fixed throws ten thousand sooner than normal Ra and that's why it was removed

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S****r
The Novos are the worst of all. Merkur, Maximus and Bally you have to play carefully small to notice if something goes and with a little luck you find times nen good Merkur with 10Euro bet 200-300 gives.

But Novoline? Nobody plays in our hall anymore. They are unoccupied around the clock. Which is no wonder.

One pushes nen ten purely. Over on the point memory come from the 10 euros, 9 euros. Directly one euro away without ever having played.
Then a game, it doesn't matter. 10ct or 20ct. Either one is after 2 Min the money loose, or one gets perhaps books, which pay 5-10x the employment and hardly extend.
If one times 20 euro then draufstehen has and rausbuch will, on the money memory again only 18-19 euro arrive. Again one stolen.

I do not know what Novoline wants to achieve with it, because with it no more conversion is obtained. Or do they seriously believe that the less you play, the more you get? Maybe at the beginning, but eventually even the last addict has understood and no longer plays Novos.

In our Spielo, the rear door is broken...it hasn't been repaired for weeks, supposedly because the spare parts take so long.
I think rather, that is no longer repaired, because it is no longer worth it for the few weeks.

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