Idiot85 wrote on 19/12/2018 at 19:39: Hello, so I am of the opinion that the devices are manipulated. I have 700 euro iin a box thrown and 2 times FS bejommen. Once 20 cents once 60. no time he gave what 400 euro on 20-40 cents tray. No time FS. This is pure rip-off. This Kruger chain manipulate gerate. Now do not come to me with I am stupid! Icg know that it was hollow but I can not tell anyone that the box 0 times that gives no matter what game. As if there jenand what has set.
when I hear such a bullshit! age my grandparents have played for 40 years 2 times a week lotto and never had 6 correct, lotto manipulated certainly also
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23rd Feb. 2019, at 08:51 pm CET#32
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Uh, what do you mean bullshit here. I played now since September 2018 until about 2 weeks ago daily on Novo devices. If you do that and then still think there would be everything right, sorry, then you're not quite there. Free spins, no matter on which bet there was enough and always most ridiculous wins. The difference to Bally Wulff and Merkur TR5 devices is obvious, since you can very well still win well from time to time. Today at the Bally on 40 cent at Rally Dakar 300 euros won. 40 cent free spins on the Novo always resulted in around 30 euros.
In a bar that I visit regularly, there is a TR5 Novo since October, which gives basically no matter on what bet mikrigste free spins wins.
This has already spread to all players. Idiot85 is absolutely right.
In the history of the lotto there have been scandals, which were always quickly swept under the carpet. All payers of the Tipper are electronically read and processed. So why the in advance everything that was tipped. Now everyone can make his own thoughts
At the moment, the win at the machines is very very difficult and one drives only losses (at least I).
I "Zocke "now about 18 years and know how the machines tick.But what is currently going on in the casinos
is not normal.I have since 2014 no more wins had and that with a stake of about "400-500 euros"
since everyone can calculate how much loss that is in the year.In my opinion, the machine software is so
so "maliciously" adjusted that playing is no longer worthwhile as in the past.Erlich gesagt costs me the
nerves to lose constantly also time and a lot of money.I wanted to go to the consumer center and the
and the "fraud on the player" indicate.
spinaltap wrote on 02/23/2019 8:51 pm: Uh, what do you mean bullshit. I've been playing Novo equipment daily now since September 2018 until about 2 weeks ago. If you do that and then still think there would be everything right, sorry, then you're not all there. Free spins, no matter on which bet there was enough and always most ridiculous wins. The difference to Bally Wulff and Merkur TR5 devices is obvious, since you can very well still win well from time to time. Today at the Bally on 40 cent at Rally Dakar 300 euros won. 40 cent free spins on the Novo always resulted in around 30 euros.
In a bar that I visit regularly, there is a TR5 Novo since October, which gives basically no matter on what bet mikrigste free spins wins.
This has already spread to all players. Idiot85 is absolutely right.
In the history of the lotto there have been scandals, which were always quickly swept under the carpet. All payers of the Tipper are electronically read and processed. So why the in advance everything that was tipped. Now everyone can make his own thoughts
if i invite you to a dice game and you see that my dice are rigged, will you continue to play? no because you are sure to be cheated, but how many pay in umpteen times again and then say that there is Manipulation? in these cases there are only 2 possibilities who claims that is lying or is not exactly the brightest candle on the cake
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25th Feb. 2019, at 09:19 am CET#35
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Dbac79 wrote on 02/23/2019 23:02 PM
if i invite you to a dice game and you see that my dice are rigged, will you continue to play? no because you are sure to be cheated, but how many pay in umpteen times again and then say that there is Manipulation? in these cases there are only 2 possibilities the one who claims that is lying or is not exactly the brightest candle on the cake
???? Do not understand what you want to say ?????
I was yesterday in a Dönerimbiss and have there nen 10s stuffed into the Novo. Machine of course by code previously been unlocked.
Book of Ra in 30 minutes 6 times free spins get on 20 cent bet. Never got out over 30 euros in the bank. This has been going on for months, over and over again. Frustrated I changed the game and tried a few games with higher stakes. Not one ridiculous hit scored. In a large Spielo at my place of residence there are 4 Bally devices. In far periphery then none more. There are regularly almost fierce arguments about it. They are not so popular for nothing.
???? Don't understand what you are trying to say ?????
I was yesterday in a Dönerimbiss and have there nen 10s stuffed into the Novo. Machine of course by code previously been unlocked.
Book of Ra in 30 minutes 6 times free spins get on 20 cent bet. Never got out over 30 euros in the bank. This has been going on for months, over and over again. Frustrated I changed the game and tried a few games with higher stakes. Not one ridiculous hit scored. In a large Spielo at my place of residence there are 4 Bally devices. In far periphery then none more. There are regularly almost fierce arguments about it. They are not so popular for nothing.
It's clear what he wants to say with that.
You claim that the boxes are manipulated, and yet you continue to play with them.
Do you think that's normal?
???? Don't understand what you are trying to say ?????
I was yesterday in a Dönerimbiss and have there nen 10s stuffed into the Novo. Machine of course by code previously been unlocked.
Book of Ra in 30 minutes 6 times free spins get on 20 cent bet. Never got out over 30 euros in the bank. This has been going on for months, over and over again. Frustrated I changed the game and tried a few games with higher stakes. Not one ridiculous hit scored. In a large Spielo at my place of residence there are 4 Bally devices. In far periphery then none more. There are regularly almost fierce arguments about it. They are not so popular for nothing.
so if you don't understand my text, then you certainly don't understand probability calculation, which is necessary to understand gambling
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26th Feb. 2019, at 07:33 am CET#38
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The text was written very confused I think. I did not claim that the boxes are manipulated. As a long-time player, I only notice that nothing works on the Novos anymore. Therefore, I play on it only exceptionally, see kebab snack. Interesting would be times and that no one here can say definitively how the payout ratio on such a new Novo so is. And what the adjustable modes so mean, game variants I mean. Is displayed below. Designation e.g. 2 LA, 2 JA and others. The machine in this bar is set to variant 2VA. During the game it gives line wins from time to time, also five of a kind in the higher range. During the free spins, however, is always and basically Obergeiz announced.
I play Pharao` Tomb for years. Before TR5 I have always won quite high free spins on 10 cents (up to 250 euros). The version on TR5 devices has not paid a single time in the free spins in countless attempts to do so. Not even 20 euros win came out there in the peak.
spinaltap wrote at 07:33, on 02/26/2019
The text was written very confused I think. I did not claim that the boxes are rigged. I just notice as a longtime player that nothing works on the Novos anymore. Therefore, I play on it only exceptionally, see kebab snack. Interesting would be times and that no one here can say definitively how the payout ratio on such a new Novo so is. And what the adjustable modes so mean, game variants I mean. Is displayed below. Designation e.g. 2 LA, 2 JA and others. The machine in this bar is set to variant 2VA. During the game it gives line wins from time to time, also five of a kind in the higher range. During the free spins, however, is always and basically Obergeiz announced.
I play Pharao` Tomb for years. Before TR5 I have always won quite high free spins on 10 cents (up to 250 euros). The version on TR5 devices has not paid even once in the free spins in countless attempts to do so. Not even 20 euros win came out there in the peak.
I have myself a pair of years ago on the repair of electrical articles of all kind with an acquaintance independently made we have among other things also often devices for refurbishing purposes on site and the game variants are basically codes that show on which "system" the device since the last accounting runs
The play variant can be changed at least before Tr.5 always only after the general ledger and there it gives straight with the Bally boxes the selection between "very playful, playful, normal, weakly, very weakly
As for the weak points I think I do not need to say much about it only so much is said in a test that I mention below you can guess how what runs
Test 1 Machine Red Hot Firepot Single Jackpot - Very Playful
The machine threw the first Jewel Jackpot after 250 € loss after the rebuild
Test 2 Machine Red Hot Firepot Single Jackpot - Very Weak
The machine threw the first jewel jackpot after approx. 6000-7000 € loss after the rebuild
Of course, everything is gambling and a RHFP is not intended to a player to play permanently but up to 10,000 € to give once 1,500 is already Heftig
In addition, told me a friend who makes the accounting for a larger Spielo that a Seven Jackpot about 50,000 € has tied to give once 1,000 €
spinaltap wrote at 07:33, on 02/26/2019
The text was written very confused I think. I did not claim that the boxes are rigged. I just notice as a longtime player that nothing works on the Novos anymore. Therefore, I play on it only exceptionally, see kebab snack. Interesting would be times and that no one here can say definitively how the payout ratio on such a new Novo so is. And what the adjustable modes so mean, game variants I mean. Is displayed below. Designation e.g. 2 LA, 2 JA and others. The machine in this bar is set to variant 2VA. During the game it gives line wins from time to time, also five of a kind in the higher range. During the free spins, however, is always and basically Obergeiz announced.
I play Pharao` Tomb for years. Before TR5 I have always won quite high free spins on 10 cents (up to 250 euros). The version on TR5 devices has not paid a single time in the free spins in countless attempts to do so. Not even 20 euros win came out there in the peak.
but all this still does not mean that anything was manipulated, you said there and there are 20 boxes that throw nothing elsewhere are 5 boxes that constantly bring high wins, it is just as likely that a player manipulates the good boxes as that the manufacturer has manipulated the bad, apart from that, the manufacturer does not even have to manipulate because he always makes plus in the long run. and before now the sentence comes that people are greedy and that is the reason for Manipulation, that is of course completely true but if the manufacturer manipulates it will come out sooner or later and that's it then with the money earned
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when I hear such a bullshit! age my grandparents have played for 40 years 2 times a week lotto and never had 6 correct, lotto manipulated certainly also
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In a bar that I visit regularly, there is a TR5 Novo since October, which gives basically no matter on what bet mikrigste free spins wins.
This has already spread to all players. Idiot85 is absolutely right.
In the history of the lotto there have been scandals, which were always quickly swept under the carpet. All payers of the Tipper are electronically read and processed. So why the in advance everything that was tipped. Now everyone can make his own thoughts
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Novoline rip off.
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I "Zocke "now about 18 years and know how the machines tick.But what is currently going on in the casinos
is not normal.I have since 2014 no more wins had and that with a stake of about "400-500 euros"
since everyone can calculate how much loss that is in the year.In my opinion, the machine software is so
so "maliciously" adjusted that playing is no longer worthwhile as in the past.Erlich gesagt costs me the
nerves to lose constantly also time and a lot of money.I wanted to go to the consumer center and the
and the "fraud on the player" indicate.
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Novoline rip off.
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if i invite you to a dice game and you see that my dice are rigged, will you continue to play? no because you are sure to be cheated, but how many pay in umpteen times again and then say that there is Manipulation? in these cases there are only 2 possibilities who claims that is lying or is not exactly the brightest candle on the cake
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???? Do not understand what you want to say ?????
I was yesterday in a Dönerimbiss and have there nen 10s stuffed into the Novo. Machine of course by code previously been unlocked.
Book of Ra in 30 minutes 6 times free spins get on 20 cent bet. Never got out over 30 euros in the bank. This has been going on for months, over and over again. Frustrated I changed the game and tried a few games with higher stakes. Not one ridiculous hit scored. In a large Spielo at my place of residence there are 4 Bally devices. In far periphery then none more. There are regularly almost fierce arguments about it. They are not so popular for nothing.
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It's clear what he wants to say with that.
You claim that the boxes are manipulated, and yet you continue to play with them.
Do you think that's normal?
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so if you don't understand my text, then you certainly don't understand probability calculation, which is necessary to understand gambling
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The text was written very confused I think. I did not claim that the boxes are manipulated. As a long-time player, I only notice that nothing works on the Novos anymore. Therefore, I play on it only exceptionally, see kebab snack. Interesting would be times and that no one here can say definitively how the payout ratio on such a new Novo so is. And what the adjustable modes so mean, game variants I mean. Is displayed below. Designation e.g. 2 LA, 2 JA and others. The machine in this bar is set to variant 2VA. During the game it gives line wins from time to time, also five of a kind in the higher range. During the free spins, however, is always and basically Obergeiz announced.
I play Pharao` Tomb for years. Before TR5 I have always won quite high free spins on 10 cents (up to 250 euros). The version on TR5 devices has not paid a single time in the free spins in countless attempts to do so. Not even 20 euros win came out there in the peak.
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I have myself a pair of years ago on the repair of electrical articles of all kind with an acquaintance independently made we have among other things also often devices for refurbishing purposes on site and the game variants are basically codes that show on which "system" the device since the last accounting runs
The play variant can be changed at least before Tr.5 always only after the general ledger and there it gives straight with the Bally boxes the selection between "very playful, playful, normal, weakly, very weakly
As for the weak points I think I do not need to say much about it only so much is said in a test that I mention below you can guess how what runs
Test 1 Machine Red Hot Firepot Single Jackpot - Very Playful
The machine threw the first Jewel Jackpot after 250 € loss after the rebuild
Test 2 Machine Red Hot Firepot Single Jackpot - Very Weak
The machine threw the first jewel jackpot after approx. 6000-7000 € loss after the rebuild
Of course, everything is gambling and a RHFP is not intended to a player to play permanently but up to 10,000 € to give once 1,500 is already Heftig
In addition, told me a friend who makes the accounting for a larger Spielo that a Seven Jackpot about 50,000 € has tied to give once 1,000 €
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but all this still does not mean that anything was manipulated, you said there and there are 20 boxes that throw nothing elsewhere are 5 boxes that constantly bring high wins, it is just as likely that a player manipulates the good boxes as that the manufacturer has manipulated the bad, apart from that, the manufacturer does not even have to manipulate because he always makes plus in the long run. and before now the sentence comes that people are greedy and that is the reason for Manipulation, that is of course completely true but if the manufacturer manipulates it will come out sooner or later and that's it then with the money earned
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