Sprengsatz wrote on 07.01.2022 at 01:23
This is the only casino I have noticed so far with Löwenplay. With Bonus money from zb free spins there is no tax deducted. Which is also correct. Because strictly speaking, all the casinos that have the RTP on 90 cheat us.
with platinum also not, if you play with bonus money
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Gerstosteron wrote on 07/01/2022 at 00:47 PM
That was his statement
Whereby all this also does not fit, because at Winfest is actually always 30x Wager and not 35x
Very strange the whole thing
He has lied or simply made a mistake
Both on the page of Winfest and in the comment of the casino employee 35x is mentioned.
Royal777 wrote on 07/01/2022 at 14:45
He lied or simply made a mistake
Mentioned 35x both on Winfest's page and in the casino employee's comment.
If it is 35x it can fit after all with the 3500 Wagern as the TE said it.
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Gerstosteron wrote on 07.01.2022 at 14:56
If it is 35x it can fit with the 3500 Wagern after all, as the TE said it.
From the HP:
6. This bonus must be wagered 35 times before it can be converted to real money. The wagering requirement is based on the bonus amount awarded.
He Deposited 50€ and got 100% (50€)
35 x 50€ = 1.750€
Of this amount he has wagered 47%, therefore a little more than 800€.
How did he reach his 1.000€ limit?
- Other deposits
- Slots played that do not dare
Possibly there is also a completely different answer...
The withdrawal of the bonus balance is possible if you wager the bonus amount 35 times or more. The stake per game or per spin may not exceed €5. You have 14 days to fulfill the bonus conditions. After 14 days, the entire bonus credit and the winnings achieved up to that point expire.
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Gerstosteron wrote on 07.01.2022 at 15:22: Yes but possibly the special Deposit bonus also had other conditions
I agree with you about the time. But something else than 35 times the bonus amount will probably not exist. I exclude it 100% that the employee of Winfest makes false statements in the forum...
Royal777 wrote on 07/01/2022 at 15:36
I agree with you on the timing. But I don't think there will be anything other than 35 times the bonus amount. I rule it out 100% that the Winfest employee makes false statements in the forum...
No, I don't think so either. But here some statements just do not fit together. In addition, there are the insults to each other. Hm
It will probably be best if you just find a compromise. Believe here both sides are not entirely innocent
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Gerstosteron wrote on 07.01.2022 at 15:41
Nah I don't think so either. But here some statements just do not fit together. In addition, the insults mutually. Hm
It will probably be best if you just find a compromise. Believe here both sides are not quite innocent
The compromise was found....
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/winfest-betrug-262579/3/#p263845
There is no bonus at Winfest with 30 times the total stake or 35 times the total stake. that is simply a lie. Just like it was with the few thousand euros stakes....
Here in the forum is constantly lied and something added...
I think we made it...his account will be reopened immediately and he still has to wager his Bonus money (150.73 €) 6x. But he also has the option to cancel the bonus and can pay out 150 € directly. The manager tried to explain to me how they have calculated this 47,..% or 918 € remaining wagering... but honestly I don't get it, because their system works so complicated, no one understands. And then he has also played slots that are calculated differently again...
- Only bonus bets count to wager
- Bonus is Non-Sticky
And the 1000 € limit he has apparently reached with his real money bets
- Bonus bets don't count towards the wager limit
- real money bets don't count towards the bonus wager requirements
Therefore the bonus is also Non-Sticky
The user has played in a kind of "spilt rate". If he bets 1 €, 50 cents were bonus money and 50 cents were real money
In this way he increased both his balance, real money and bonus money
so if someone understands this now, please enlighten me
Didn't Casumo have the same system back then?
You could always withdraw 50% if bonus was not yet wagered.
But Non-Sticky also means for me, that the first 50 euros real money as first
are played first.
Only then the bonus takes effect, and the wagering.
Advantage, if you win with the real money, you can at any time the 50 Euro Bonus
and pay out the remaining win.
But whether this applies to Winfest so, no plan.
Without AutoPlay and with 5s regulation, such casinos are unplayable.
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with platinum also not, if you play with bonus money
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He has lied or simply made a mistake
Both on the page of Winfest and in the comment of the casino employee 35x is mentioned.
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If it is 35x it can fit after all with the 3500 Wagern as the TE said it.
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From the HP:
6. This bonus must be wagered 35 times before it can be converted to real money. The wagering requirement is based on the bonus amount awarded.
He Deposited 50€ and got 100% (50€)
35 x 50€ = 1.750€
Of this amount he has wagered 47%, therefore a little more than 800€.
How did he reach his 1.000€ limit?
- Other deposits
- Slots played that do not dare
Possibly there is also a completely different answer...
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Normally you have at Winfest also 14 days time to roll a Deposit bonus
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I agree with you about the time. But something else than 35 times the bonus amount will probably not exist. I exclude it 100% that the employee of Winfest makes false statements in the forum...
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No, I don't think so either. But here some statements just do not fit together. In addition, there are the insults to each other. Hm
It will probably be best if you just find a compromise. Believe here both sides are not entirely innocent
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The compromise was found....
https://www.gamblejoe.com/forum/online-casinos/allgemeines/winfest-betrug-262579/3/#p263845
There is no bonus at Winfest with 30 times the total stake or 35 times the total stake. that is simply a lie. Just like it was with the few thousand euros stakes....
Here in the forum is constantly lied and something added...
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- Only bonus bets count to wager
- Bonus is Non-Sticky
And the 1000 € limit he has apparently reached with his real money bets
- Bonus bets don't count towards the wager limit
- real money bets don't count towards the bonus wager requirements
Therefore the bonus is also Non-Sticky
The user has played in a kind of "spilt rate". If he bets 1 €, 50 cents were bonus money and 50 cents were real money
In this way he increased both his balance, real money and bonus money
so if someone understands this now, please enlighten me
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You could always withdraw 50% if bonus was not yet wagered.
But Non-Sticky also means for me, that the first 50 euros real money as first
are played first.
Only then the bonus takes effect, and the wagering.
Advantage, if you win with the real money, you can at any time the 50 Euro Bonus
and pay out the remaining win.
But whether this applies to Winfest so, no plan.
Without AutoPlay and with 5s regulation, such casinos are unplayable.
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