My personal sobering conclusion about online casinos with the support of 8...
6th Oct. 2020, at 01:51 am CEST#71
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t****m wrote on 06/20/2019 at 10:43 am: I have had my share of experiences in various casinos lately with the help of 8 player friends.
It is amazing how congruent our opinions on the individual casinos are.
We all without exception have been playing in Online Casinos for a very long time. In some cases, well over 10 years (StarGames)
The whole "test" took place over the period of just under a year. All "testers" have played in the same casinos
and the stakes were between 20 cents to a maximum of 1 euro per spin.
The highest single win of the 9 testers was 800 euros on 80 cents on the Play N Go game Book of Dead.
The second highest single win was 260 euros on bonus games in the Pragmatic Games game Gold Rush.
Now in short form to the individual casinos:
RIZK (Feeding after registration to then get worse and worse until as good as nothing comes, RTP is maintained only by small wins, Wheel of RIZK is a very bad joke because there never come anything - service is underground)
SlotsMillion (same handling as at RIZK...absolutely underground)
Lapalingo (feeding as so often and then it only goes downhill - extremely stroppy incompetent service)
LordLucky (belongs to Lapalingo...same approach as Lapalingo)
CasinoEuro (none of the 9 testers was able to win even one Euro here, totally disgusting rip-off, support is somehow non-existent)
Frank & Fred (here you were allowed to play with your money for a while in the beginning but not win, after that it only went downhill)
Fairplay (should change its name...also here none of the 9 testers could win something...zero support and slow games come in addition)
Twin (also a joke without any win of the 9 testers, also here the support is bad)
Videoslots (here all have been able to play at the beginning and also sometimes pay out something, this went so about 4 weeks...then the casino was dead for all of us)
LVBet (worked for a while with fake Novoline games, also here there was only one payout with 9 players)
Unibet (is only bad, with all test participants no wins, if you complain to the support you fly out)
Ikibu (feeding and indeed with without exception all 9 participants exactly 1 x...then it went only downward)
Dunder (absolutely the same procedure as ikibu)
Not listed here are the former big OCs like StarGames, Quasar, VIKS. These are now all no longer active on the German market.
At these casinos, at least I had wins and also higher payouts every now and then until the beginning of 2018. At Quasar, I was even seen on 1 year in the plus.
The other competitors have also made the same experience.
Also still played at: Platin, Duelz, GUTS, energy,betsson, stake7, energy, platin...... ... ..All the same miserable garbage!!!!
The current casinos are just huge money destroying machines for us.
Each of us has lost between 15 and 20 TD euros in the test period and there was not a hint of a chance in hindsight.
It is also no longer exciting to play. Entertainment factor is no longer there at all.
Since we all independently of each other amazingly similar to absolutely the same experiences have made what the individual casinos are concerned we are of the opinion that it is
in these casinos can not go with right things. The intersection is simply too large.
I currently consider this to be a giant scam machine.
Whether MGA or whichever supervisory authorities allegedly control compliance with the regulations. I / we don't believe a word of it.
Conclusion: That one does not become rich from playing should probably be clear to everyone who had not only singing and clapping in school. But the fact that this hobby is no longer even remotely fun, despite its high cost, should inspire everyone to think about stopping.
For the 9 of us, the current OC market is a huge scam and rip-off machine.
We have had our accounts deleted in all of the above casinos. There are fewer and fewer casinos and all the new casinos are getting even weirder.
i have to agree quite honestly to 95% of your contribution... so the reality looks. even if times the one or other claims for him everything would be different experience-technically or the impression conveys he would win a lot or regularly (he)...these are short-lived individual phenomena and also for him it is guaranteed the overwhelming exception, the majority of the time it wiird him like you and me go...of it one must simply not be blinded. because I would like to claim that we permanent gamblers, at least a part of us, have enough and also many years of competent and knowledgeable experience to know that the reality now looks like you described it for the most part. 97% of the OC's are just greedy rip-off companies who can't get their necks full and who morally don't give a shit if you have fun and basically still want to offer the customer somewhere at least a halfway acceptable product. that your or my or his game should be so different from each other is just nonsense. especially if one is already long enough simply... there can come who wants and blablabla claim... in the end, it is the same for all of us. as I said, even if someone has temporarily n lucky streak and ne wave rides... sooner or later and I claim mostly sooner than later he sits again with us in the same boat and curses and vomits because of losing, busts, etc. and immediately...
i could say to many of your mentioned casinos also still in detail what however I erspar me that will only summarize say that as already mentioned there are really few to no fair casinos more. everywhere you just feel that you are prevented from winning or blocked in the amount of the wins.... that just makes no bock. Videoslots I still like the best but I can say exactly that I have good times and some wins ... but the same again take... and if you times a few hunnis erspielst then can times rather pay out immediately because after a two big wins you can be sure that only times no further goes if at all directly again jo-jo effect coal away^^
so nothing destotrotz I have to mention that I also often times several thousand wins but I also put a lot and compared to what I win even if the sometimes quite nice sums are with what I leave in the end also there...... there is not much... if you keep that in mind then the few thousand you can then pay out not worth much if you consider what price you had to pay for it...
i know all this and still I would like to go now and then still my hobbie and daddeln... and then I take that just in buy that I know wherever I go... what good want the times nicely expressed with guaranteed certainty all not for me... so it is basically so that no matter who or where, how or what... in the end they all just want you to leave your money with them. plain and simple... all vultures! nevertheless, you should choose very carefully where you can / must be practically least pulled over the table....
and for me that is definitely Videoslots, mrvegas, bitstarz, tipico. and all other casinos I avoid quite simply. because I already know that they all only have one thing in mind.... and that definitely from a certain point or in some way is ultimately ALWAYS influenced to your disadvantage, then I would like to (have to) at least as little as possible upset about it. And that falls to me just easiest there, where I'm now times the least shit. Point xD
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6th Oct. 2020, at 11:51 am CEST#72
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I've been keeping track of every single spin for more than a year now. Statistics with tens of millions of spins on hundreds of slots in dozens of casinos.
I had extreme lucky streaks with several times over 1000x within one hour. And I had weeks in which with exactly the same conditions maybe 2 slots even went into the free spins
I have played at casinos that you should not go to. Just because of strange bonus conditions, licenses or bad reputation. And I still play in casinos that are counted as TOP casinos on all popular sites.
Grade last week I have achieved payouts on three different casinos despite high wager. Now two days absolutely nothing
Sure something can be manipulated. But not on the reputable sites with the known licenses. No casino wants to lose its expensive MGA license. The Manipulation takes place elsewhere
On the one hand on the technical side. Just look what RTP your slot offers in the casino. RTP and bonus buys can be changed by the casino. But that's all. There's no one sitting there looking at Max Mustermann's fingers and saying, "Hey, let's let him win so much that he goes bust right before the wager. That'll be fun."
No - watch out for the phrase - it's a game of chance. If you have shit on your foot, you have shit on your foot. The real manipulation takes place in your head. Bonus money is everywhere. At every corner we see (of course) only the Big Wins. But it's always the others who win. I want that too. I can do that too. So Deposit and always, always, always bet higher
What the thread creator should criticize here is not the fraud of the casino. It is the unreasonableness of us humans to be in control of ourselves and not always believe that we are the center of attention
Well, but there are already many coincidences, would like to name just a few
1 Why do I end up, for example, 8 times at exactly 200 plus minus a few euros
So I pay 50 come somehow on 200.
Then down to 80, free spins again 197 etc etc .
Find that already strange
Play a game have a big hit and then a long time the game is closed.
Why can I play the first 50 sometimes long, and the 2,3,4 immediately goes down the drain no matter what stake which game
I am aware that the casino always wins, but there are just too many coincidences
I think you can explain a lot with the RTP. The fluctuations in the individual slots just.
But what I can not explain for years, is the phenomenon, which you probably all know:
If it runs really well, then it also runs really well in different slots of different manufacturers.
Although this is supposed to be independent of each other.
And when it runs really bad, you can play whatever you want, nothing comes.
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6th Oct. 2020, at 12:50 pm CEST#75
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Begbie wrote on 06.10.2020 at 12:24 pm: I think you can explain a lot with the RTP. The fluctuations in the individual slots halt.
But what I can not explain for years, is the phenomenon, which you probably all know:
If it runs really well, then it also runs really well in different slots of different manufacturers.
Although this is supposed to be independent of each other.
And when it runs really bad, you can play whatever you want, nothing comes.
That's what happens sometimes. But you really have to be careful, at some point the switch is "flipped" again and from then on it only goes down....
Short and sweet I have already reported more often on this, it is in my opinion 100% manipulated and calculated exactly who thinks otherwise I'm sorry I have played online myself for 3 years and also experienced the same scenarios as many report. I could now call several examples but all have already been mentioned. The only chance to make plus you have as a new customer because they definitely let you win there I am personally 100% sure. Sure you win sometime again what is then mostly a new casino or you have enough minus:) Endless topic the whole eventually checks it each... eyes on...:)
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9th Oct. 2020, at 03:21 pm CEST#78
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You can test this with pleasure times with Mr Green or Rizk the both have the particularly on it new customers to let win. Take a friend girlfriend whatever and let the register there without your devices or wifi to use so complete new customer who has never played. With me in the circle of friends still works that people win at one of the two. At Rizk it was particularly frequent or I think even 100%. I have there including my girlfriend 4 people already register and all were with 50 euros starting capital at about 1000 euros win just like me in the beginning
If someone comes around the corner and thinks he has already deposited a lot of money and won nothing, then he has probably already played in one of the other casinos that belong to Rizk:)
Losing phases are part of the game. If they last too long and ruin the fun, you just stop playing.
I see it more like this:
What I bet is more likely to be gone than to bring in a win.
The fun then consists, for example, in the short-term thrill when 2 Scatters have already appeared. These are then the small adrenaline rushes.
Or, against all odds, you suddenly land a Big Win. Then you can get one (...:-) that you get more money back than you gave.
For many, the fun is in imagining the Mega Win, but running into the wall in the practical execution (I admit, it has happened to me from time to time, for example, when the winning pictures appear here, with 20 comments "yes, he spits out really good today").
In general, however, I have more fun to get "something" out with as few deposits as possible. That doesn't always work, there are dry spells, but there is also regularly something around.
I've been playing in Online Casinos since StarGames started with 3 slots, I've always had a break of one or two years in between, and overall I'm in the (manageable) minus, but at least it's been fun so far
By the way, I know both cases: In the beginning it works, then it doesn't.
But there were also registrations in casinos, where immediately nothing ran. Since I've just let it be again immediately.
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Blubbo33 wrote on 06.10.2020 at 12:09: Well, but there are already many coincidences, would like to name just a few
1 Why do I end up for example 8 times at exactly 200 plus minus a few euros
So I pay in 50 come somehow on 200 .
Then down to 80, free spins again 197 etc etc .
Find that already strange
Play a game have a big hit and then a long time the game is closed.
Why can I play the first 50 sometimes long, and the 2,3,4 immediately goes down the drain no matter what stake which game
I am aware that the casino always wins, but there are just too many coincidences
That is why it is an expensive hobby for me
Blubbo33 there are also no coincidences, it is all set by the casino so.I know my slots I play inside and out, and the spins that are repeated constantly with loss.If you do not win, then you do not win.Or when the symbol free spin comes, I see either it is just taken out again or there is a free spin symbol and the 2 others rush past with one or two spins very quickly, that is when the free spin is now approaching, the slots is faster and spins instead of 2 times equal to 4 times to then come to a halt, I have experienced at all casinos and All Slots often, or they become restless and jerky.Or if you start the game in a certain second, I know after 4 or 5 spins already that nothing comes in this game but only frist, or the other way around that it does not frist.I even noticed that after 5 rounds and then again the next 5 rounds the same symbols came, which do not bring any wins, so I go out immediately, because the machine is programmed to eat.Many play without looking closely, they rattle the money down without looking closely at the symbols.And now at the time has every casino what I know everything programmed to eat.Because of the change that should come on 15.10. But there are many here who smile at me and think I would only write nonsense.Through that I play but I have less loss as others who play without attention.
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i have to agree quite honestly to 95% of your contribution... so the reality looks. even if times the one or other claims for him everything would be different experience-technically or the impression conveys he would win a lot or regularly (he)...these are short-lived individual phenomena and also for him it is guaranteed the overwhelming exception, the majority of the time it wiird him like you and me go...of it one must simply not be blinded. because I would like to claim that we permanent gamblers, at least a part of us, have enough and also many years of competent and knowledgeable experience to know that the reality now looks like you described it for the most part. 97% of the OC's are just greedy rip-off companies who can't get their necks full and who morally don't give a shit if you have fun and basically still want to offer the customer somewhere at least a halfway acceptable product. that your or my or his game should be so different from each other is just nonsense. especially if one is already long enough simply... there can come who wants and blablabla claim... in the end, it is the same for all of us. as I said, even if someone has temporarily n lucky streak and ne wave rides... sooner or later and I claim mostly sooner than later he sits again with us in the same boat and curses and vomits because of losing, busts, etc. and immediately...
i could say to many of your mentioned casinos also still in detail what however I erspar me that will only summarize say that as already mentioned there are really few to no fair casinos more. everywhere you just feel that you are prevented from winning or blocked in the amount of the wins.... that just makes no bock. Videoslots I still like the best but I can say exactly that I have good times and some wins ... but the same again take... and if you times a few hunnis erspielst then can times rather pay out immediately because after a two big wins you can be sure that only times no further goes if at all directly again jo-jo effect coal away^^
so nothing destotrotz I have to mention that I also often times several thousand wins but I also put a lot and compared to what I win even if the sometimes quite nice sums are with what I leave in the end also there...... there is not much... if you keep that in mind then the few thousand you can then pay out not worth much if you consider what price you had to pay for it...
i know all this and still I would like to go now and then still my hobbie and daddeln... and then I take that just in buy that I know wherever I go... what good want the times nicely expressed with guaranteed certainty all not for me... so it is basically so that no matter who or where, how or what... in the end they all just want you to leave your money with them. plain and simple... all vultures! nevertheless, you should choose very carefully where you can / must be practically least pulled over the table....
and for me that is definitely Videoslots, mrvegas, bitstarz, tipico. and all other casinos I avoid quite simply. because I already know that they all only have one thing in mind.... and that definitely from a certain point or in some way is ultimately ALWAYS influenced to your disadvantage, then I would like to (have to) at least as little as possible upset about it. And that falls to me just easiest there, where I'm now times the least shit. Point xD
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I had extreme lucky streaks with several times over 1000x within one hour. And I had weeks in which with exactly the same conditions maybe 2 slots even went into the free spins
I have played at casinos that you should not go to. Just because of strange bonus conditions, licenses or bad reputation. And I still play in casinos that are counted as TOP casinos on all popular sites.
Grade last week I have achieved payouts on three different casinos despite high wager. Now two days absolutely nothing
Sure something can be manipulated. But not on the reputable sites with the known licenses. No casino wants to lose its expensive MGA license. The Manipulation takes place elsewhere
On the one hand on the technical side. Just look what RTP your slot offers in the casino. RTP and bonus buys can be changed by the casino. But that's all. There's no one sitting there looking at Max Mustermann's fingers and saying, "Hey, let's let him win so much that he goes bust right before the wager. That'll be fun."
No - watch out for the phrase - it's a game of chance. If you have shit on your foot, you have shit on your foot. The real manipulation takes place in your head. Bonus money is everywhere. At every corner we see (of course) only the Big Wins. But it's always the others who win. I want that too. I can do that too. So Deposit and always, always, always bet higher
What the thread creator should criticize here is not the fraud of the casino. It is the unreasonableness of us humans to be in control of ourselves and not always believe that we are the center of attention
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1 Why do I end up, for example, 8 times at exactly 200 plus minus a few euros
So I pay 50 come somehow on 200.
Then down to 80, free spins again 197 etc etc .
Find that already strange
Play a game have a big hit and then a long time the game is closed.
Why can I play the first 50 sometimes long, and the 2,3,4 immediately goes down the drain no matter what stake which game
I am aware that the casino always wins, but there are just too many coincidences
That's why it's an expensive hobby for me
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But what I can not explain for years, is the phenomenon, which you probably all know:
If it runs really well, then it also runs really well in different slots of different manufacturers.
Although this is supposed to be independent of each other.
And when it runs really bad, you can play whatever you want, nothing comes.
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That's what happens sometimes. But you really have to be careful, at some point the switch is "flipped" again and from then on it only goes down....
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Oh you mean that you always make super wins.
And if that is not so, is manipulated.
About some statements you can only grab the head.
Maybe you should take a break from gambling.
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If someone comes around the corner and thinks he has already deposited a lot of money and won nothing, then he has probably already played in one of the other casinos that belong to Rizk:)
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I see it more like this:
What I bet is more likely to be gone than to bring in a win.
The fun then consists, for example, in the short-term thrill when 2 Scatters have already appeared. These are then the small adrenaline rushes.
Or, against all odds, you suddenly land a Big Win. Then you can get one (...:-) that you get more money back than you gave.
For many, the fun is in imagining the Mega Win, but running into the wall in the practical execution (I admit, it has happened to me from time to time, for example, when the winning pictures appear here, with 20 comments "yes, he spits out really good today").
In general, however, I have more fun to get "something" out with as few deposits as possible. That doesn't always work, there are dry spells, but there is also regularly something around.
I've been playing in Online Casinos since StarGames started with 3 slots, I've always had a break of one or two years in between, and overall I'm in the (manageable) minus, but at least it's been fun so far
By the way, I know both cases: In the beginning it works, then it doesn't.
But there were also registrations in casinos, where immediately nothing ran. Since I've just let it be again immediately.
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Blubbo33 there are also no coincidences, it is all set by the casino so.I know my slots I play inside and out, and the spins that are repeated constantly with loss.If you do not win, then you do not win.Or when the symbol free spin comes, I see either it is just taken out again or there is a free spin symbol and the 2 others rush past with one or two spins very quickly, that is when the free spin is now approaching, the slots is faster and spins instead of 2 times equal to 4 times to then come to a halt, I have experienced at all casinos and All Slots often, or they become restless and jerky.Or if you start the game in a certain second, I know after 4 or 5 spins already that nothing comes in this game but only frist, or the other way around that it does not frist.I even noticed that after 5 rounds and then again the next 5 rounds the same symbols came, which do not bring any wins, so I go out immediately, because the machine is programmed to eat.Many play without looking closely, they rattle the money down without looking closely at the symbols.And now at the time has every casino what I know everything programmed to eat.Because of the change that should come on 15.10. But there are many here who smile at me and think I would only write nonsense.Through that I play but I have less loss as others who play without attention.
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