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20th Jun. 2019, at 01:11 pm CEST#21
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Bones wrote on 06/20/2019 at 1:04 pm: Okay you smart guys. Then please both be so kind to answer me a question:
Why the hell are you getting screwed through the teeth? If you're convinced that everything is rigged and you're thus being cheated and ripped off, then why are you playing at all? Who is so inconsistent as to expose a scam and then get scammed by the same scam?
That's exactly how I see it, if a coin Dealer sells me fake coins then I report him and will never buy anything there again. With a casino it behaves similarly, if I have the feeling there is manipulated then I report it to the supervisory authority and play there simply never again.
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20th Jun. 2019, at 01:14 pm CEST#22
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@bones
This brings nothing.... this is just like conspiracy theorists who believe in the flat earth, climate deniers or Afd voters.
With logical arguments or even with valid evidence, they are still not dissuaded from their opinion
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20th Jun. 2019, at 01:16 pm CEST#23
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Bones wrote on 06/20/2019 at 1:04 pm: Okay you smart guys. Then please both be so kind to answer me a question:
Why the hell are you getting screwed through the teeth? If you're convinced that everything is rigged and you're thus being cheated and ripped off, then why are you playing at all? Who is so inconsistent as to expose a scam and then get scammed by the same scam?
The world of Online Casinos has changed a lot. More and more casinos are entering the market and everyone wants to make a profit.
The pie is being cut into smaller and smaller pieces and this is the result. I used to gamble a lot more and also win or have fun a lot more. The bottom line is, of course, that I made a loss.
The minus that I used to generate in 5 years, I now make in a maximum of one year. However, as I said, with significantly reduced stakes and deposits.
I will reduce my gaming activities after this experiment again significantly. Of course, this is a kind of addiction I have. Since I'm economically quite well off, I can afford it, but in the meantime it's so sobering and boring that I have no problem minimizing it, despite my addiction.
If this does not change I will quit completely. I will certainly miss it (the actual game) but without the entertainment factor it becomes increasingly boring and uninteresting.
At some point there will be an insider who will expose the practices of these mafia-like companies, but he lives very dangerously.
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20th Jun. 2019, at 01:21 pm CEST#24
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wettibernd wrote on 20.06.2019 at 13:11
Exactly how I see it, if a coin Dealer sells me fake coins then I report him and will never buy anything there again. With a casino it behaves similarly, if I have the feeling there is manipulated then I report the supervisory authority and play there simply never again.
what do you think of who or what the supervisory authority lives? How naive are you actually?
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20th Jun. 2019, at 02:36 pm CEST#25
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Caterpillar wrote on 06/20/2019 at 13:14: @bones
This brings nothing.... this is just like conspiracy theorists who believe in the flat earth, climate deniers or Afd voters.
With logical arguments or even with solid evidence they are still not to be dissuaded from their opinion
What kind of valid evidence?
You don't have any!
By the way, it was also "proven" that the diesel engine destroys our climate....
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20th Jun. 2019, at 02:47 pm CEST#26
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Bones wrote on 06/20/2019 at 1:04 pm: Okay you smart guys. Then please both be so kind to answer me a question:
Why the hell are you getting screwed through the teeth? If you're convinced that everything is rigged and you're thus being cheated and ripped off, then why are you playing at all? Who is so inconsistent as to expose a scam and then get scammed by the same scam?
Boar, what kind of arguments......
Why do I gamble anyway?
Probably because I am addicted to gambling. Just like a lot of people here.
A smoker doesn't stop even though he knows that he can die sooner and more miserably because of it.
Maybe he also has a taste for adventure and freedom.... In any case, he has reasons to continue smoking.
Otherwise he would stop.
Logical. Wouldn't he?
And besides
Nobody has uncovered anything here!
Only determined that something runs "strangely".
But what other proved also still nobody here - and you not at all.
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20th Jun. 2019, at 03:11 pm CEST#27
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Why don't you go into my argument with the RTP and explain that to me!?
Yes I am of the opinion that it does not go there with right things.
But still play because it's fun and I have myself under control.
For me, RTP is just a word in the casinos that has no relevance.
And your assertion that people are to blame when they gamble even though they think something is wrong is also rubbish.
Because even according to your opinion and according to your view of the RTP everyone loses. So here are only idiots no matter what they represent for an opinion.
It's the same everywhere, everyone loses in the long run
You can now say, yes of course because of the RTP .
That's why it is a word without relevance for me, because I can twist it as I want.
In the end, only one conclusion remains.
Who plays in the long run loses, no matter which casino or rtp or whatever.
That's why it's bullshit to pay attention to rtp.
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20th Jun. 2019, at 03:26 pm CEST#28
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Blubbo33 wrote on 06/20/2019 at 15:11: @ bone
Why don't you address my point about the RTP and explain it to me!!!?
Yes I am of the opinion that it does not go there with right things .
But still play because it's fun and I have myself under control.
For me, RTP is just a word in the casinos that has no relevance.
And your claim that people are to blame when they gamble even though they think something is wrong is also rubbish.
Because even according to your opinion and according to your view of the RTP everyone loses. So here are only idiots no matter what they represent for an opinion.
It's the same everywhere, everyone loses in the long run
You can now say, yes of course because of the RTP .
That's why it is a word without relevance for me, because I can twist it as I want.
In the end, only one conclusion remains.
Who plays in the long run loses, no matter which casino or rtp or whatever.
That's why it's bullshit to pay attention to rtp.
Since you ask so nicely I still go into it, but only briefly, because here is probably lost every battle:
RTP is per spin. Now it is clear to all of us that a 1000x Win is so not at all compatible with the RTP. So it is also clear that this can only be an average value. Some are above, some are below. Personally, I am at Videoslots for example "only" 90% RTP, which is already damn low. RTP is calculated according to the individual spins, I hope you are aware of that. A spin where you win 20€ on a 10ct bet is worth as much as a spin where you get nothing on a 100€ bet. It is simply the percentage you get back from your bet on each spin, not the total amount of your deposits and withdrawals. And yes, it is correct. Because I am also a suspicious person, I used to keep track of my spins. I can say that the RTP is correct. If you don't want to believe that, that's up to you. Either you check it scientifically or you don't
And Murks is also only your assertion. But that's where I see the difference between you and me. When I gamble, I am fully aware that I will probably lose the money. Not only do I realize that, I don't even care. I PAY money to be able to play these games. I PAY for the thrill and entertainment. It's just free time, like going to the movies. Of course it's more fun to win, but I honestly don't think about that before I play. However, if I "knew" that it was all a scam and a rip-off, I would NEVER Deposit my money in such a casino. I don't care how the game ends, I just want it to be a fair game. That's why I would never go to a wrestling show, but I would go to a soccer stadium
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20th Jun. 2019, at 03:31 pm CEST#29
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OK...then prove to me that Online Casinos work fairly and correctly. I'm curious about that.
You believe but only what you verzapfen....it's not about RTP etc....it's about the whole.
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20th Jun. 2019, at 03:32 pm CEST#30
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tholzem wrote on 20.06.2019 at 15:31: OK...then prove to me that Online Casinos work fairly and correctly. There I am but curious.
You believe but only what you verzapfen....it is not about RTP etc....it's about the whole.
Why should I be in the burden of proof for anything? You make the same baseless claims in every thread here? Where is your evidence then?
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That's exactly how I see it, if a coin Dealer sells me fake coins then I report him and will never buy anything there again. With a casino it behaves similarly, if I have the feeling there is manipulated then I report it to the supervisory authority and play there simply never again.
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This brings nothing.... this is just like conspiracy theorists who believe in the flat earth, climate deniers or Afd voters.
With logical arguments or even with valid evidence, they are still not dissuaded from their opinion
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The world of Online Casinos has changed a lot. More and more casinos are entering the market and everyone wants to make a profit.
The pie is being cut into smaller and smaller pieces and this is the result. I used to gamble a lot more and also win or have fun a lot more. The bottom line is, of course, that I made a loss.
The minus that I used to generate in 5 years, I now make in a maximum of one year. However, as I said, with significantly reduced stakes and deposits.
I will reduce my gaming activities after this experiment again significantly. Of course, this is a kind of addiction I have. Since I'm economically quite well off, I can afford it, but in the meantime it's so sobering and boring that I have no problem minimizing it, despite my addiction.
If this does not change I will quit completely. I will certainly miss it (the actual game) but without the entertainment factor it becomes increasingly boring and uninteresting.
At some point there will be an insider who will expose the practices of these mafia-like companies, but he lives very dangerously.
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what do you think of who or what the supervisory authority lives? How naive are you actually?
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What kind of valid evidence?
You don't have any!
By the way, it was also "proven" that the diesel engine destroys our climate....
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Boar, what kind of arguments......
Why do I gamble anyway?
Probably because I am addicted to gambling. Just like a lot of people here.
A smoker doesn't stop even though he knows that he can die sooner and more miserably because of it.
Maybe he also has a taste for adventure and freedom.... In any case, he has reasons to continue smoking.
Otherwise he would stop.
Logical. Wouldn't he?
And besides
Nobody has uncovered anything here!
Only determined that something runs "strangely".
But what other proved also still nobody here - and you not at all.
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Why don't you go into my argument with the RTP and explain that to me!?
Yes I am of the opinion that it does not go there with right things.
But still play because it's fun and I have myself under control.
For me, RTP is just a word in the casinos that has no relevance.
And your assertion that people are to blame when they gamble even though they think something is wrong is also rubbish.
Because even according to your opinion and according to your view of the RTP everyone loses. So here are only idiots no matter what they represent for an opinion.
It's the same everywhere, everyone loses in the long run
You can now say, yes of course because of the RTP .
That's why it is a word without relevance for me, because I can twist it as I want.
In the end, only one conclusion remains.
Who plays in the long run loses, no matter which casino or rtp or whatever.
That's why it's bullshit to pay attention to rtp.
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Since you ask so nicely I still go into it, but only briefly, because here is probably lost every battle:
RTP is per spin. Now it is clear to all of us that a 1000x Win is so not at all compatible with the RTP. So it is also clear that this can only be an average value. Some are above, some are below. Personally, I am at Videoslots for example "only" 90% RTP, which is already damn low. RTP is calculated according to the individual spins, I hope you are aware of that. A spin where you win 20€ on a 10ct bet is worth as much as a spin where you get nothing on a 100€ bet. It is simply the percentage you get back from your bet on each spin, not the total amount of your deposits and withdrawals. And yes, it is correct. Because I am also a suspicious person, I used to keep track of my spins. I can say that the RTP is correct. If you don't want to believe that, that's up to you. Either you check it scientifically or you don't
And Murks is also only your assertion. But that's where I see the difference between you and me. When I gamble, I am fully aware that I will probably lose the money. Not only do I realize that, I don't even care. I PAY money to be able to play these games. I PAY for the thrill and entertainment. It's just free time, like going to the movies. Of course it's more fun to win, but I honestly don't think about that before I play. However, if I "knew" that it was all a scam and a rip-off, I would NEVER Deposit my money in such a casino. I don't care how the game ends, I just want it to be a fair game. That's why I would never go to a wrestling show, but I would go to a soccer stadium
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You believe but only what you verzapfen....it's not about RTP etc....it's about the whole.
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Why should I be in the burden of proof for anything? You make the same baseless claims in every thread here? Where is your evidence then?
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