I have recently made my experiences in various casinos with the help of 8 player friends.
It is amazing how congruent our opinions on the individual casinos are.
We all without exception have been playing in Online Casinos for a very long time. In some cases, well over 10 years (StarGames)
The whole "test" took place over the period of just under a year. All "testers" have played in the same casinos
and the stakes were between 20 cents to a maximum of 1 euro per spin.
The highest single win of the 9 testers was 800 euros on 80 cents on the Play N Go game Book of Dead.
The second highest single win was 260 euros on bonus games in the Pragmatic Games game Gold Rush.
Now in short form to the individual casinos:
RIZK (Feeding after registration to then get worse and worse until as good as nothing comes, RTP is maintained only by small wins, Wheel of RIZK is a very bad joke because there never come anything - service is underground)
SlotsMillion (same handling as at RIZK...absolutely underground)
Lapalingo (feeding as so often and then it only goes downhill - extremely stroppy incompetent service)
LordLucky (belongs to Lapalingo...same approach as Lapalingo)
CasinoEuro (none of the 9 testers was able to win even one Euro here, totally disgusting rip-off, support is somehow non-existent)
Frank & Fred (here you were allowed to play with your money for a while in the beginning but not win, after that it only went downhill)
Fairplay (should change its name...also here none of the 9 testers could win something...zero support and slow games come in addition)
Twin (also a joke without any win of the 9 testers, also here the support is bad)
Videoslots (here all have been able to play at the beginning and also sometimes pay out something, this went so about 4 weeks...then the casino was dead for all of us)
LVBet (worked for a while with fake Novoline games, also here there was only one payout with 9 players)
Unibet (is only bad, with all test participants no wins, if you complain to the support you fly out)
Ikibu (feeding and indeed with without exception all 9 participants exactly 1 x...then it went only downward)
Dunder (absolutely the same procedure as ikibu)
Not listed here are the former big OCs like StarGames, Quasar, VIKS. These are now all no longer active on the German market.
At these casinos, at least I had wins and also higher payouts every now and then until the beginning of 2018. At Quasar, I was even seen on 1 year in the plus.
The other competitors have also made the same experience.
Also still played at: Platin, Duelz, GUTS, energy,betsson, stake7, energy, platin...... ... ..All the same miserable garbage!!!!
The current casinos are just huge money destroying machines for us.
Each of us has lost between 15 and 20 TD euros in the test period and there was not a hint of a chance in hindsight.
It is also no longer exciting to play. Entertainment factor is no longer there at all.
Since we all independently of each other amazingly similar to absolutely the same experiences have made what the individual casinos are concerned we are of the opinion that it is
in these casinos can not go with right things. The intersection is simply too large.
I currently consider this to be a giant scam machine.
Whether MGA or whichever supervisory authorities allegedly control compliance with the regulations. I / we don't believe a word of it.
Conclusion: That one does not become rich from playing should probably be clear to everyone who had not only singing and clapping in school. But the fact that this hobby is no longer even remotely fun, despite its high cost, should inspire everyone to think about stopping.
For the 9 of us, the current OC market is a huge scam and rip-off machine.
We have had our accounts deleted in all of the above casinos. There are fewer and fewer casinos and all the new casinos are getting even weirder.
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I've only been playing online slots for a little over 2 years, but I've been a gambler (poker,BJ,roulette) for over 20 years.
I can not share your observations. For me, this just looks like a frustration post where you want to throw up. Sure, you can do, but then bring large-scale conspiracy theories among the people and these with things that are completely pulled out of the hair to justify, is unterirrdisch.
Example: Got yesterday at Fairplay Casino 2 Fairspins and made 90 ct. With it to BoD on 10 ct 10 lines played. On the second spin Full line jackals get, then I stood at about over 8 euros. Then off to Moon Princess, spun 5 times on 60 ct. Got FS, which brought a little over 40 euros. After that, with a grin, I put 50 euros into the payout via trustly. After I last successfully wagered a 100% bonus (50 EUR) at Fairplay and got paid out over 1000 euros, my personal opinion of this casino is absolutely positive. The 50 EUR Deposit was my second deposit ever with them. So I am there well over 1000 euros in the plus.
The other casinos that you list there, I know, but I would rather not play there. You or you have simply grabbed in the shit and have not realized that it is gambling. Losing is part of it.
One more thing: I play for the sake of playing, I have fun doing it. I don't care primarily about the money. Maybe some of you should reflect on your situation with gambling. If he plays to "earn" money, he should better keep his hands off it. It is more advisable to spit in the hands at work.
Totoro wrote on 06/20/2019 at 11:16: I have only been playing online slots for a little over 2 years, but I have been a gambler (poker,BJ,roulette) for over 20 years.
I can't share your observations. To me this just looks like a frustration post where you want to puke your GUTS out. Sure, you can do, but then bring large-scale conspiracy theories among the people and these with things that are completely pulled out of the hair to justify, is unterirrdisch.
Example: Got yesterday at Fairplay Casino 2 Fairspins and made 90 ct. With it to BoD on 10 ct 10 lines played. On the second spin Full line jackals get, then I stood at about over 8 euros. Then off to Moon Princess, spun 5 times on 60 ct. Got FS, which brought a little over 40 euros. After that, with a grin, I put 50 euros into the payout via trustly. After I last successfully wagered a 100% bonus (50 EUR) at Fairplay and got paid out over 1000 euros, my personal opinion of this casino is absolutely positive. The 50 EUR Deposit was my second deposit ever with them. So I am there well over 1000 euros in the plus.
The other casinos that you list there, I know, but I would rather not play there. You or you have simply grabbed in the shit and have not realized that it is gambling. Losing is part of it.
One more thing: I play for the sake of playing, I have fun doing it. I don't care primarily about the money. Maybe some of you should reflect on your situation with gambling. If he plays to "earn" money, he should better keep his hands off it. It is more advisable to spit in the hands at work.
Very good contribution, I think that is also nonsense
Gambling for the sake of gambling is unfortunately hardly possible if it is a gambling addiction. Because then gambling is primarily the satisfaction of the addiction. Hardly anyone will really think they can earn money by gambling. However, many people do not have the necessary gambler's temperament at all and are actually much too conservative with their finances to be able to deal with gambling. These then have expectations of forever long sessions, that on average things will always go reasonably well and every now and then really well. When such people develop a Gambling addiction, it is of course doubly bad. On the one hand bad for the person concerned, because an addiction always has a negative impact on life, on the other hand bad for all of us, because such posts like this one are slowly getting on our nerves
I understand how you get such thoughts, but it is not rational. You go into a casino with certain expectations. The conscious expectations and the unconscious expectations that you want to be halfway seen. Consciously one wants to have fun, compensate losses or try a new game. Unconsciously, one wants to really rake it in and already imagines this figuratively. If now all expectations, consciously and unconsciously, are not fulfilled, the psyche naturally feels cheated. And quickly an explanation is conjured up that fits one's own values. Even hard facts are ignored. For example, that the individual casinos have no influence on the games they offer. This is simply denied, without proof and without evidence. The whole thing is then justified with laughable arguments like: "8 people have tried this and it was exactly the same for all of them!"
First of all, I don't believe a word you say. I don't believe that you have 7 friends who have all played in each of these casinos over a long period of time. In fact, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that you had these experiences all by yourself.
Secondly, I think you are exaggerating. You probably also had wins that you gambled away. Your post actually screams frustration. I think you are addicted and should stop gambling, obviously you can't handle losses.
Third, in the unlikely event that you are just reporting the truth: 8 people would be far from empirical. That would not form a consensus at all
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Hello Totoro,
this is not a frustration post. This is really an exchange of experiences of 9 like-minded people. If you were lucky yesterday, that's good for you.
You can succinctly say that we all have grabbed in the shit. But that is rather unlikely. There is not so much bad luck with so many people. There should have been more highlights (and I don't mean huge winnings)
I'm not in it for the money. I'm about the entertainment. I have a good job. Believe me...I can handle it.
That you would never play at all the other casinos I find strange. There are, for example, all the "top casinos" of the forums.
But well....I am now of the firm opinion (conspiracy theory ) that the Online Casinos are all more or less crooked.
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Bones wrote on 06/20/2019 at 11:30 AM
Very good post, because I think this is bullshit too
Playing for the sake of playing is unfortunately hardly possible if it is a gambling addiction. Because then gambling is primarily satisfaction of the addiction. Hardly anyone will really think they can earn money by gambling. However, many people do not have the necessary gambler's temperament at all and are actually much too conservative with their finances to be able to deal with gambling. These then have expectations of forever long sessions, that on average it always goes reasonably well and every now and then really well. When such people develop a Gambling addiction, it is of course doubly bad. On the one hand bad for the person concerned, because an addiction always has a negative impact on life, on the other hand bad for all of us, because such posts like this one are slowly getting on our nerves
I understand how you get such thoughts, but it is not rational. You go into a casino with certain expectations. The conscious expectations and the unconscious expectations that you want to be halfway seen. Consciously one wants to have fun, compensate losses or try a new game. Unconsciously, one wants to really rake it in and already imagines this figuratively. If now all expectations, consciously and unconsciously, are not fulfilled, the psyche naturally feels cheated. And quickly an explanation is conjured up that fits one's own values. Even hard facts are ignored. For example, that the individual casinos have no influence on the games they offer. This is simply denied, without proof and without evidence. The whole thing is then justified with laughable arguments like: "8 people have tried this and it was exactly the same for all of them!"
First of all, I don't believe a word you say. I don't believe that you have 7 friends who have all played in each of these casinos over a long period of time. In fact, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that you had these experiences all by yourself.
Secondly, I think you are exaggerating. You probably also had wins that you gambled away. Your post actually screams frustration. I think you are addicted and should stop gambling, obviously you can't handle losses.
Third, in the unlikely event that you are just reporting the truth: 8 people would be far from empirical. That would not form a consensus at all.
I also see this more as a frustration post. I personally have been playing in OCs for at least 10 years. And it is actually always an up and down. I must also say that I play higher, so with me it starts with 1€ and stops at 10. I can tell you briefly what happened to me this year alone, in January I came with a few big-hits about 13K in plus (have a few nice pictures in it) February, March, April I gambled away a total of almost 10K, but since 1 May it went up again and I was at the peak since then almost 10K in plus, the last 10 days certainly 5K gambled away again. Sometimes there are times when I win a year nothing worth mentioning and then it goes boom and I land 2 or more super hits in quick succession.
You write that you have gambled away between 15 and 20K in a year and that with 20 cent ice sets??? Maybe 1 Euro???? Do you have time to sleep or eat?
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Bones wrote on 06/20/2019 at 11:30 AM
Very good post, because I think this is bullshit too
Playing for the sake of playing is unfortunately hardly possible if it is a gambling addiction. Because then gambling is primarily satisfaction of the addiction. Hardly anyone will really think they can earn money by gambling. However, many people do not have the necessary gambler's temperament at all and are actually much too conservative with their finances to be able to deal with gambling. These then have expectations of forever long sessions, that on average it always goes reasonably well and every now and then really well. When such people develop a Gambling addiction, it is of course doubly bad. On the one hand bad for the person concerned, because an addiction always has a negative impact on life, on the other hand bad for all of us, because such posts like this one are slowly getting on our nerves
I understand how you get such thoughts, but it is not rational. You go into a casino with certain expectations. The conscious expectations and the unconscious expectations that you want to be halfway seen. Consciously one wants to have fun, compensate losses or try a new game. Unconsciously, one wants to really rake it in and already imagines this figuratively. If now all expectations, consciously and unconsciously, are not fulfilled, the psyche naturally feels cheated. And quickly an explanation is conjured up that fits one's own values. Even hard facts are ignored. For example, that the individual casinos have no influence on the games they offer. This is simply denied, without proof and without evidence. The whole thing is then justified with laughable arguments like: "8 people have tried this and it was exactly the same for all of them!"
First of all, I don't believe a word you say. I don't believe that you have 7 friends who have all played in each of these casinos over a long period of time. In fact, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that you had these experiences all by yourself.
Secondly, I think you are exaggerating. You probably also had wins that you gambled away. Your post actually screams frustration. I think you are addicted and should stop gambling, obviously you can't handle losses.
Third, in the unlikely event that you are just reporting the truth: 8 people would be far from empirical. That would not form a consensus at all.
How do you know they have no influence, just like RTP.
There is no evidence for or against it
That's why I'm always amazed at the matter-of-factness with which you keep writing this to people
The only thing that is certain is that everyone will end up in the red at some point.
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...So I don't know whether you're just letting the psychologist hang out here or maybe you're even one. I don't care either.
Of course I'm addicted in a way.....that's probably everyone who plays regularly.
But...I can afford it and I'm not going broke...but it still stinks to me what's going on in the casinos now.
Since everyone can feel it....and no I had no major wins that I then gambled away again (nothing over 100 euros)
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wettibernd wrote on 06/20/2019 at 11:38: I also see this more as a frustration post. I personally have also been playing in OC`s for at least 10 years. And it is actually always an up and down. I must also say that I play higher, so with me it starts with 1€ and stops at 10. I can tell you briefly what happened to me this year alone, in January I came with a few big-hits about 13K in plus (have a few nice pictures in it) February, March, April I gambled away a total of almost 10K, but since 1 May it went up again and I was at the peak since then almost 10K in plus, the last 10 days certainly 5K gambled away again. Sometimes there are times when I win a year nothing worth mentioning and then it goes boom and I land 2 or more super hits in quick succession.
You write that you have gambled away between 15 and 20K in a year and that with 20 cent ice sets??? Maybe 1 Euro???? Do you have time to sleep or eat?
... just take every day 50 euros....with those you are through in half an hour if nothing runs (rather faster)...and now calculate times 365 x 50...
How was that with the clapping and singing? Were probably your main subjects.
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Blubbo33 wrote on 06/20/2019 at 11:39 AM
How do you KNOW they don't have an impact, just like RTP.
There is no evidence for or against it
That's why I'm always amazed with what matter of fact you keep writing this to people
The only thing that is certain is that everyone will end up in the red at some point.
Exactly that is it...... finally times someone that makes thoughts!
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It is amazing how congruent our opinions on the individual casinos are.
We all without exception have been playing in Online Casinos for a very long time. In some cases, well over 10 years (StarGames)
The whole "test" took place over the period of just under a year. All "testers" have played in the same casinos
and the stakes were between 20 cents to a maximum of 1 euro per spin.
The highest single win of the 9 testers was 800 euros on 80 cents on the Play N Go game Book of Dead.
The second highest single win was 260 euros on bonus games in the Pragmatic Games game Gold Rush.
Now in short form to the individual casinos:
Not listed here are the former big OCs like StarGames, Quasar, VIKS. These are now all no longer active on the German market.
At these casinos, at least I had wins and also higher payouts every now and then until the beginning of 2018. At Quasar, I was even seen on 1 year in the plus.
The other competitors have also made the same experience.
Also still played at: Platin, Duelz, GUTS, energy,betsson, stake7, energy, platin...... ... ..All the same miserable garbage!!!!
The current casinos are just huge money destroying machines for us.
Each of us has lost between 15 and 20 TD euros in the test period and there was not a hint of a chance in hindsight.
It is also no longer exciting to play. Entertainment factor is no longer there at all.
Since we all independently of each other amazingly similar to absolutely the same experiences have made what the individual casinos are concerned we are of the opinion that it is
in these casinos can not go with right things. The intersection is simply too large.
I currently consider this to be a giant scam machine.
Whether MGA or whichever supervisory authorities allegedly control compliance with the regulations. I / we don't believe a word of it.
Conclusion: That one does not become rich from playing should probably be clear to everyone who had not only singing and clapping in school. But the fact that this hobby is no longer even remotely fun, despite its high cost, should inspire everyone to think about stopping.
For the 9 of us, the current OC market is a huge scam and rip-off machine.
We have had our accounts deleted in all of the above casinos. There are fewer and fewer casinos and all the new casinos are getting even weirder.
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I can not share your observations. For me, this just looks like a frustration post where you want to throw up. Sure, you can do, but then bring large-scale conspiracy theories among the people and these with things that are completely pulled out of the hair to justify, is unterirrdisch.
Example: Got yesterday at Fairplay Casino 2 Fairspins and made 90 ct. With it to BoD on 10 ct 10 lines played. On the second spin Full line jackals get, then I stood at about over 8 euros. Then off to Moon Princess, spun 5 times on 60 ct. Got FS, which brought a little over 40 euros. After that, with a grin, I put 50 euros into the payout via trustly. After I last successfully wagered a 100% bonus (50 EUR) at Fairplay and got paid out over 1000 euros, my personal opinion of this casino is absolutely positive. The 50 EUR Deposit was my second deposit ever with them. So I am there well over 1000 euros in the plus.
The other casinos that you list there, I know, but I would rather not play there. You or you have simply grabbed in the shit and have not realized that it is gambling. Losing is part of it.
One more thing: I play for the sake of playing, I have fun doing it. I don't care primarily about the money. Maybe some of you should reflect on your situation with gambling. If he plays to "earn" money, he should better keep his hands off it. It is more advisable to spit in the hands at work.
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Very good contribution, I think that is also nonsense
Gambling for the sake of gambling is unfortunately hardly possible if it is a gambling addiction. Because then gambling is primarily the satisfaction of the addiction. Hardly anyone will really think they can earn money by gambling. However, many people do not have the necessary gambler's temperament at all and are actually much too conservative with their finances to be able to deal with gambling. These then have expectations of forever long sessions, that on average things will always go reasonably well and every now and then really well. When such people develop a Gambling addiction, it is of course doubly bad. On the one hand bad for the person concerned, because an addiction always has a negative impact on life, on the other hand bad for all of us, because such posts like this one are slowly getting on our nerves
I understand how you get such thoughts, but it is not rational. You go into a casino with certain expectations. The conscious expectations and the unconscious expectations that you want to be halfway seen. Consciously one wants to have fun, compensate losses or try a new game. Unconsciously, one wants to really rake it in and already imagines this figuratively. If now all expectations, consciously and unconsciously, are not fulfilled, the psyche naturally feels cheated. And quickly an explanation is conjured up that fits one's own values. Even hard facts are ignored. For example, that the individual casinos have no influence on the games they offer. This is simply denied, without proof and without evidence. The whole thing is then justified with laughable arguments like: "8 people have tried this and it was exactly the same for all of them!"
First of all, I don't believe a word you say. I don't believe that you have 7 friends who have all played in each of these casinos over a long period of time. In fact, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that you had these experiences all by yourself.
Secondly, I think you are exaggerating. You probably also had wins that you gambled away. Your post actually screams frustration. I think you are addicted and should stop gambling, obviously you can't handle losses.
Third, in the unlikely event that you are just reporting the truth: 8 people would be far from empirical. That would not form a consensus at all
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this is not a frustration post. This is really an exchange of experiences of 9 like-minded people. If you were lucky yesterday, that's good for you.
You can succinctly say that we all have grabbed in the shit. But that is rather unlikely. There is not so much bad luck with so many people. There should have been more highlights (and I don't mean huge winnings)
I'm not in it for the money. I'm about the entertainment. I have a good job. Believe me...I can handle it.
That you would never play at all the other casinos I find strange. There are, for example, all the "top casinos" of the forums.
But well....I am now of the firm opinion (conspiracy theory ) that the Online Casinos are all more or less crooked.
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You write that you have gambled away between 15 and 20K in a year and that with 20 cent ice sets??? Maybe 1 Euro???? Do you have time to sleep or eat?
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How do you know they have no influence, just like RTP.
There is no evidence for or against it
That's why I'm always amazed at the matter-of-factness with which you keep writing this to people
The only thing that is certain is that everyone will end up in the red at some point.
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Of course I'm addicted in a way.....that's probably everyone who plays regularly.
But...I can afford it and I'm not going broke...but it still stinks to me what's going on in the casinos now.
Since everyone can feel it....and no I had no major wins that I then gambled away again (nothing over 100 euros)
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... just take every day 50 euros....with those you are through in half an hour if nothing runs (rather faster)...and now calculate times 365 x 50...
How was that with the clapping and singing? Were probably your main subjects.
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Exactly that is it...... finally times someone that makes thoughts!
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