vomvom12 wrote on 11/20/2019 at 4:20 pm
according to the only two criteria that matter...rtp% and variance
let's take for example 2 of the most popular games like:
book of dead rtp: 96.21% Variance: high
bonanza rtp: 96.00% variance: high
my rtp% lower limit is 96.30% - 96.50%. if the value is below that
i don't play the game except for a few exceptions.
and especially not if there is a high variance in addition to the low rtp value
high variance. unfortunately slotcatalog only has three variance levels
levels...low, medium, high because i would rather use book of dead &
bonanza's variance rather as very high which makes both of them of course
even more unprofitable
Everyone's RTP lower limit, if they have one, is different. In games that I particularly enjoyed, the rule then no longer applied to me, otherwise I play nothing below 96%. And exceptions I make at the casino, there more than 92% to find should be very difficult.
Well it does not necessarily better, depending on the distribution of winnings, a slot with lower RTP can be better for the normal player, so the RTP is not an exact value by which you can determine that one slot is more profitable than the other. There are slots that throw out a win almost every spin, but these are then 0.5x and less. And one gets 5000x. With others, then more often times 100-300x is paid out and very rarely 5000x which is much better for many.
Many providers clone their own slots, but often not only sound and picture are different but also the RTP or / and the distribution of winnings. At BTG there are Bonanza, Extra Chili and Who wants to be a Milionair exactly three slots which are very similar. But all of them have different RTP and most likely different prize distributions.
If I have of course only 20€ on the clock then I play also only stakes between 0,10 - 0,20 mostly I take 1% from the bankroll as stake for the benchmark
At WWM, except for a Basegame hit of 21,20€ (0,20 Eins.) he never really threw anything. Although the slot is not bad for daring but in the long run he still eats you down completely.
Fire Joker or Spinions I have not yet tried I will do times.
In the wheels he is once slipped 1mm further to the left next to the middle Jackpot I had also annoyed me because it was in the end again only a 2.0x booster
But the RTP should already be a lot higher than currently 82% or am I wrong?
I'm still quite new in the field, come from the Poker scene but online by the bots hardly still playable
Yep, the question is first with which slots
Really close to RTP you come only after millions of spins, before that the Variance is too large. This is probably the biggest similarity between poker and casino games. In poker it can also happen that 27o beats AA, even 5 hands in a row, yet AA PF is 88% the winning hand - again, this value will settle there only after thousands or more hands
I personally (probably already annoying some with this) can only recommend to use Slot Tracker. There you have quite detailed information about the slots and can track your own play
The problem with VS RTP is that it is not reliable. It happens that, for whatever reason, results are not recorded. These are then also missing in these statistics. In addition, you may play somewhere else, even slot, get nen Epic Win - also missing. Of course, all this settles down, but not in a hurry.
I also just started using the tool a few days ago and have a RTP of less than 60% on one of my favorite slots with current 3k spins. But have often achieved good wins in the past - Twin Spin I mean.
Your 82% is not a reason for concern or a bad omen. It is simply normal, since the RTP is achieved via Big Win
As I said, use the tracker, and let Fire Joker times consistently nen 10s to 0.05 turn. With that you should get quite a few spins and watch the tracker. This will show you best what I mean
MarcT22186 wrote on 11/21/2019 at 3:32 pm
Yep, the question is first at which slots
You only get really close to RTP after millions of spins, before that the Variance is too high. This is probably the biggest similarity between Poker and casino games. In poker it can also happen that 27o beats AA, even 5 hands in a row, yet AA PF is 88% the winning hand - again, this value will settle there only after thousands or more hands
I personally (probably already annoying some with this) can only recommend to use Slot Tracker. There you have quite detailed information about the slots and can track your own play
The problem with VS RTP is that it is not reliable. It happens that, for whatever reason, results are not recorded. These are then also missing in these statistics. In addition, you may play somewhere else, even slot, get nen Epic Win - also missing. Of course, all this settles down, but not in a hurry.
I also just started using the tool a few days ago and have a RTP of less than 60% on one of my favorite slots with current 3k spins. But I have often achieved good wins in the past - Twin Spin I mean.
Your 82% is not a reason for concern or a bad omen. It is simply normal, since the RTP is achieved via Big Win
As I said, use the tracker, and let Fire Joker times consistently nen 10s on 0.05 turn. With that you should get quite a few spins and watch the tracker. This will show you best what I mean
MarcT22186 wrote on 11/21/2019 at 3:32 pm
Yep, the question is first at which slots
You only get really close to RTP after millions of spins, before that the Variance is too high. This is probably the biggest similarity between Poker and casino games. In poker it can also happen that 27o beats AA, even 5 hands in a row, yet AA PF is 88% the winning hand - again, this value will settle there only after thousands or more hands
I personally (probably already annoying some with this) can only recommend to use Slot Tracker. There you have quite detailed information about the slots and can track your own play
The problem with VS RTP is that it is not reliable. It happens that, for whatever reason, results are not recorded. These are then also missing in these statistics. In addition, you may play somewhere else, even slot, get nen Epic Win - also missing. Of course, all this settles down, but not in a hurry.
I also just started using the tool a few days ago and have a RTP of less than 60% on one of my favorite slots with current 3k spins. But I have often achieved good wins in the past - Twin Spin I mean.
Your 82% is not a reason for concern or a bad omen. It is simply normal, since the RTP is achieved via Big Win
As I said, use the tracker, and let Fire Joker times consistently nen 10s on 0.05 turn. With that you should get quite a few spins and watch the tracker. This will show you best what I mean
In terms of poker, I can agree with you that it is by far rarer that one is beaten by 27o at 27s it looks a bit different
I tried the tracker once and after 2.1k spins I got 65.06% RTP. Good wins were also not there, highest win was 12.50 on 0.20
Fire Joker and Spinions I had tried both however it went with both only consistently downward like with all other Slots I tried.
Among them: WWM, BoD, Bonanza, Donuts, Aloha Cluster, Wild North, Merlin, Reactoonz where Reactoonz has the best RTP so far with 112.85%
Maybe I'm doing something wrong or just really unlucky because yesterday and today each deposited 50 and on both days it ran in All Slots down without free spins but certainly at least 50x 2 Scatters
Entertainment value is also zero because it is eaten every time simply down and I come at most times 10 € over Deposit and then goes rapidly to zero
I would be satisfied with a doubling. When playing poker I did it similarly, deposited, doubled, then half down and continue playing only with a win but I do not even come, unfortunately.
To Videoslots my experience after 1 year I could then finally land in July a few good hits. Since then it doesn't matter what you Deposit or play it just gets eaten. But the strange thing is that it is eaten with errors (game not available, reload game, no connection to the server, etc) have uploaded a video here answer from gamblejoe it can only be uploaded Gewinnvideos 😣😣 should I manage it times to upload it to YouTube (have no idea about it) I would post it here. I say only CAUTION VIDEOSLOTS should you ever land a good hit then best somewhere else or first 1 year no longer play there. Despite clear evidence, everything is shot down and just said must be on their equipment or line what good is the fast pay off if you have such a shit🤔🤔
Nickii45 wrote on 23.11.2019 at 14:49: To Videoslots my experience after 1 year I could then finally times in July land a few good hits . Since then it does not matter what you Deposit or play it is only eaten. But the strange thing is that it is eaten with errors (game unavailable, reload game, no connection to the server, etc ) have uploaded a video here answer from gamblejoe it can only be uploaded Gewinnvideos 😣😣 should I get it times to upload it to YouTube (have no idea about it ) I would post it here. I say only CAUTION VIDEOSLOTS should you ever land a good hit then best somewhere else or first 1 year no longer play there. Despite clear evidence, everything is shot down and just said must be on their equipment or line what good is the fast pay off if you have such a shit🤔🤔
Rarely had such cancellations there but know what you mean. If it runs badly and then but really everything goes wrong (game runs slowly, rollers come delayed, No connection, ...)
Same with the RTP first stands highest value at shield extreme..then goes down, and suddenly stands some game with 600 in it from May 🤔🤔 what was never there before as the highest value. I think it is turned at the clock at Videoslots. Deposit there is past me anyway... but it is each to leave yourself. What experience one makes at videoslots. 😣
Kleinkariert wrote on 11/23/2019 at 3:01 pm
Rarely had such crashes there but know what you mean. When it goes bad and then but really everything goes wrong (game runs slow, rollers come delayed, No connection, ...)
Yes but most of the time it happened yes when it was going well and then as if a switch was pressed the errors started and that with all providers. 😖
Nickii45 wrote on 23.11.2019 at 14:49: To Videoslots my experience after 1 year I could then finally times in July land a few good hits . Since then it does not matter what you Deposit or play it is only eaten. But the strange thing is that it is eaten with errors (game unavailable, reload game, no connection to the server, etc ) have uploaded a video here answer from gamblejoe it can only be uploaded Gewinnvideos 😣😣 should I get it times to upload it to YouTube (have no idea) I would post it here. I say only CAUTION VIDEOSLOTS should you ever land a good hit then best somewhere else or first 1 year no longer play there. Despite clear evidence everything is shot down and just said must be on their equipment or line what good is the fast pay off if you have such a shit🤔🤔
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That you have a dry spell has 0 to do with a good win or VS per se. What exactly are you playing for slots and what kind of stakes? Maybe your gaming habit already gives an insight about it. Have you ever dealt with the issue of RTP and volatility?
What kind of clear evidence is that supposed to be? It would be interesting to see how clear or not the evidence is
To upload a video you just have to log in to Youtube with your Google account or, if you don't have one, create one. To upload, simply click on the camera next to the search box and select upload video - wait until completed and done
By the way: the slots are not hosted directly at any OC, but in special data centers. Thus VS has no physical influence on them
Connection failures can have very different causes. However, DDoS attacks or problems with the Internet connection are probably the most common.
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Everyone's RTP lower limit, if they have one, is different. In games that I particularly enjoyed, the rule then no longer applied to me, otherwise I play nothing below 96%. And exceptions I make at the casino, there more than 92% to find should be very difficult.
Well it does not necessarily better, depending on the distribution of winnings, a slot with lower RTP can be better for the normal player, so the RTP is not an exact value by which you can determine that one slot is more profitable than the other. There are slots that throw out a win almost every spin, but these are then 0.5x and less. And one gets 5000x. With others, then more often times 100-300x is paid out and very rarely 5000x which is much better for many.
Many providers clone their own slots, but often not only sound and picture are different but also the RTP or / and the distribution of winnings. At BTG there are Bonanza, Extra Chili and Who wants to be a Milionair exactly three slots which are very similar. But all of them have different RTP and most likely different prize distributions.
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Yep, the question is first with which slots
Really close to RTP you come only after millions of spins, before that the Variance is too large. This is probably the biggest similarity between poker and casino games. In poker it can also happen that 27o beats AA, even 5 hands in a row, yet AA PF is 88% the winning hand - again, this value will settle there only after thousands or more hands
I personally (probably already annoying some with this) can only recommend to use Slot Tracker. There you have quite detailed information about the slots and can track your own play
The problem with VS RTP is that it is not reliable. It happens that, for whatever reason, results are not recorded. These are then also missing in these statistics. In addition, you may play somewhere else, even slot, get nen Epic Win - also missing. Of course, all this settles down, but not in a hurry.
I also just started using the tool a few days ago and have a RTP of less than 60% on one of my favorite slots with current 3k spins. But have often achieved good wins in the past - Twin Spin I mean.
Your 82% is not a reason for concern or a bad omen. It is simply normal, since the RTP is achieved via Big Win
As I said, use the tracker, and let Fire Joker times consistently nen 10s to 0.05 turn. With that you should get quite a few spins and watch the tracker. This will show you best what I mean
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What is a tracker supposed to do?
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In terms of poker, I can agree with you that it is by far rarer that one is beaten by 27o at 27s it looks a bit different
I tried the tracker once and after 2.1k spins I got 65.06% RTP. Good wins were also not there, highest win was 12.50 on 0.20
Fire Joker and Spinions I had tried both however it went with both only consistently downward like with all other Slots I tried.
Among them: WWM, BoD, Bonanza, Donuts, Aloha Cluster, Wild North, Merlin, Reactoonz where Reactoonz has the best RTP so far with 112.85%
Maybe I'm doing something wrong or just really unlucky because yesterday and today each deposited 50 and on both days it ran in All Slots down without free spins but certainly at least 50x 2 Scatters
Entertainment value is also zero because it is eaten every time simply down and I come at most times 10 € over Deposit and then goes rapidly to zero
I would be satisfied with a doubling. When playing poker I did it similarly, deposited, doubled, then half down and continue playing only with a win but I do not even come, unfortunately.
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Rarely had such cancellations there but know what you mean. If it runs badly and then but really everything goes wrong (game runs slowly, rollers come delayed, No connection, ...)
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Yes but most of the time it happened yes when it was going well and then as if a switch was pressed the errors started and that with all providers. 😖
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That you have a dry spell has 0 to do with a good win or VS per se. What exactly are you playing for slots and what kind of stakes? Maybe your gaming habit already gives an insight about it. Have you ever dealt with the issue of RTP and volatility?
What kind of clear evidence is that supposed to be? It would be interesting to see how clear or not the evidence is
To upload a video you just have to log in to Youtube with your Google account or, if you don't have one, create one. To upload, simply click on the camera next to the search box and select upload video - wait until completed and done
By the way: the slots are not hosted directly at any OC, but in special data centers. Thus VS has no physical influence on them
Connection failures can have very different causes. However, DDoS attacks or problems with the Internet connection are probably the most common.
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