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Gambling addiction in general: When madness takes hold of you

Topic created on 23rd Aug. 2021 | Page: 1 of 2 | Answers: 12 | Views: 5,172
Gambsvater
"Hello everyone,
my name is Gambsvater, and I am a gambling addict"

"Hello Gambsvater"

I always had to think of scenes from the AAs in movies when I used to think about telling others about my addiction.

Covering serious things with humor just suits me. I've been able to do that since I was a kid, always being the sponge for my mentally ill single mom.
Parentification is the name of the fun, it's quite funny when you as a little squirt have your crying mother in your arms every evening and have to comfort her. When you have to deal with your mother's suicidal thoughts.

As a result, I remained a "child" for quite a long time, since my own development took a back seat.


About me:
-i am an addict
-i am 25 years old
-good job/live alone/feel alone


I haven't smoked for a week now, which is not that often for me. I think that's why I have the energy to communicate here.
I now have the will and motivation again. But even greater is my fear that soon I will no longer think about the bad sides of addiction.

"Oh come on, what's 100€ that I'm paying in 1x now. I'll make sure that it doesn't get out of hand" - This has happened many times.


But my addiction is not the only reason why I signed up here, more about that later.


About my addiction history:
in 2018 I started to gamble smaller amounts in gambling houses. In the beginning it's all fun as always, you think nothing of it. What's 10€ anyway?
But of course it didn't stop at the 10€. Gambling quickly became a regular occurrence that was very dangerous without me even realizing it.

After the Spilo came the online casino. That's when the madness really began.

10€ at the Blackjack table quickly became stakes like 50€, meanwhile it doesn't feel wrong anymore when I play 100€-200€ hands. The same goes for Roulette
Slots are of course also fun, the RTP is much better than in the Spielo. Stakes of 20Cent-3€ became normal.


I think I got rid of my 20.000€-30.000 in a few years. And what is the result?

4500€ in the Dispo,
2000€ on the VISA card
2500€ on the VISA card
25.000€ credit (of which only 18.000€ comes from the car)

And all this with a normal job where I am just at the 2,000€ net.

I had to partially steal old IT hardware to survive. Did it stand out? No it didn't
I approached my old employer and explained the situation. He thanked me for my honesty and let me find a new job with a black eye.

Now I have had a better job for 1.5 years, but has anything really changed about the situation? Not really
At most, I've gotten better at not letting the addiction escalate to the point where I can't pay my bills
For a long time, I didn't even notice that my mountain of Debt kept building up.

I increased the overdraft facility here and there, made some money available there, and took out a loan there.

It's not good for your SCHUFA either if you make credit inquiries every few months.


Where the addiction comes from is another topic. But I think everyone who is addicted craves the same things over and over again:

Love, security, happiness, carelessness.

The word "addiction" comes from "longing", as we all know


I want to put an end to it all. At least I thought so. I have thought that many times.

i had now held out for 2 weeks, then the whole madness started all over again.

I just had my credit card on 0, now you're back to the limit with 2500 € But I wanted to cancel the card to take away a possibility to lose money.
did it work? Apparently not. I increased the overdraft especially for this. What did it bring me? More debt.

I'm even at Deutsche Vermögensberatung, I wanted to create a budget, a savings plan. So that I can finally get my finances in order.


I played with insane stakes. 200€ in roulette, 300€ in blackjack
A miracle that it took 3 days until the credit card glowed.


I think so slowly there are hardly any casinos left where I can play.
I also do not know if it is good that I can only play in Curacao casinos

Everything that has a MGA license is blocked for me, because I have indicated to support that I am addicted to gambling.
I have been blocked everywhere, so not only in the individual casinos, but also in the casino groups.


Now I am at the mercy of the scam.


i played at Cashalot.bet. 1900 deposited. 1100 should be paid out.

So far I have received only 700€. Better said 7x 101€ (1€ foreign turnover)

For over a week I am with the support on it that I get my 400€. They keep asking for new statements from me, because the casino is not aware of any fault.

A transaction number for the missing transfers? Missing.

An overview of all individual positions of the transactions? No, this is not technically possible according to support. What I do not believe them.
I should log in myself to download the data. This is not possible, of course, because I have blocked myself.

The name of the bank, from which I should get the money? Missing. The support is the absolute Oberdreck.


All I really want is to get the money I'm entitled to and then try to get my life under control.


I've already told the casino that I want to do a chargeback in case of hardship if I don't get the money I'm entitled to.

That was my plan. 400€ chargeback. Then the casino and I would be even. Casino totally prints around and keeps me on a long leash.
"We have to wait for the answer from the bank" .... and that for days.


But now it's like this

I wanted to get blocked in another casino when I still had an open withdrawal. (Nationalcasino) Was my account blocked even though I pointed out my Gambling addiction? No it wasn't. Of course I lost more money.
The reason for non-blocking was "You can't have your account blocked until all outstanding payouts have been made." Are they allowed to do it that way?
Do I have any chance of successfully completing a chargeback there?


Of course, you think about how to get the most money back. You look for ways out and solutions.
Getting money back at all would be something.



What I don't want is to gamble away the money I might get back again. I need help and I know that.
I have often toyed with the idea of help, but I could never bring myself to do it. I put reasons like "Corona" before it

After all, how is a support group supposed to come together when a viral disease is raging among us?


Am I shooting myself in the foot if I start demanding chargebacks?
I want to close the account with VISA and my house bank soon and change to another bank. I want to start all over again.

Either way, I want to get away from gambling, then I'd rather play a round of Call of Duty.



I hope I have not written too confused here. I look forward to your answers.




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Gambsvater
I wrote the whole thing down here in one as it came to my mind

That's why the reasons for the addiction are here. I don't know if this is the right place for it
But I had the feeling that I would like to share.

i also have good friends with whom I have already talked about it. But I have the feeling that none of them understands what it's like when your head tells you that it's okay to gamble, even though 30 minutes before you were still vehemently protesting against gambling.

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Anonym
No one can help you there

Try to reduce your debts and gamble only with money you are willing to lose

The casinos write that over and over again gamble only with money you can afford to
lose

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Tonkabohne
Top Member
Wow ... super honest written !

Respect.

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Butterbrezel
Elite
The 1st step, that you recognize your problem, you have already done as it sounds.

I would rather estimate that you need a friend to help you, someone who supports you around the clock. As soon as you get triggered, he should trigger you. Preferably one who doesn't smoke Pot and is permanently sane.

Or make a post here every time you want to gamble or smoke weed again. There will be enough here to talk you out of it.
You just have to believe in yourself that you can do it.

Otherwise, p rofessional contact points would be an option.

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Falko
Icon
Online banking and credit cards block, that no longer the possibility at any time around the clock to be able to deposit. For me, it only works if I buy a Paysafe card, otherwise I can no longer make deposits. And even with a Paysafe card, since the end of last year it has only been possible to make deposits via a Paysafe account. If you block this, this option is also no longer available. I think for you there is no other way than to disable all Deposit options. Blocking Online Casinos does not solve the problem. With the number of casinos on the Internet, you would find a new one every day for many years, because they are a dime a dozen.

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Niroht
Experienced
Gambsvater wrote on 08/23/2021 at 18:15: "Moin zusammen,
my name is Gambsvater, and I am a gambling addict"

"Hello Gambsvater"

I always had to think of scenes of the AAs from movies when I used to think about telling others regarding my addiction.

Covering serious things with humor just suits me. I've been able to do that since I was a kid, always being the sponge for my mentally ill single mom.
Parentification is the name of the fun, it's quite funny when you as a little squirt have your crying mother in your arms every evening and have to comfort her. When you have to deal with your mother's suicidal thoughts.

As a result, I remained a "child" for quite a long time, since my own development took a back seat.


About me:
-i am an addict
-i am 25 years old
-good job/live alone/feel alone


I haven't smoked for a week now, which is not that often for me. I think that's why I have the energy to communicate here.
I now have the will and motivation again. But even greater is my fear that soon I will no longer think about the bad sides of addiction.

"Oh come on, what's 100€ that I'm paying in 1x now. I'll make sure that it doesn't get out of hand" - This has happened many times.


But my addiction is not the only reason why I signed up here, more about that later.


About my addiction history:
in 2018 I started to gamble smaller amounts in gambling houses. In the beginning it's all fun as always, you think nothing of it. What's 10€ anyway?
But of course it didn't stop at the 10€. Gambling quickly became a regular occurrence that was very dangerous without me even realizing it.

After the Spilo came the online casino. That's when the madness really began.

10€ at the Blackjack table quickly became stakes like 50€, meanwhile it doesn't feel wrong anymore when I play 100€-200€ hands. The same goes for Roulette
Slots are of course also fun, the RTP is much better than in the Spielo. Stakes of 20Cent-3€ became normal.


I think I got rid of my 20.000€-30.000 in a few years. And what is the result?

4500€ in the Dispo,
2000€ on the VISA card
2500€ on the VISA card
25.000€ credit (of which only 18.000€ comes from the car)

And all this with a normal job where I am just at the 2,000€ net.

I had to partially steal old IT hardware to survive. Did it stand out? No it didn't
I approached my old employer and explained the situation. He thanked me for my honesty and let me find a new job with a black eye.

Now I have had a better job for 1.5 years, but has anything really changed about the situation? Not really
At most, I've gotten better at not letting the addiction escalate to the point where I can't pay my bills
For a long time, I didn't even notice that my mountain of Debt kept building up.

I increased the overdraft facility here and there, made some money available there, and took out a loan there.

It's not good for your SCHUFA either if you make credit inquiries every few months.


Where the addiction comes from is another topic. But I think everyone who is addicted craves the same things over and over again:

Love, security, happiness, carelessness.

The word "addiction" comes from "longing", as we all know


I want to put an end to it all. At least I thought so. I have thought that many times.

i had held out for 2 weeks now, then the whole madness started all over again.

I just had my credit card on 0, now you're back to the limit with 2500 € But I wanted to cancel the card to take away a possibility to lose money.
did it work? Apparently not. I increased the overdraft especially for this. What did it bring me? More debt.

I'm even at Deutsche Vermögensberatung, I wanted to create a budget, a savings plan. So that I can finally get my finances in order.


I played with insane stakes. 200€ in roulette, 300€ in blackjack
A miracle that it took 3 days until the credit card glowed.


I think so slowly there are hardly any casinos left where I can play.
I also do not know if it is good that I can only play in Curacao casinos

Everything that has a MGA license is blocked for me, because I have indicated to support that I am addicted to gambling.
I have been blocked everywhere, so not only in the individual casinos, but also in the casino groups.


Now I am at the mercy of the scam.


i played at Cashalot.bet. 1900 deposited. 1100 should be paid out.

So far I have received only 700€. Better said 7x 101€ (1€ foreign turnover)

For over a week I am with the support on it that I get my 400€. They keep asking for new statements from me, because the casino is not aware of any fault.

A transaction number for the missing transfers? Missing.

An overview of all individual positions of the transactions? No, this is not technically possible according to support. What I do not believe them.
I should log in myself to download the data. This is not possible, of course, because I have blocked myself.

The name of the bank, from which I should get the money? Missing. The support is the absolute Oberdreck.


Actually, I just want to get the money I'm entitled to and then try to get a grip on my life.


I've already told the casino that I want to do a chargeback in case of hardship if I don't get the money I'm entitled to.

That was my plan. 400€ chargeback. Then the casino and I would be even. Casino totally prints around and keeps me on a long leash.
"We have to wait for the answer from the bank" .... and that for days.


But now it's like this

I wanted to get blocked in another casino when I still had an open withdrawal. (Nationalcasino) Was my account blocked even though I pointed out my Gambling addiction? No it wasn't. Of course I lost more money.
The reason for non-blocking was "You can't have your account blocked until all outstanding payouts have been made." Are they allowed to do it that way?
Do I have any chance of successfully completing a chargeback there?


Of course, you think about how to get the most money back. You look for ways out and solutions.
Getting money back at all would be something.



What I don't want is to gamble away the money I might get back again. I need help and I know that.
I have often toyed with the idea of help, but I could never bring myself to do it. I put reasons like "Corona" before it

After all, how is a support group supposed to come together when a viral disease is raging among us?


Am I shooting myself in the foot if I start demanding chargebacks?
I want to close the account with VISA and my house bank soon and change to another bank. I want to start all over again.

Either way, I want to get away from gambling, then I'd rather play a round of Call of Duty.



I hope I have not written too confused here. I look forward to your answers.





If you have paid by credit card in the Curacao shops, please inquire whether you can reclaim the payments with the help of the bank

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Gambsvater
Ruebezahl wrote on 08/23/2021 at 18:43: No one can help you there

Try to reduce your debts and gamble only with money you are willing to lose

The casino write that over and over again Gamble only with Money you can afford to
lose


That you should gamble only with the money you are willing to lose is like telling an alcoholic to just drink less.

Or telling a depressive to just smile.


Wutmaennchen wrote on 23.08.2021 at 19:51: The 1st step, that you recognize your problem, you have already made as it sounds.

I would rather estimate that you need a friend to help you, someone who supports you around the clock. As soon as you get triggered, he should trigger you. Preferably one who doesn't smoke Pot and is permanently sane.

Or make a post here every time you want to gamble or smoke weed again. There will be enough here to talk you out of it.
You just have to believe in yourself that you can do it.

Otherwise, p rofessional contact points would be an option.

Thanks for your constructive contribution. The friend thing is a good idea, but always being honest with him is another.
If you are not honest with yourself......



Thorin2017 wrote on 23.08.2021 at 21:56

If you paid by credit card in the Curacao booths, please inquire if you can reclaim the payments with the help of the bank.

I am still waiting for 400€, the casino gives me 0 information.
I will now try to start a chargeback for my complete deposits. Or only for the missing 400€. I do not know yet.

Are there reputable lawyers for something like this or is this not necessary and wasted money?

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Niroht
Experienced
You don't need a lawyer
They'll probably laugh about it

Just ask your bank or the issuer of the card.
Enter "charge back money with credit card" in Google.

There is the procedure described, whether it works I can not tell you
Who tries nothing, has already lost


I am not a friend of reclaiming money, but if the Curacao Casino does not want to pay out your winnings, then I would at least make this attempt, with the help of the bank.
Of course, this also means to let your pants down, but maybe there is a way to limit the damage

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Taybone
Amateur
Gambling addiction is violent. The fast money, to make a lot of money at once is the entrance. Maybe you had big wins but....after the loss comes a hunting behavior. One must win back the losses again. At some point you are desperate and think the bigwin is waiting for you, you just have to try again. I think today is my day. There is no limit set. All or nothing. The consequences are eliminated. At the end if it still runs well one has no more money. If it goes very badly also still debts.

Gambling = work of the devil

If the damage is greater than the benefit, you should stop gambling.

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