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Off topic & small talk: House search on suspicion of money laundering (Page 2)

Topic created on 19th Jan. 2021 | Page: 2 of 6 | Answers: 57 | Views: 16,137
Anonym
My question would be when was the account closed? Also, only now, or in 2018 after the wins? Sounds like dad was already done in 2018

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supermode
Expert
So remember for the future, when you hit big, withdraw the money from the ATM with eWallet credit card and put it under the bed instead of in the bank

Think the banks make there only big eyes when there is a 5 digit amount of Neteller / Skrill etc. from nothing lands, if you send times a 1-5k over does not really happen.

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SLOTMASTER
Rookie
TeddyWestside wrote on 01/19/2021 at 1:33 pm: My question would be when was the account closed. Also just now, or in 2018 after the wins? Sounds like dad had already done it in 2018

That was cancelled in a timely manner. What also found friends strange, was that my bank account or accounts were not frozen now. If the suspicion is so great that ne search is initiated, then accounts should be frozen. I have rather the feeling that they are clueless and desperately looking for reasons. Why do they not want to admit that you pay out 50k which is even in the transactions. That they don't even care that I could give them the statements. Rather look for drugs and other things. PS: In the decision was even payments via Trustly, Paysafe and Neteller in connection with gambling and the transactions can not be assigned

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Falko
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SLOTMASTER wrote on 01/19/2021 at 15:36
That was cancelled in a timely manner. What also friends found funny, was that my bank account or accounts were now also not frozen. If the suspicion is so great that ne search is initiated, then accounts should be frozen. I have rather the feeling that they are clueless and desperately looking for reasons. Why do they not want to admit that you pay out 50k which is even in the transactions. That they don't even care that I could give them the statements. Rather look for drugs and other things. PS: In the decision was even payments via Trustly, Paysafe and Neteller in connection with gambling and the transactions can not be assigned.

So you are in the big plus area as far as Online Casinos are concerned, which only very few manage ? Since you have written here, the money comes all only from online casinos.

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Anonym
SLOTMASTER wrote on 01/19/2021 at 15:36
That was cancelled in a timely manner. What also friends found funny, was that my bank account or accounts were now also not frozen. If the suspicion is so great that ne search is initiated, then accounts should be frozen. I have rather the feeling that they are clueless and desperately looking for reasons. Why do they not want to admit that you pay out 50k which is even in the transactions. That they don't even care that I could give them the statements. Rather look for drugs and other things. PS: In the decision was even payments via Trustly, Paysafe and Neteller in connection with gambling and the transactions can not be assigned.

So it was terminated in 2018? Sounds weird to me honestly. Which bank was it then?

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SLOTMASTER
Rookie
Falko wrote on 19.01.2021 at 15:49
So you are as far as Online Casinos in the big plus area, which only very few manage ? Since you wrote yes here, the money comes all only from online casinos

Have since then only draft and loose 50 k skeleton. That probably does not juckt the. They only see the numbers from back then. There is hardly anything left over

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Sprengsatz
Experienced
SLOTMASTER wrote on 01/19/2021 at 15:36
That was cancelled in a timely manner. What also friends found funny, was that my bank account or accounts were not frozen now. If the suspicion is so great that ne search is initiated, then accounts should be frozen. I have rather the feeling that they are clueless and desperately looking for reasons. Why do they not want to admit that you pay out 50k which is even in the transactions. That they don't even care that I could give them the statements. Rather look for drugs and other things. PS: In the decision was even payments via Trustly, Paysafe and Neteller in connection with gambling and the transactions can not be assigned.

Why freeze? Evidence is secured. In general, where there is no imminent danger, it can take forever until you get a house search. But I find it strange that 2 policemen do it?
Know it to third. CID, court and witness

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SLOTMASTER
Rookie
Explosive wrote on 01/19/2021 at 23:57
Why freeze? Evidence is secured. In general, Schnulli where no danger is imminent, it can take forever until you get a house search. Find it but funny that 2 policemen do that?
Know it to third. CID, court and witness

Well, even if evidence that is not there are secured. With money laundering where you are already so sure that you initiate a search, it should actually be so until it is clarified

They came only two in civilian clothes and have also made no search. Computer and cell phone was sufficient and otherwise as I had already mentioned, the official simply could not believe that one can have so much luck

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Slothot
Amateur
Ok, let's slow down... They must have had, if they were in your apartment, a DS resolution according to 102StPO. In the formal requirements 104 StPO is an independent witness, absolute obligation

The witnesses usually come from some administration and take the matter, as a rule, extremely seriously

If no witness was present, his signature is also missing on the form of seizure / confiscation of your items
Hopefully, you have not voluntarily handed over the items, because then they must be confiscated

You must also have received a confirmation of the search

If no witness was actually present, there is a prohibition on the use of evidence due to an irremediable formal error

The times in which state actors can do whatever they want have been over since 1990 at the latest...

So be sure to discuss this with your lawyer


Or did they just stand in front of your door, didn't come in, and "asked" you for the items, which you then "voluntarily" handed over?

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SLOTMASTER
Rookie
Slothot wrote on 20/01/2021 at 07:40: Ok, slow down... They must have had, if they were in your apartment, a DS resolution under 102StPO. In the formal requirements 104 StPO is an independent witness, absolute obligation

The witnesses usually come from some administration and take the matter, as a rule, extremely seriously

If no witness was present, his signature is also missing on the form of seizure / confiscation of your items
Hopefully, you have not voluntarily handed over the items, because then they must be confiscated

You must also have received a confirmation of the search

If no witness was actually present, there is a prohibition on the use of evidence due to an irremediable formal error

The times in which state actors can do whatever they want have been over since 1990 at the latest...

So be sure to discuss this with your lawyer


Or did they just stand in front of your door, didn't come in, and "asked" you for the items, which you then "voluntarily" handed over?

They rang the doorbell and had a search warrant from the prosecutor. They directly said that they would take the computer and cell phone anyway. Another witness was not present. They have also after they have taken the things of a further search apart. Since I have nothing to hide, I just have to wait for the evaluation.

What I do not understand is that it says that they do not understand the amount, although I have told my bank as well as several times that they are wins and I even had payout receipts at the time.

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