A comparison between citizen money and pension as well as to the working people lags enormously. For several decades the compulsory costs rise continuously, the unemployed suffer in this country already enough, not necessarily because of the insufficient subsidy of the state, rather because of the disgusting society, which predominantly call the Hartzer a lazy drinking armchair seat.
Germany has enough money to finance everything;
a) basic income
b) basic pension
c) minimum wage 20€
However, there are other interests on the part of the government and their voters
Royal777 wrote on 26.11.2022 at 18:31: A comparison between citizen's money and pension as well as to the working people lags tremendously. Since several decades the compulsory costs rise continuously, the unemployed suffer in this country already enough, not necessarily because of the insufficient subsidy of the state, rather because of the disgusting society, which predominantly title the Hartzer as a lazy drinking armchair seat.
Germany has enough money to finance everything;
a) basic income
b) basic pension
c) minimum wage 20€
However, there are other interests on the part of the government and their voters
But if you assume there is a basic income of say 1000 € per month and then someone can freely decide whether he wants more through work but there will still be people who say haha you unemployed
In neighboring countries, it works with the basic income.
Only in our country, far too many people have something to say to prevent it.
It could go to the little man too well.
If everyone pays into the pension system, the pension would also be secured.
The officials should also pay in.
Who wants to pay the pensions in a few years?
The extension of working hours is just window dressing. So there is no pension security.
There will always be unemployed.
Anyone can become unemployed due to adverse circumstances.
But who does not want to work and there are enough of it, it is still made too easy for them (this is my personal opinion and in no way personally meant).
There is enough work, otherwise we would not have so many vacancies) but it is not always the dream job.
mowolum wrote on 26.11.2022 at 19:14: In neighboring countries it works with the basic income.
Only with us far too many have what to say to prevent that.
It could be too good for the little man.
If everyone pays into the pension system .the pension would also be secured.
The officials should also pay in.
Who wants to pay the pensions in a few years?
The extension of working hours is just window dressing. So there is no pension security.
There will always be unemployed.
Anyone can become unemployed due to adverse circumstances.
But who does not want to work and there are enough of it, it is still made too easy for them (this is my personal opinion and in no way personally meant).
There is enough work, otherwise we would not have so many vacancies) but it is not always the dream job.
I also think everyone should pay into the pension fund
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"Around 25.8 million people receive a pension from the German pension Insurance scheme. Deducting orphans' pensions, there are a proud 21.2 million pension recipients as of 2020. Only a fraction of these receive 2000 euros or more each month: In 2015, there were just 97,271 people affected." Focus Online
That is just 0.5%. If everyone in Germany worked then there would be a maximum doubling to around 1%, if that.
mowolum wrote on 26.11.2022 at 19:14: In neighboring countries it works with the basic income.
Only with us have far too many what to say to prevent that.
It could be too good for the little man.
If everyone pays into the pension system .the pension would also be secured.
The officials should also pay in.
Who wants to pay the pensions in a few years?
The extension of working hours is just window dressing. So there is no pension security.
There will always be unemployed.
Anyone can become unemployed due to adverse circumstances.
But who does not want to work and there are enough of it, it is still made too easy for them (this is my personal opinion and in no way personally meant).
There is enough work, otherwise we would not have so many vacancies) but it is not always the dream job.
I agree with you about the need to reform the pension system.
But a basic income (whether it would work or not) does not exist in any of our neighboring countries.
There have been a few pilot projects, for example in Finland, but the truth is that a basic income has never been introduced anywhere and the truth is that we simply have too little evidence about whether such a concept would really work. Personally, of course, I would welcome it, but I would never sign off on it without a solid economic calculation.
I also think everyone should pay into the pension fund
My sister is a civil servant in the administration gets a decent pension, civil servants have it so good that can hardly happen. And the work is also very pleasant. But the system is so unfair. Germany has too many civil servants.
I agree with you yes about reforming the pension system.
But a basic income (whether it would work or not) does not exist in any of our neighboring countries.
There have been a few pilot projects, for example in Finland, but the truth is that no basic income has ever been introduced anywhere and the truth is that we simply have too little evidence about whether such a concept would really work. Personally, I would welcome it, of course, but would never sign off on it without a solid economic calculation.
Skitch22 wrote on 26.11.2022 at 19:37
My sister is a civil servant in the administration who gets a decent pension, civil servants have it so good those can hardly happen. And the work is also very pleasant. But the system is so unfair. Germany has too many civil servants.
Why didn't you become a civil servant?
What does that have to do with unfair? Everyone is free to become a civil servant !
And that every civil servant has a great job I doubt!
Is just like in the free economy, there are good and bad jobs!
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Germany has enough money to finance everything;
a) basic income
b) basic pension
c) minimum wage 20€
However, there are other interests on the part of the government and their voters
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But if you assume there is a basic income of say 1000 € per month and then someone can freely decide whether he wants more through work but there will still be people who say haha you unemployed
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Only in our country, far too many people have something to say to prevent it.
It could go to the little man too well.
If everyone pays into the pension system, the pension would also be secured.
The officials should also pay in.
Who wants to pay the pensions in a few years?
The extension of working hours is just window dressing. So there is no pension security.
There will always be unemployed.
Anyone can become unemployed due to adverse circumstances.
But who does not want to work and there are enough of it, it is still made too easy for them
(this is my personal opinion and in no way personally meant).
There is enough work, otherwise we would not have so many vacancies) but it is not always the dream job.
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That is just 0.5%. If everyone in Germany worked then there would be a maximum doubling to around 1%, if that.
It is shaken out annually 350 billion in pension (pension expenses), while the net costs for ALG 2 recipients are only at 15 billion...
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15 billion per year, that are peanuts compared to our International expenditures
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I agree with you about the need to reform the pension system.
But a basic income (whether it would work or not) does not exist in any of our neighboring countries.
There have been a few pilot projects, for example in Finland, but the truth is that a basic income has never been introduced anywhere and the truth is that we simply have too little evidence about whether such a concept would really work. Personally, of course, I would welcome it, but I would never sign off on it without a solid economic calculation.
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My sister is a civil servant in the administration gets a decent pension, civil servants have it so good that can hardly happen. And the work is also very pleasant. But the system is so unfair. Germany has too many civil servants.
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Why didn't you become a civil servant?
What does that have to do with unfair? Everyone is free to become a civil servant !
And that every civil servant has a great job I doubt!
Is just like in the free economy, there are good and bad jobs!
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