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Other topics related to... : State Treaty on Gambling on the Brink?

Topic created on 05th Jan. 2021 | Page: 1 of 1 | Answers: 9 | Views: 1,396
Begbie
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https://www.automatenmarkt.de/nachrichten/artikel/gluecksspielstaatsvertrag-auf-der-kippe/

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Anonym
A new bash on Sylt with high-priced drinks and high-priced lady companionship will take care of that.

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x00NY
Elite
Those who are happy about this can't be helped. They are bothered by the fact that 1000€ Deposit limit per month is too high. Should everyone be allowed to deposit only 10€ per month?

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Butterbrezel
Elite
That is what I have also written. The Deposit limit is too flat.

Person X has 1000,00 EUR at free disposal, person Y has 10.000,00 EUR at free disposal.
Both are allowed to gamble 1000,00 EUR?
Person X is thus broke, Person Y would still have a lot of money left without getting into financial trouble, but is not allowed to continue gambling because of the guidelines. This would also be economically stupid for the casinos and for the state due to the increased tax revenues.

Every player should set his own limit under his own responsibility.
And that ONLINE as well as OFFLINE.

Because of the fact that ONLINE is separated from OFFLINE, the topic with the Player protection is invalid anyway.
Person X spends his 1000,00 EUR within 5 days online.
Then he overdraws his account and goes to the Spielo every day.
What is the point of the online limit for this person?
It's all half and nothing whole.

Option 1:
Either more effort should be put on ADVICE and INFORMATION, so that everyone has to regulate it themselves (I would be for that).
Option 2:
Otherwise there is just a KYC game for everyone who gambles and it is determined who may gamble how much.

It boils down to the fact that it is option 2...but only online. So maximum stupid.

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Falko
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Interesting I live in Saxony-Anhalt and would find it good if this contract fails. Then everything would be converted again without restrictions, if it would come to no gambling contract ? That would but then for the casinos no longer make sense these stupid rules like 5 seconds per spin to continue to comply, if the whole thing is just for the cat and no longer exist for a German license. So I myself get along well with the game, keep for years always my limits and can therefore live well with it, if everything would remain as it was then

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Butterbrezel
Elite
Falko wrote on 05.01.2021 at 16:06: Interesting I live in Saxony-Anhalt and would find it good if this contract fails. Then everything would be converted again without restrictions, if it would come to no gambling contract ? That would but then for the casinos no longer make sense these stupid rules like 5 seconds per spin to continue to comply, if the whole thing is only for the cat and no longer exist a prospect for a German license. So I myself get along well with the game, keep for years always my limits and can therefore live well with it, if everything would remain as it was then.

The basis of the story is the tax revenue for the German tax office.
Currently, Germany sees 0.00 EUR of this for casino games. And the turnover of the not yet regulated gambling amounts to approx. 2.63 billion EUR according to Statista.
Source: https://de.statista.com/themen/570/gluecksspiel/
That something will change is certain. Only how and what not.

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Falko
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Wutmaennchen wrote on 05.01.2021 at 16:17
The basis of the story is just the tax revenue for the German tax office.
Currently Germany sees 0.0 EUR of that on casino games. And the revenue from not yet regulated gambling is about 11.28 billion EUR according to Statista.
Source: https://de.statista.com/themen/570/gluecksspiel/
That something will change is certain. Only how and what not.

These turnovers of 11.28 billion are however calculated on past times, which were still integrated without restrictions ? By omission of the Live Casino, slowed spins on the slots and 1 euro per spin, this sum would melt but then clearly together from what the state still wants to pick up

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T****s
this article is from 2011

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/parteispenden-der-gauselmann-ag-verfahren-eingestellt-1.1085537

may well be that it is overturned, if now enough money flows A to B!
This is the sad reality the politicians care only about their own ass but let's be honest who of us would not do that in such circles. The money outweighs the morality and reason of mankind.

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Butterbrezel
Elite
Falko wrote on 05.01.2021 at 16:21
These sales of 11.28 billion but are calculated on past times, which were still integrated without restrictions ? By omission of the Live Casino, slowed spins on the slots and 1 euro per spin, this sum would melt but then significantly together from what the state still wants to pick up.

Have my contribution already edited, the non-regulated sales are only 2.63 billion EUR.
On Statista, the sales from 2016 - 2018 are listed.

The current changes in the Online Casinos are of course not yet in there, but I do not think there are significant changes.

How high was the share of live casino before the new rules? I have found nothing on the quick.

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Falko
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As for the Live Casino, all providers had that in their range. From now on, I'll keep an eye on professional soccer to see if there's still as much perimeter advertising from the providers as Bwin, for example. Due to the high decline in sales, that should be normal but hardly possible to sponsor so many clubs. Just in the Corona crisis where many clubs are struggling to survive, the policy with such laws at the present time also still enormously harms the sport. Well wait and see that Saxony-Anhalt has stopped the broadcasting fee I already found super and maybe everything is also tilted here by my state. Just because even the control authority is to be built here, which would then also no longer possible with a veto.

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