Daniel wrote on 05.04.2019 at 01:46: @Dagmarlena I can unfortunately confirm this case - unless we have fallen for a very good fake.
But I can understand your doubts. I also had my doubts in the beginning. Either it is a well-made fake or in the city or village where the TE comes from all the authorities are somewhat incompetent. Especially after the defeat what the Munich court had to suffer at the last conviction attempt, it surprises me very much that a prosecutor opens again such, to bordering on certainty probability, failing procedure.
But nothing really surprises me anymore in the Greater German GDR 2.0.
Then I can recommend the poor guy a lawyer who is specialized in criminal cases of this kind and if you can not afford a lawyer, there is the possibility to apply to the court to pay the costs. Every lawyer/law firm is obliged by law to take on a number of compulsory cases in addition to their normal mandates. My doubts about the procedures that can be read in the description come from my part-time job. I have been working as an interpreter for a law firm for years, and I am called in when there is a mandatory mandate in criminal cases of any kind. As a rule, most of the defendants are already in custody, in a psychiatric ward, etc. I attend their defense in a 1-to-1 translation for the understanding between lawyer and client. Over the years I have experienced many things that the penal code provides
Also some unjustly manufactured or official failure was thereby, where,
one can only shake the head what that some in the exercise of their "duty" mean to be able to take out
That with the bank is not to be changed which concerns the notice and/or one could contest that and judicially force however who wants to be still customer there. Shortly after one would have success in this thing, the bank institute would bring forward another reason from its ALG u the account terminate
Nevertheless the reproach is to be cleared absolutely and as fast as possible with a lawyer agency from the world. Often it is enough that a lawyer comments on the whole thing and that the whole thing is discontinued. This must happen quickly, so that they do not start the investigation apparatus, because if you get a Reigewirgt, whether justified or not - an entry in the criminal record of this kind is associated with nasty consequences. Work, anything related to finance, anywhere where a query is automated - car purchase, Insurance, cell phone contract, professions where you process customer data, social professions, etc. - Tax evaders who are found guilty of money laundering are capital criminals, so to speak. As a murderer you get a bank account and Dispo and so. In the case of a conviction with entry in the criminal record 10years bestnimmt not more, if not longer. One is branded
that's exactly how I see it too 🙄
i also play over 10 years until now never heard anything from the bank 😁
Also wrong what I often read here the savings banks cancel account because of,
Savings banks must grant everyone an account 😁
Dagmarlena wrote on 05.04.2019 at 01:20 Clock
ATTENTION NOW COMES A ROMAN 😅😂😂 for typos wg tablet keyboard also a sorry but I hau das now so out- überles the just!
Hej,
please do not take it personally - I do not want to accuse you of anything -
blindly drauflos HETZEN just because I can not imagine it, is not my thing, then I prefer to say garnix u think my part!!!
I make here only one unprejudiced expression - on the basis me here, from you, made available facts - from your description of the circumstances, how it should have come according to your statement to a preliminary investigation against you. ("should be" because no proof but only your statement is available)
That this possibility exists under certain circumstances, I do not question - the proceedings are public and the judgments are accordingly accessible to everyone and can be read.
A few years ago we had a case in the circle of acquaintances, in which out of the blue such a case came in by mail, but this was a copyright case and in this case there is no public interest and therefore it is despite a criminal case a report offense. which means that the public prosecutor's office does not initiate investigations on its own account - it must first be the injured party a CRIMINAL CASE at the prosecutor's office of the competent CIVIL COURT
As a rule, a written demand is made by the injured party's lawyers, naming the alleged violations, etc. etc. etc. But this is a different matter, I only mentioned it because it is an Internet activity. ALSOOO
What immediately struck me in your description and made me wonder is the procedure of your bank
The account movements over an amount of 2000€ in a booking process since the banking secrecy was legally lifted - are reportable to the tax office is known and everyone was informed about it by his bank. But that does not mean that you get there big what of, is presumably automated.
Likewise, it is quite possible if at once high sums that obviously fall out of the frame, in and out or excessive activities are suddenly determined, that your case worker of your bank regarding this reports to you. However, you will never experience that a bank contacts you via email or telephone and discusses this with you in this way. This would make the bank liable to prosecution. If it is a small town and a small branch where everyone knows everyone, it may be that you receive a call but only with the request - personally in this to talk to clarify conspicuous account activities! Neither facts, nor facts, nor more precise reasons are named postal, via email, nor on the phone! On site, everything is then clarified and to receive a win from an online casino is not a crime. It is also not forbidden to transfer the win from your e-wallet to your bank account. One-time high cash receipts, provided that the bank account holder has a regular job and therefore regular salary receipts, will remain unmentioned in most cases. It could be money from the private sale of the car or you buy and sell something privately. Commercial trade without business is prohibited but private is allowed, what you do with your stuff is your thing! The bank is not really concerned with where you get your money from or what you spend it on. Unless there are frequent conspicuous movements that exceed the normal scope of a private person, the origin is questionable and the intended use does not explain it - or suddenly from online sites many debits are made or withdrawn from the machine and the balance, the Verfügungsrahmen are exhausted, also to protect the account holder from criminal acts that occur without his knowledge - the bank will contact one. The online casino ban applies to operators. In Germany, licenses are only issued in certain states and the license casinos may only grant access to players who are resident and registered in these states. This has less to do with the money laundering law but with the tax law. The legislation is not federal, but rather a matter for the states. Winnings from casinos, lotteries, Scratch cards, and lotteries from TV programs are paid out to the winner untaxed and remain untaxed for a period of one year. If the win is not spent after one year and is still in the bank account, the (lottery) millions are taxed. The providers of gambling halls, casinos, lotteries, etc. will be asked to pay high taxes. There the Glückspelbehörde is very exact and the commission ensures that these no mischief in their favor and to the disadvantage of the players anstellen. hence the defaults to the distribution of profits etc As always, in legislation, the devil is in the details. Betting, for example, is not prohibited online and both the Provider income and the players or their transacted bet amount and the profits from it, are taxed and this is to be deducted to certain % before the payment of a win. AND HERE WE COME TO THE POINT THAT MAKES ONLINE GAMBLING POSSIBLE - GAMES THAT RUN UNDER LICENSES OF PERMITTED COUNTRIES ARE ACCESSIBLE TO US BECAUSE THESE ARE NOT SETTLED AS CASINO WINNINGS BUT UNDER BETTING LEGAL CASINOS RUN WITH LEGALLY ISSUED LICENSES FROM COUNTRIES THAT ARE FISCALLY COMPLIANT AND ABIDE BY OUR LEGISLATION. Therefore, some games in an online casino are not available to german players and any wins from them, e.g. under vpn, are illegal.
The operators will always make sure that they do not make themselves liable to prosecution and therefore the stated paragraph is not applicable!
That to this point!
Then your word choice, which you use around the further details to tell, lets me somewhat doubt whether you really ever such a letter in your hands held.
Someone investigating the prosecution - receives
1. a Summons for a Complaint Hearing
and then it is not called a complaint but a
CRIMINAL CHARGE IS FILED WITH THE STATE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE. Believe me who is confronted with these accusations will have internalized these words.
Likewise, you will never have held any of this in your hand and experience the CRIMINAL POLICE standing in front of your door with a search warrant
I found that almost amusing -
because if you know what you can expect then you can make relevant evidence disappear.
Therefore, a house search is ALWAYS done BEFORE A WRITTEN SUSPENSION FOR A PENALTY!!!!
Subsequently, the summons only makes sense after the evidence has been seized.
There you also get a colorful paper, which is one of the punches on which the seized evidence is noted and which you then after the PROCEDURE so AFTER THE TRIAL IS COMPLETED AND A JUDGMENT PROCEEDED back!!!!
Unless the prosecutor's office has officially discontinued the investigation against you, which you will then also learn by mail and then get your property back at the police station!
A lawyer is searched in a criminal case, with an accusation of this magnitude - immediately on!
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE HOUSE SEARCH AND BEFORE THE SUBPOENA. EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DEPARTMENT AT HOME IN REAL LIFE AND HAS BEEN LECTURED THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, GOES TO THE LAWYER.
IN THE SUMMONS YOU WILL FIND OUT THE EXACT CHARGE, ON THE BASIS OF WHICH EVIDENCE, TESTIMONY, ETC
MONEY LAUNDERING is not accused on the basis of a single incident, they are very precise and first watch for quite a while before they decide to become active.
As a rule, criminal acts that have been repeatedly committed knowingly - also actively, in this Umpfang you have described pursued
Everything else, such as using VPN to get a win or using false data to hide the money from the authorities, receiving social benefits, etc., will be prosecuted if caught in a criminal case
If you were caught in a fine procedure, negotiated without your presence and served with a fine by decision
The only thing I read as credible is that your VR Bank has terminated the account, which can have many reasons
(Misuse, overdraft without compensation, garnishment, etc.) VR Bank belongs to the Raiffeisen Group and is a private bank (shareholder) and you become as a bank account holder automatically with an amount due at closing, a shareholder.
They are not obligated to provide anyone with a bank account and can terminate your account for a certain reason if you are a customer there
In contrast to, for example, savings bank because they are obliged to anyone who does not have an account,
(no matter how it stands financially, whether the homeless or what)
to set up a bank account on P-basis without Dispo!
So and now my essay is in novel form to end😂😅 Sorry, for the length but I thought I wear here times a few facts together as an argument - I let me also like to teach me better. But that the content of your statement does not go so completely CONFORM, is to be understood on the basis of the points, or not?
..what I would be interested in this, how do you know that from 2,000 EUR is always a report to the tax office ..can you read somewhere..ultimately, it is the sum but still a relatively small amount and then the tax office, if they follow every report, no longer come clear ...
Quietscheentchen wrote on 05.04.2019 at 12:08 pm
..what I would be interested in this, how do you know that from 2,000 EUR is always a report to the tax office ..can you read that somewhere..ultimately, it is the sum but still a relatively small amount and then the tax office, if they follow up every report, would not come at all clear ...
This is a legal regulation that became effective a few years ago
About this every private person who has a Bakkonto informed by his bank. In which form this has made the respective banking institution is different. Some do their banking only online - there come the updates this way. Others draw account statements, there the Aktualisiereungen always come as extra statement to the customer information etc.
With purely on-line banks come in addition to the ALG that one must accept as read to open an account, with the bank card, Schriftlichenunterlagen o the PIN - as extra note again with
With commercially used accounts came at that time from several sides the announcement to the new law to reporting obligation. Since also the Abrechunungsprogramme for the bookkeeping with large announcement geupdatet. can remember that with us afterwards so some problems what the automatic recognition of the bank enterprises by the new input kind of the IBAN and BIC instead of the BLZ u Ktonr occurred u the chaos broke out
Quietscheentchen wrote on 05.04.2019 at 12:08 pm
..what I would be interested in this, how do you know that from 2,000 EUR is always a report to the tax office ..can you read that somewhere..ultimately, it is the sum but still a relatively small amount and then the tax office, if they follow up every report, would not come at all clear ...
The tightened law what the bank secrecy finally extinguishes as well as every personal right in this point thus the authorities to it entitles, at any time in full extent without the necessity of an announcement, your or judicial consent - the bank accounts of everyone to see, was passed last year 2018 exactly on the last day before the summer break in the Bundestag! One does not even get more with whether there one took insight, takes - and in which Umpfang. A right of appeal is therefore also no longer given
Quietscheentchen wrote on 05.04.2019 at 12:46 pm: Thank you for the info. I was not aware of it until now.
😂From time to time read the attachments to the bank statements. Nee these laws are passed no matter whether you agree with it or not, asked is also none of us what that concerns. If one has not to do there from occupation with or is privately interested in the legislation, one gets that so incidentally with, that there something has changed again - as so often
sonne10 wrote on 05.04.2019 at 12:03: that's exactly how I see it too 🙄
i also play over 10 years until now never heard anything from the bank 😁
Also wrong what I often read here the savings banks cancel account des wegen,
Savings banks must grant everyone an account 😁
The savings banks can cancel the existing account but at the same time provide you with a new one with all the restrictions. You have the right to object within a specified period, this is mentioned in the letter of termination if this deviates from the legal framework (only extended objection period, they may not shorten this)
If you take advantage of this, you keep the existing account and it will be converted accordingly to the PKonto, but this is accompanied by important changes for the customer. as well as the services of the institute limited to a minimum
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Daniel wrote on 05/04/2019 08:57 PM
Is it damn unfair if players are punished for using the wrong offer. Hello, how absurd is that? I don't like it when a state patronizes me and orders me to use only his when there are two identical offers. I mean why? As a German, I work 70 - 80 percent for the state (if you add all the hidden taxes and duties). Why am I also forced in my free time to give part of the remaining 20-30 percent to this bottomless pit?
Whoever thinks the latter is reasonable is either a masochist or a slave owner
Do the OC's "based" in Malta actually pay taxes? If so, to whom actually?
And what you should also not forget
The treatment of German addicts, who have gambled themselves into ruin via foreign Online Casinos, is financed from this "bottomless pit"...without even a single cent of any tax having flowed into it beforehand.
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Cryptique wrote on 05/04/2019 at 14:50
Do OC's "domiciled" in Malta actually pay taxes? If so to whom actually?
And what you should also not forget
The treatment of German addicts, who have gambled themselves into ruin via foreign Online Casinos, is financed from this "bottomless pit"...without even a single cent of any tax having flowed into it beforehand.
Online casinos pay taxes in Germany, since taxes must also be paid for illegal activities.
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Then I can recommend the poor guy a lawyer who is specialized in criminal cases of this kind and if you can not afford a lawyer, there is the possibility to apply to the court to pay the costs. Every lawyer/law firm is obliged by law to take on a number of compulsory cases in addition to their normal mandates. My doubts about the procedures that can be read in the description come from my part-time job. I have been working as an interpreter for a law firm for years, and I am called in when there is a mandatory mandate in criminal cases of any kind. As a rule, most of the defendants are already in custody, in a psychiatric ward, etc. I attend their defense in a 1-to-1 translation for the understanding between lawyer and client. Over the years I have experienced many things that the penal code provides
Also some unjustly manufactured or official failure was thereby, where,
one can only shake the head what that some in the exercise of their "duty" mean to be able to take out
That with the bank is not to be changed which concerns the notice and/or one could contest that and judicially force however who wants to be still customer there. Shortly after one would have success in this thing, the bank institute would bring forward another reason from its ALG u the account terminate
Nevertheless the reproach is to be cleared absolutely and as fast as possible with a lawyer agency from the world. Often it is enough that a lawyer comments on the whole thing and that the whole thing is discontinued. This must happen quickly, so that they do not start the investigation apparatus, because if you get a Reigewirgt, whether justified or not - an entry in the criminal record of this kind is associated with nasty consequences. Work, anything related to finance, anywhere where a query is automated - car purchase, Insurance, cell phone contract, professions where you process customer data, social professions, etc. - Tax evaders who are found guilty of money laundering are capital criminals, so to speak. As a murderer you get a bank account and Dispo and so. In the case of a conviction with entry in the criminal record 10years bestnimmt not more, if not longer. One is branded
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i also play over 10 years until now never heard anything from the bank 😁
Also wrong what I often read here the savings banks cancel account because of,
Savings banks must grant everyone an account 😁
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..what I would be interested in this, how do you know that from 2,000 EUR is always a report to the tax office ..can you read somewhere..ultimately, it is the sum but still a relatively small amount and then the tax office, if they follow every report, no longer come clear ...
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This is a legal regulation that became effective a few years ago
About this every private person who has a Bakkonto informed by his bank. In which form this has made the respective banking institution is different. Some do their banking only online - there come the updates this way. Others draw account statements, there the Aktualisiereungen always come as extra statement to the customer information etc.
With purely on-line banks come in addition to the ALG that one must accept as read to open an account, with the bank card, Schriftlichenunterlagen o the PIN - as extra note again with
With commercially used accounts came at that time from several sides the announcement to the new law to reporting obligation. Since also the Abrechunungsprogramme for the bookkeeping with large announcement geupdatet. can remember that with us afterwards so some problems what the automatic recognition of the bank enterprises by the new input kind of the IBAN and BIC instead of the BLZ u Ktonr occurred u the chaos broke out
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The tightened law what the bank secrecy finally extinguishes as well as every personal right in this point thus the authorities to it entitles, at any time in full extent without the necessity of an announcement, your or judicial consent - the bank accounts of everyone to see, was passed last year 2018 exactly on the last day before the summer break in the Bundestag! One does not even get more with whether there one took insight, takes - and in which Umpfang. A right of appeal is therefore also no longer given
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😂From time to time read the attachments to the bank statements. Nee these laws are passed no matter whether you agree with it or not, asked is also none of us what that concerns. If one has not to do there from occupation with or is privately interested in the legislation, one gets that so incidentally with, that there something has changed again - as so often
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The savings banks can cancel the existing account but at the same time provide you with a new one with all the restrictions. You have the right to object within a specified period, this is mentioned in the letter of termination if this deviates from the legal framework (only extended objection period, they may not shorten this)
If you take advantage of this, you keep the existing account and it will be converted accordingly to the PKonto, but this is accompanied by important changes for the customer. as well as the services of the institute limited to a minimum
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Do the OC's "based" in Malta actually pay taxes? If so, to whom actually?
And what you should also not forget
The treatment of German addicts, who have gambled themselves into ruin via foreign Online Casinos, is financed from this "bottomless pit"...without even a single cent of any tax having flowed into it beforehand.
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Online casinos pay taxes in Germany, since taxes must also be paid for illegal activities.
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