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Other topics related to... : Accusation of money laundering because of 100.00 euros? (Page 6)

Topic created on 12th Jul. 2022 | Page: 6 of 8 | Answers: 73 | Views: 14,625
B****e
garfield68 wrote on 13.07.2022 at 17:18: because of 100€ make such a fuss... one can really hardly believe... typical germany...

Because of 14 cent

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c****9
gamble1 wrote on 13.07.2022 at 10:20: So I also do not think that will happen there very much

Nevertheless, it's really cool if you imagine times there you submit to the state contract and plays well with 5 seconds rule 1 € Max Bet and 1000 € limit and as a thank you you get a headache because no one mediates the banks what is now ok and what is not

You can not make this up

And to make the whole thing even more absurd, the whole thing happens because of a payout of 100.14 € of which 100.00 € is already demonstrably own money

Who there seriously as the first money laundering comes to mind should possibly not necessarily work at a bank that is such an exaggerated waste of resources, especially taxpayers' money for the investigations there would have to have really more sensitivity

If the story is really so true this is really a case of ... Oh Wow that believes me no sow

I think many people have got it wrong. The gambling contract actually interests the banks zero. Why also?
For the bank, you remain a Risk customer, whether it is regulated throughout Germany or not.

The banks will continue to forward a report of suspicion of black money, or terminate the account
terminate. They have their terms and conditions in case of need.

Actually, the contract only changes the extension to tax evasion.

Regarding the 14 cent is also only true if he has not previously made a cash Deposit,
or ominous transfers from e-wallets or other has received.
Then he would have "washed" the complete 100€.

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DieWunderharke5000
Top Member
conrad9 wrote on 07/13/2022 at 19:20
I think a lot of people are getting this wrong. The gambling contract actually interests the banks zero. Why should they?

It is not correct like that either. The new treaty makes the banks, as payment service providers, the ones who face hefty penalties if they make payments to illegal casinos. That's the only reason why they're interested in it lately

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Sebi123
Amateur
You mean deposits in a corresponding online casino?
Because you could avoid this by not making any more deposits via the house bank but only paying out possible wins to the account.

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DieWunderharke5000
Top Member
I wouldn't be so sure. The contract states

§ 28a Administrative offenses
(1) A regulatory offense is committed by anyone who intentionally or negligently




  1. contrary to Section 4 (1) sentence 2 or 3, participates in payments in connection with unauthorized gambling,




There are a hundred other points. If you are interested, I'll link it here. Nice reading

https://mi.sachsen-anhalt.de/fileadmin/Bibliothek/Politik_und_Verwaltung/MI/MI/3._Themen/Gluecksspiel/201029_Gluecksspielstaatsvertrag_2021_-_Druckfassung.pdf



EDIT: But actually has nothing to do with the problem of the thread creator, so this may lead in the wrong direction

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c****9
DieWunderharke5000 wrote on 13.07.2022 at 20:20
That's not correct either. Due to the new treaty, banks as payment service providers are the ones who face hefty penalties if they make payments to illegal casinos. That's the only reason they're interested in it lately


This is also incorrect: the banks have been required for years not to forward payments to casinos
That's why banks were also fined by BaFin. However, the regulatory supervision was
rather lax. This is likely to change significantly as a result of the tax evasion

In this respect, it is not an innovation. Presumably, the authorities are now watching very closely, and the banks are less confident
less. I also don't know whether they can theoretically be brought on board as "accomplices" through unchecked forwarding.
If so, the effort would probably be too great, which in turn would explain the increased number of terminations.

@Sebi
And what do you tell the bank where the money comes from? You can twist and turn it however you want

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Hanshanshans
Expert
conrad9 wrote on 07/13/2022 at 21:31


@Sebi
And what do you tell the bank where the money comes from? You can spin it any way you want

In which direction the money flows, plays no role. Wunderharke has also copied out of the contract:

§ 28a administrative offenses
(1) A regulatory offense is committed by anyone who intentionally or negligently




  1. contrary to Section 4 (1) sentence 2 or 3, participates in payments in connection with unauthorized gambling,



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c****9
Hanshanshans wrote on 07/13/2022 at 21:56
In which direction the money flows, does not matter. Has Wunderharke so copied out of the contract:

§ 28a administrative offences
(1) Ordnungswidrig acts, who intentionally or negligently




  1. contrary to Section 4 (1) sentence 2 or 3, participates in payments in connection with unauthorized gambling,




Yes, that is true. But what I understand zero, if I participate in unauthorized gambling, I will most likely
i will not pay taxes. Consequently, I make myself liable to tax evasion. Or the casino and I, or just the
Casino, or who now?

There the Owi would be still a trifle!

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Hanshanshans
Expert
Pooh, I'm out of that, could merely speculate

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pommes
Rookie
conrad9 wrote on 13.07.2022 at 19:20
I think a lot of people are getting this wrong. The gambling contract actually interests the banks zero. Why should they?
For the bank you remain a Risk customer, whether it is regulated Germany-wide or not.

The banks will continue to forward a report of suspicion of black money, or cancel the account
terminate. They have their terms and conditions in case of need.

Actually, the contract only changes the extension to tax evasion.

Regarding the 14 cent is also only true if he has not previously made a cash Deposit,
or ominous transfers from e-wallets or other has received.
Then he would have "washed" the complete 100€.

I make no cash deposit, never and e-wallets also not.

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