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Online Casinos in general: Sue Platincasino? (Page 4)

Topic created on 18th Nov. 2021 | Page: 4 of 19 | Answers: 188 | Views: 45,790
frapi07
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Milo1 wrote on 11/19/2021 at 12:40 PM
Here's the deal....
I've had to verify with Platin several times as well, with expanded scope.
Last I should even properly take off the pants and still virtually bend over in front of them.
They are already meticulous in my opinion

Probably wanted the salary records of the last 3 months, right?

His credit rating will certainly have been very good and he will accordingly earn above average or have certain securities. It is hard to take 5 loans nowadays. The total amount is also over 105,000 € and I think min. just as much you have to present to the credit institutions as security.

Of course I feel sorry for the gentleman. No question, 100.000€ are a lot of money and to lose it within one year is not nice. You don't wish that on anyone, not even your worst enemy. I even hope that he will get it back somehow, but I can't give a prognosis, because I don't know his situation 100% and I didn't study law. But what I can see from the outside is a huge addiction problem that he has not had fixed and also gives the impression that he does not want to fix this problem.

I myself play at Platin and can only agree with what you write about Platin. Platin is very reputable. No matter if it's deposits or withdrawals. I have never had any problems with them. I have not yet had the luck to withdraw a 5-digit amount, but contributions under 5,000€ have been paid out within a few hours. I often read about other casinos that take weeks or even months to cash out or where deposits just never "arrived". Some dislike Platin because of their bad experience, but the harsh reality is that no casino in this world will give away money. Every casino wants to generate revenue and it is or should be clear that you will be in the red on a long-term basis.

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frapi07
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Katharina2 wrote on 19.11.2021 at 13:03
You are yes right about the 1st part. Only addiction is addiction and I think,
the adjusting screws do not help. He seems to be too sick and needs to be in REHA-
Intensive. In the 2nd paragraph is just no longer European law, because casinos from
german license can apply immediately. This is all EU-compliant. They have
lost here actually nothing without German license. Only that counts and if it
and if it comes to the court hearing, the topic 'addiction' will be the subject anyway.
But let's wait and see on the subject of drugs, booze, cigarettes, canabis and the like. Things I can
i can't talk about anyway. Therefore, my respect, if users still get so well-mannered, nice
Contributions.

That's the case as of July 1,2021, but he already gambled a considerable amount at Platin before that. Until 7/1/2021, Online Casinos were in a gray area. Thus, gambling at Platin was tolerated in Germany until 7/1/2021. It was not completely legal, but you were allowed to participate in gambling without fear of criminal consequences (many people forget that even as a consumer you are liable to prosecution if you participate in illegal gambling)

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Katharina2
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Milo1 wrote on 19.11.2021 at 10:36 am: Under guarantee he will not get anything back, he has to accept that. Min. 95% of the messages are wrong that the people have received their money back. There is a real business model behind it, think about it..... Clearly there are exceptions where really errors are present and the casino must refund.
The gambling industry is so unimaginably huge, but they are also not stupid and handle basically illegal. Of course there are a few exceptions where it does not run properly according to laws.
Platin is one of the most reputable casinos on the market, I think everyone here in the forum knows that. And he was guaranteed several times controlled by Platin and more than once he had to verify himself, every bet
I don't want to talk him down, but he is a sick gambler and for sure only half the truth was told here and now they are looking for any straw that will somehow get him out of there.
It is turned here to a zockergemeinde to get out of the whole mess.... Find the error 🙄

Boy seek professional help and delete EVERYTHING that pertains to gambling.

Conspiracy theorist ?

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evopower140
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But then he would have to get from 01.07 everything that goes over 1000 euros new contract and so

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moralischverwerflich
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Catherine2 wrote on 11/19/2021 at 1:13 pm
Conspiracy theorist ?

Ne, Realist.....

And whether before or after 1.7. no German judge will order a casino which delivers "tax" to the treasury, to reimburse a gambling addict the coal

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frapi07
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evopower140 wrote on 19.11.2021 at 13:18: But then he would have to get from 01.07 everything that goes over 1000 euros new contract and so

That could be quite possible, but he has already told half a year ago that he lost 100,000€. Speak the whole sum he will never be able to get back in my opinion. In my eyes, loss minimization is simply tried here, because he just did not have the necessary luck

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Katharina2
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frapi07 wrote on 19.11.2021 at 13:11
That is the case as of July 1,2021, but he gambled a considerable amount at Platin before that. Until 7/1/2021, Online Casinos were in a gray area. Thus, gambling at Platin was tolerated in Germany until 7/1/2021. It was not completely legal, but you were allowed to participate in gambling without fear of criminal consequences (many people forget that even as a consumer you are liable to prosecution if you participate in illegal gambling)


That is correct, only must Juristen times drüber schau'n, because we can a
Success or not, not estimate. Asking and checking the case costs
nothing with the lawyer. Perhaps also a question, to what extent he made himself punishable
he has done. You also think of everything.

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frapi07
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Katharina2 wrote on 19.11.2021 at 13:26
That is correct, only lawyers must look times over it, because we can a
Success or not, not estimate. Asking and checking the case costs
nothing at the lawyer. Perhaps also a question, to what extent he has made himself punishable
he has done. You also think of everything.

I agree with you on that. I have always emphasized that I am not a lawyer and I do not give a prognosis.

But if Platin would have been 100% illegal before 1.7.2021 according to § 285 of the penal code, all German players would have had to be convicted, which of course did not happen.

Here the deduction to the paragraph

§ 285 Participation in unlawful gambling

Whoever participates in public gambling (§ 284 ) shall be punished by imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or by a fine not exceeding one hundred and eighty daily penalty units.

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Katharina2
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Milo1 wrote on 11/19/2021 at 1:24 PM
Ne, Realist.....

And whether before or after 1.7. no German judge will order a casino which delivers "tax" to the treasury, to reimburse a gambling addict the coal.

If they deliver it then? The documents for this, can only a lawyer
request. Only the lawyer knows if it is legal or not. Again a
Question. We collect quite well.

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moralischverwerflich
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frapi07 wrote on 11/19/2021 at 1:04 pm
Probably wanted pay stubs for the last 3 months, right?

Initially yes. First the last 2, then afterwards the last 3. I put up with that halfway, but also only because it was somewhere understandable for me because I have paid relatively much, and that but also only because I have had a lot of luck before
And afterwards it was said that my accounts are no longer sufficient and should also other casino wins, possible inheritances, etc. pp prove or disclose. And from then I had then no more Bock and have deleted Platin, especially since the tax anyway nix more runs there

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