Was wondering about this too. Was on the site today for once because of the weird by mail announced 50 summer evening spins that were in Legacy of Dead. Then I noticed this sudden abundance of providers. Previously there was since the expulsion from "com" felt only 17 slots or so.
Platin Casino is not on the whitelist, so they don't have a German license, at least not yet. No idea how they want to turn this around or whether they pay taxes, as long as they are not on the whitelist is of no use to them.
On their website, they also do not show a German license, but refer to the MGA license.
I think Platin is cheating people with the alleged tax and pocketing the money themselves. There are also no separate agreements with GGL. Either you have the German license or you don't.
Well, the intention of the players does not really play a big role. In the end, it's only about the fact that the contract is not valid. How it is exactly in Germany I can not tell you (but will be similar). In Austria, there is even a ruling from the Supreme Court that you can also reclaim money if you knew about the illegality.
So the bottom line is that anyone can Deposit in MGA casinos, hope for a win, and if it goes wrong, get the money back. Sounds absurd, but this is actually the legal situation.
I think this is to push the other casinos completely out of the market, so that the state casino can expand its monopoly position. Network blocks, etc. are hardly legally possible and also much too costly, so they just decided on this method.
It is clear that many players take advantage of this "offer". You could also say that players in Austria play with a 120% RTP.
I had also read that with Austria somewhere. I think you had mentioned that somewhere else. I find honestly scary, but that's just a side issue.
Yes, you just have to expect that you won't get everything back, because a good part will go to the lawyer. But well, the more time goes by, the more absurd the legal situation becomes.
Platin is not only the only casino that "pays" taxes. So is Pino. None of this makes any sense. They are illegal and the state supposedly collects taxes. Really makes zero sense. Why didn't the other casinos do the same? I really don't understand. Except that it's complete garbage and it's not paid anywhere.
Videoslots has done the same until a few weeks ago. Taxes collected, RTP down (which even one / two months before there was even the contract) and Maxeinsatz 1 €. This ran now almost 2 years so and now they have pulled the plug and supposedly come back this year.
They also have to pay a 10 million fine in the Netherlands and 2 million in the UK.
Platin Casino is not on the whitelist and thus they have no German license, at least until now. No idea how they want to turn this around or whether they pay taxes, as long as they are not on the whitelist is of no use to them.
On their website, they also do not show a German license, but refer to the MGA license.
I think Platin is cheating people with the alleged tax and pocketing the money themselves. There are also no separate agreements with GGL. Either you have the German license or you don't.
I see it similarly. I also believe that no one played on the crappy de-Platin site anymore. It was a real imposition. Maybe it was a quick shot to show something like "good will" to get the German license. And how self-disclosing to leave the very well paying German customers with "com" as a precaution. I never, ever believe that they will pay this tax to the state. If they don't have a German license, it's totally unbelievable and unexplainable anyway. But I believe that they brought all the providers back in to somehow attract the people they kicked out. But I wonder if it's worth it financially for them at all.
VS has been even more brazen with the tax. It was even levied on 1-cent spins, to the tune of one cent.
I see it similarly. Also think no one played on the crappy de platinum site anymore. Was yes a single imposition. Maybe also a quick shot to first show something like "good will" to now also strive for the German license. And how self-disclosing to leave the very well paying German customers with "com" as a precaution. I never, ever believe that they will pay this tax to the state. If they don't have a German license, it's totally unbelievable and unexplainable anyway. But I believe that they brought all the providers back in to somehow attract the people they kicked out. But I wonder if it's worth it financially for them at all.
VS has been even more brazen with the tax. It was even levied on 1-cent spins, to the tune of one cent.
Quite certainly even. The GGL is not interested in whether they pay taxes or not. As long as they don't have a license, they are illegal from the GGL's point of view. And Platin is unlikely to pay taxes if it doesn't make anything anyway.
This shows once again very well how casinos squeeze the players. And then you should seriously have a guilty conscience when you demand the money back.
The only really good casinos are to be found among the Curacaos and you can not sue them anyway - at least so far unsuccessfully. The MGA casinos have now been harassing players for years with the help of a shady authority. I can still remember well how a MGA casino once refused me for 2 weeks all possible documents, over 10 times I had to send the same documents, until I finally came to my payout. For this they have left themselves then again 4 days time.
And what many MGA casinos take out is no longer to be surpassed in impudence. Salary statements, violation of data protection, proof of assets, unredacted bank statements and even a bank statement from the brother. And then there is an inactive authority, which the casinos also refer to in these impertinences.
In many Curacao casinos, you go to the chat, send the documents there and within 5 minutes you are verified. The payouts are also so fast. But the main thing we were persuaded here for years that you should not play at the evil Curacaos. Sure, everywhere there are black sheep. There are also enough MGA casinos that have not paid out, including high Jackpot wins.
Was because of Gamblejoe long time the opinion that Curacaos are bad and have therefore never played at one. In reality it was the other way around all the time. With the MGA casinos you had to pick out the really good ones, while there are many Curacaos where it is complete standard, which you only find at the best MGA casinos.
In Curacao casinos I have often just like that 50 € real money gift. Or turnover-free cashback. Once I had asked for a bonus and then got 400 turnover-free free spins. In MGA casinos completely unimaginable. Even Videoslots couldn't keep up with that at the best of times.
Therefore, I am also quite happy that the MGA casinos are increasingly pushed out of the market. They could have done so much better and especially the regulatory authority could have designed player-friendly rules. Instead, this was inactive and has acted rather in the sense of the casinos. It all has a sour taste. All the Affiliate sites have also never made pressure to change anything. In the end, this was and is all a network consisting of casinos, affiliates and authority to squeeze the stupid player to the maximum. Normally, every single casino would have been blacklisted immediately, requiring proof of salary or rejecting a document for the 10th time because a corner was bent or the resolution wasn't in 50k. And I'm not even getting started on all the bonus traps.
As always, top contribution falcon. Can confirm your experience with good Curacao casinos. Spassino for example. Never documents required, always paid out within ner hour. Also high sums. Very player friendly. Or Winz. Also top store. But sometimes I think that such casinos are pure money laundering casinos. Never cause problems, just do not attract attention. Well. Who Cares? The main thing is to have a little entertainment and the coals come reliably.
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Platin Casino is not on the whitelist, so they don't have a German license, at least not yet. No idea how they want to turn this around or whether they pay taxes, as long as they are not on the whitelist is of no use to them.
On their website, they also do not show a German license, but refer to the MGA license.
I think Platin is cheating people with the alleged tax and pocketing the money themselves. There are also no separate agreements with GGL. Either you have the German license or you don't.
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I had also read that with Austria somewhere. I think you had mentioned that somewhere else. I find honestly scary, but that's just a side issue.
Yes, you just have to expect that you won't get everything back, because a good part will go to the lawyer. But well, the more time goes by, the more absurd the legal situation becomes.
Platin is not only the only casino that "pays" taxes. So is Pino. None of this makes any sense. They are illegal and the state supposedly collects taxes. Really makes zero sense. Why didn't the other casinos do the same? I really don't understand. Except that it's complete garbage and it's not paid anywhere.
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They also have to pay a 10 million fine in the Netherlands and 2 million in the UK.
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I see it similarly. I also believe that no one played on the crappy de-Platin site anymore. It was a real imposition. Maybe it was a quick shot to show something like "good will" to get the German license. And how self-disclosing to leave the very well paying German customers with "com" as a precaution. I never, ever believe that they will pay this tax to the state. If they don't have a German license, it's totally unbelievable and unexplainable anyway. But I believe that they brought all the providers back in to somehow attract the people they kicked out. But I wonder if it's worth it financially for them at all.
VS has been even more brazen with the tax. It was even levied on 1-cent spins, to the tune of one cent.
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Quite certainly even. The GGL is not interested in whether they pay taxes or not. As long as they don't have a license, they are illegal from the GGL's point of view. And Platin is unlikely to pay taxes if it doesn't make anything anyway.
This shows once again very well how casinos squeeze the players. And then you should seriously have a guilty conscience when you demand the money back.
The only really good casinos are to be found among the Curacaos and you can not sue them anyway - at least so far unsuccessfully. The MGA casinos have now been harassing players for years with the help of a shady authority. I can still remember well how a MGA casino once refused me for 2 weeks all possible documents, over 10 times I had to send the same documents, until I finally came to my payout. For this they have left themselves then again 4 days time.
And what many MGA casinos take out is no longer to be surpassed in impudence. Salary statements, violation of data protection, proof of assets, unredacted bank statements and even a bank statement from the brother. And then there is an inactive authority, which the casinos also refer to in these impertinences.
In many Curacao casinos, you go to the chat, send the documents there and within 5 minutes you are verified. The payouts are also so fast. But the main thing we were persuaded here for years that you should not play at the evil Curacaos. Sure, everywhere there are black sheep. There are also enough MGA casinos that have not paid out, including high Jackpot wins.
Was because of Gamblejoe long time the opinion that Curacaos are bad and have therefore never played at one. In reality it was the other way around all the time. With the MGA casinos you had to pick out the really good ones, while there are many Curacaos where it is complete standard, which you only find at the best MGA casinos.
In Curacao casinos I have often just like that 50 € real money gift. Or turnover-free cashback. Once I had asked for a bonus and then got 400 turnover-free free spins. In MGA casinos completely unimaginable. Even Videoslots couldn't keep up with that at the best of times.
Therefore, I am also quite happy that the MGA casinos are increasingly pushed out of the market. They could have done so much better and especially the regulatory authority could have designed player-friendly rules. Instead, this was inactive and has acted rather in the sense of the casinos. It all has a sour taste. All the Affiliate sites have also never made pressure to change anything. In the end, this was and is all a network consisting of casinos, affiliates and authority to squeeze the stupid player to the maximum. Normally, every single casino would have been blacklisted immediately, requiring proof of salary or rejecting a document for the 10th time because a corner was bent or the resolution wasn't in 50k. And I'm not even getting started on all the bonus traps.
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Boah how interesting, I did not know that yet🤣
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I think you are not up to date here yet there are currently two threads where the closure / conversion of Platin discuss
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