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Online Casinos in general: Sue Platincasino? (Page 7)

Topic created on 18th Nov. 2021 | Page: 7 of 19 | Answers: 188 | Views: 46,903
frapi07
Elite
Katharina2 wrote on 11/21/2021 at 10:51 am: You are certainly right about addiction and gambling behavior. Only addiction prevention starts
also with casino and fair play with wins. And when I see the post #16,
where he has won 42 T€ and lost again plus 105T€ still invested, without
any win, then probably also the casino is sick and not only the player. They
poker very high by playing illegally with an addict, not letting him win, destroying existences
not letting him win, destroying livelihoods, families and lives. They are rulers over games and
Generators and software. GlüStV2021 knows this and so does our mama Justizia.
And yes, he has to fight legally and probably has great prospects of success.
At the moment and changes in DE anyway, what other affected in the past
was not possible. With the legal process, he should already be able to show serious measures to
to fight his addiction.

What do you think a service Provider (in this case Platin) should do? The OCs only offer the slots to play. They have nothing to do with the prize distribution - the RTP is up to the slot manufacturer (Pragmatic, No Limit City ect.). Platin has Pragmatic slots on offer, for example, but I noticed that not all of them are offered. There are a few missing (e.g. release the kraken). I haven't asked why they don't have that on offer, but there must be a reason (maybe the slot isn't running as it should). Also, they recently put No Limit slots in and took them out a few weeks later (X-Ways Hoarder). Why they were taken out I can't tell you, but it's possible because there can be errors somehow.

Where I agree with you is that it's easy to register in the OCs and Deposit without any problems. This is something I think they should avoid because it also puts u18 in danger of gambling away their money or worse their parents money. But you have to know that we are only at the beginning of government regulation. Before that it was illegal in DE (except in Schleswig-Holstein) and only tolerated. For example, deposit limits have been set, which is a start.

He has certainly not lost 105k€ without making further wins. To 100% he will have won times even now and then 5-digit. These wins never completely saturated him. I am sure that he first tried to recoup his original win of 42,000€ (i.e. the lost 22,000).

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frapi07
Elite
Anonymous wrote on 21/11/2021 at 12:38 PM
Matthias: Post removed due to provocation - user banned.

Please what? Where did I write about my parents? Where did I tell that my father was a gambling addict? I think you are confusing me with someone else. Regardless, I would advise you to write more carefully, because words can often hurt. Personally, it doesn't bother me right now, because I don't have a gambling-addicted father (thank God).

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Anonym
So unbelievable what is written here, positive and negative

1. Where did I write that I have not played for months?
Unfortunately, my last game day was the 17.11.2021... 9000€ Lost, on 9.11.2021 I had already lost 8000€, extra a loan on 5.11.2021 about 17,000€ taken. Because I hoped to win my money back (yes Stupid I know)

2. I did not know that online casino was illegal, otherwise I would have tried to sue for money back before, I stumbled upon it by accident.
Games for 10 years, so I have already lost a total of over 200,000 €, I started with StarGames, Wunderino, but at that time never made credits for it, was not so easy in the past, 1-2 € maximum bet.

Shit online loans opportunities with Che..24

Yes won again what (rarely) , but never so good pictures at once, as the first 2 weeks.




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frapi07
Elite
Jeeg1975 wrote on 21.11.2021 at 14:23: So incredible what is written here, positive and negative

1. Where did I write that I have not played for months?
Unfortunately, my last game day was the 17.11.2021... 9000€ Lost, on 9.11.2021 I had already lost 8000€, extra a loan on 5.11.2021 about 17,000€ taken. Because I hoped to win my money back (yes Stupid I know)

2. I did not know that online casino was illegal, otherwise I would have tried to sue for money back before, I stumbled upon it by accident.
Games for 10 years, so I have already lost a total of over 200,000 €, have started with StarGames, Wunderino, only at that time never made credits for it, was not so easy in the past, 1-2 € maximum bet.

Shit online loans opportunities with Che..24

Yes won again what (rarely) , but never so good pictures at once, as the first 2 weeks.


Hey,

To point 1: I'll gladly tell you where you said that. On page 2 you wrote:

"The final calculation is that I was from 10.2020 (game start) to 1.7.2021 -105,000€"

Based on this statement, I initially assumed that you had started playing in 2020 (at Platin) and stopped in July 2021. I'm sorry if I made a wrong assumption, but if you only get vague statements, then nothing useful comes out of it.

I'm not your guardian and I don't want to teach you any better, but please, do yourself a favor and stop taking out more loans and especially putting money into the casino. This will only make it worse than it already is.

Little by little more is coming to light. May I ask why you don't want to sue Wunderino and co. too? Why only Platin? Summed up, you have also lost 100,000€ at the other online casinos. I do not understand the sense behind it. Do you think Platin is not legal and therefore hope for higher chances of success in court? Platin is the only casino you mentioned that is currently supposed to (first they actually have to) pay money to the German treasury. Just as an aside.

To point 2: Ignorance does not protect against punishment!

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Anonym
Wunderino was at the beginning of 2019 think so 25-30K lost, it was said under 20K they do nothing, will of course if it is possible also try there, Restliche casinos are partly older than 3 years StarGames eg and think at that time I lost under 10K per casino.

The 100K were at several casinos...
Stargames, Quasar, Super Gaminator, Rizk, Wunderino, Hyperino, Wildz, SlotsMillion, Winota, 888, LeoVegas, Drückglück,

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Katharina2
Top Member
@frapr07

As for the 5.3% tax no one knows if they are paid and
they do not replace the lack of license or make the casino legal.

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Katharina2
Top Member
Jeeg1975 wrote on 21.11.2021 at 16:22: Wunderino was lost at the beginning of 2019 think so 25-30K, it was said under 20K they do nothing, will of course if it is possible also try there, Restliche Casinos are partly older than 3 years StarGames z.b. and think at that time I lost under 10K per casino.

The 100K were at several casinos...
Stargames, Quasar, Super Gaminator, Rizk, Wunderino, Hyperino, Wildz, SlotsMillion, Winota, 888, LeoVegas, Drückglück,

Now it all puts into perspective a bit, because you write in the opening post:

copy:
am desperate, have lost 120,000 since 10.2020 at Platincasino , is there any way to sue the money back?

Am heavily in Debt 100,000 gambling debt.

In this sense my postings are to be understood. But now 100 T€
went to 13 casinos ? Am I now on the hose?
Clarify times please.

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frapi07
Elite
Katharina2 wrote on 21.11.2021 at 18:05
Now it puts everything into perspective a bit, because you write in the opening post:

Copy:
am desperate, lost 120,000 since 10.2020 at Platincasino , is there any way to sue the money back?

Am heavily in Debt 100,000 gambling debt.

In this sense my postings are to be understood. But now 100 T€
went to 13 casinos ? Am I on the hose now?
Clarify times please.

He has gambled away a total of over 200,000€.

The first 100.000€ in different casinos and the other 100.000€ at Platin.

With Platin's tax deduction, I specifically mentioned that they supposedly do it. We will only be able to know later if they will do it.

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evopower140
Expert
The fact that Platin pays taxes does not make them legal the only thing is that they keep the worst off their backs the tax office (there is nothing worse in Germany than tax offenses) therefore they are still illegal because they follow absolutely no rules that are in the new contract and therefore would not get a license

To point 2 they would have kept to the German law he would have maximum 12 K loss more not

Platin would have had to make after 60 K in such a short time a further Verification but clearly he was a very well paying customer

And last but not least the Platin hype would not be if they would stick to the rules because let's be honest without the rules there would be 1000 better whether with verification, payout, bonus and and and

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frapi07
Elite
evopower140 wrote on 21.11.2021 at 19:24: The Platin pays taxes makes them far from legal the only thing is that they hold the worst first of all from the neck the tax office (there is nothing worse in Germany like tax offenses) therefore they are still illegal because they adhere to absolutely no rules that see in the new contract and would therefore also get no license

To point 2 they would have kept to the German law he would have maximum 12 K loss more not

Platin would have had to make after 60 K in such a short time a further Verification but clearly he was a very well paying customer

And last but not least the Platin hype would not be if they would stick to the rules because let's be honest without the rules there would be 1000's of better ones with verification, payout, bonus and and and

May I ask how you come to this max. 12k €?

That Platin currently does not adhere to certain rules is of course for many still the last reason why they play there. Good Bonuses are available at Platin only if you ask in Platin chat. But I personally do not use. Verification and payout are good in my opinion. There are definitely worse casinos.

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