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5th Feb. 2019, at 01:28 pm CET#11
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Gambling will be similar to drugs. As soon as they are no longer freely available or illegal, they will be consumed "underground" and the government will no longer have any control over them.
Knochen wrote on 05/02/2019 at 13:08: The problem is that it doesn't really pay off with the tax revenue. After all, what ends up having to be paid by taxpayers' money in terms of therapies, bankruptcies, court cases and even prison sentences is not exactly low either. The government has to constantly weigh things up
As long as the benefit is greater than the harm, nothing at all will change...
And with the several billions that are sunk every year, theoretically a new addiction clinic and a prison could be built every week - and the thing always pays off
and the thing still pays off
But if it gets out of hand one day... e.g. similar to smoking, then the state is very well willing to act.
Clearly, the damage caused by smoking is greater than the benefit - and then even the last government idiot is willing to change something.
Ichbins2018 wrote on 02/05/2019 2:32 PM
As long as the benefits are greater than the harm nothing will change at all...
And with the several billions that are sunk every year, theoretically a new addiction clinic and a prison could be built every week
and the thing still pays off
But if it gets out of hand one day... e.g. similar to smoking, then the state is very well willing to act.
Clearly, the damage caused by smoking is greater than the benefit - and then even the last government idiot is willing to change something.
That is nevertheless with the gambling in addition, not differently. Now add all the hidden taxes. A gambling addict spends much less money on luxury goods and even food. Less VAT is definitely a relevant factor. Such treatments in addiction clinics cost the health Insurance also well and gladly times 500€+ PER DAY. And you are usually there for several weeks
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5th Feb. 2019, at 02:52 pm CET#14
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If a casino in Germany has to pay taxes, who do you think pays?
Either the RTP is lowered, or when 100 euros are deposited, 80 euros arrive in the account
Do not think that the casinos do not apportion that!
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5th Feb. 2019, at 02:53 pm CET#15
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9c-3f wrote on 02/05/2019 2:52 pm: If a casino has to pay taxes in Germany, who do you think pays?
Either the RTP is lowered, or if 100 euros are deposited, 80 euros arrive in the account
Don't think the casinos don't apportion that!
who pays it to the gaming halls?
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5th Feb. 2019, at 02:59 pm CET#16
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9c-3f wrote on 02/05/2019 2:52 pm: If a casino has to pay taxes in Germany, who do you think pays?
Either the RTP is lowered, or if 100 euros are deposited, 80 euros arrive in the account
Don't think the casinos don't apportion that!
Will run like sports betting. They do it this way: Either 5% tax or worse odds.
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5th Feb. 2019, at 03:02 pm CET#17
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GrandpaGrandma wrote on February 05, 2019 at 2:53 pm
who pays it to the arcades?
When I read from people here, the gamblers pay it by the worse payout. So not necessarily ne great solution.
The problem is just....the people want to play - see here with Gamble Joe - and the people can not be forbidden to play.
Personally, I have no problem with it, but if the people are encouraged - almost forced - to play, then I get a slight puffing.
This concerns, for example, the deceitful advertising on television...
But that's the way it is, always true to the motto of the GI: Keep them stupid, I'll make them poor.
Ichbins2018 wrote on 05/02/2019 at 15:10: klaro....the economic damage is immense.
The problem is just....the people want to play - see here with Gamble Joe - and the people do not allow themselves to be forbidden to play.
Personally, I have no problem with it, but if the people are encouraged - almost forced - to do so, then I get a slight puffing.
This concerns, for example, the deceitful advertising on television...
But that's the way it is, always true to the motto of the GI: Keep them stupid, I'll make them poor.
TV advertising should be banned, just as tobacco advertising was banned. Alcohol as well, also dating portals, etc. I can think of a lot of things that should not be allowed to advertise
But nobody forces the people to play and also here at GJ only a minimal part of the people is active. Besides, a court decided ages ago that man has a gambling instinct that cannot be forbidden, or something like that. On this basis, Games of chance such as the lottery or in the casinos take place. It is therefore very unlikely that there will be no more gambling at all. It would still be desirable for the whole thing to be more regulated online than it is now.
I would really have no problem with maintaining the current legal situation if the state itself would simply open an online casino, similar to a casino. Then it can abide by all the regulations there and the player is guaranteed a safe game. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen, as gambling is a state matter and the states would have to open their own OCs, which will certainly not happen
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As long as the benefit is greater than the harm, nothing at all will change...
And with the several billions that are sunk every year, theoretically a new addiction clinic and a prison could be built every week - and the thing always pays off
and the thing still pays off
But if it gets out of hand one day... e.g. similar to smoking, then the state is very well willing to act.
Clearly, the damage caused by smoking is greater than the benefit - and then even the last government idiot is willing to change something.
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No more German licenses for online casinos
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That is nevertheless with the gambling in addition, not differently. Now add all the hidden taxes. A gambling addict spends much less money on luxury goods and even food. Less VAT is definitely a relevant factor. Such treatments in addiction clinics cost the health Insurance also well and gladly times 500€+ PER DAY. And you are usually there for several weeks
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No more German licenses for online casinos
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Either the RTP is lowered, or when 100 euros are deposited, 80 euros arrive in the account
Do not think that the casinos do not apportion that!
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who pays it to the gaming halls?
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Will run like sports betting. They do it this way: Either 5% tax or worse odds.
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When I read from people here, the gamblers pay it by the worse payout. So not necessarily ne great solution.
@gambler type
Probably it's like this
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Why if? If I understood Christoph's article correctly, they already pay taxes according to the stakes of German customers
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klaro....the economic damage is immense.
The problem is just....the people want to play - see here with Gamble Joe - and the people can not be forbidden to play.
Personally, I have no problem with it, but if the people are encouraged - almost forced - to play, then I get a slight puffing.
This concerns, for example, the deceitful advertising on television...
But that's the way it is, always true to the motto of the GI: Keep them stupid, I'll make them poor.
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No more German licenses for online casinos
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TV advertising should be banned, just as tobacco advertising was banned. Alcohol as well, also dating portals, etc. I can think of a lot of things that should not be allowed to advertise
But nobody forces the people to play and also here at GJ only a minimal part of the people is active. Besides, a court decided ages ago that man has a gambling instinct that cannot be forbidden, or something like that. On this basis, Games of chance such as the lottery or in the casinos take place. It is therefore very unlikely that there will be no more gambling at all. It would still be desirable for the whole thing to be more regulated online than it is now.
I would really have no problem with maintaining the current legal situation if the state itself would simply open an online casino, similar to a casino. Then it can abide by all the regulations there and the player is guaranteed a safe game. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen, as gambling is a state matter and the states would have to open their own OCs, which will certainly not happen
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