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Online Casinos in general: Inside Online Casinos - Your questions, my answers (ex-casino operator faces your questions) (Page 5)

Topic created on 19th Jun. 2023 | Page: 5 of 9 | Answers: 129 | Views: 14,343
Falke
Expert

Julian wrote on 06/20/2023 at 11:06 am: Good morning,

In general, we understand that with a story like this, some members may have doubts.
I exchanged a few sentences with Nova yesterday via the communicator and wrote him privately that I also had my doubts about this at the beginning.

Questioning various statements is also not reprehensible in principle.
What makes us extremely speechless, however, is the way some members are sometimes approached by the community.
Quote example: "Sorry troll, you're a moron"

We recently had the example with the YouTuber who wanted to introduce himself to us in the forum.
Even if you get the feeling that he is perhaps only registering to promote his channel, it should not degenerate into mobbing him out of the community.

We do not want to tolerate this behavior of some members any longer and can only urgently appeal to the respective members to work on their way of communication. It is unacceptable to directly attack other members in this way, and if this continues, we will also take tougher action against it in the near future.


Well, but you could be a little more relaxed. Most have asked him normal questions and just because then comes a single user daherkommt one must also not withdraw immediately. Especially as a supposedly former casino owner, there should be a little more thick skin.

Above all, what can the other users for it, who wrote quite normal and interested with him? Does he see the Gamblejoe community as a collective, where each user is liable for the statements of another user?

A former casino owner who is made of sugar water, glorious. And immediately retreats in a huff because he can't cope with the 10% negative feedback in an internet forum despite the 90% positive feedback.

The fact that in the end he doesn't write anything other than what is already common knowledge anyway, then logically also raises doubts.

Incidentally, there was also some misinformation, such as that the casinos only have to pay the game developers if the player loses, and that the manufacturers are left empty-handed if the player wins. At least if you believe Matthias and generally the team of Gamblejoe, who explained a long time ago that the game developers receive an amount per spin, regardless of whether the player wins or not. And that sounds much more logical to me as well.

And someone who has run an online casino should actually know that. Yes, he MUST know that, because that's his daily bread and he must have concluded umpteen contracts with the manufacturers.

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chilliy
Amateur

mowolum wrote on 20.06.2023 at 13:14: I had / have my doubts. They could have possibly been cleared up with time and further discussion.
What I do not find nice, to approach someone in a way .that simply does not belong.

But someone who comes from the gamer scene, no matter what he has done at the end of the day, would have to have a thicker skin and criticism abkönnen.

But in the end, people are all different.

I find the reaction of Julian very good.
The way of some, to maintain here the contact is already questionable.
Would people do it without the "protective wall" of the Internet .face by face also so ?

Of course, only a few would say something face by face. Clearly one can express criticism, however, I also find this in an appropriate "tone" to do and not immediately insulting to become. That the TE now but because of a person, other here no more info would like to give, I personally find something exaggerated but well, to each his own.

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Hidaruma
Top Member
What this forum is missing is an ignore function. That certainly helps hot tempers, including me.

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Lionking
Top Member

Hidaruma wrote on 20.06.2023 at 13:31: What this forum is missing is an ignore function. That certainly helps heated tempers, including mine.


Oh be honest, it would be boring as hell if everyone here would only do the "cuddle course".

I read so "Battles" with pleasure, of course, everything should remain within the framework.😉

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Hidaruma
Top Member

Lionking wrote on 20.06.2023 at 13:39:

Oh be honest, it would be boring as hell if everyone here just did the "cuddle course".

I like to read so "Battles", of course, everything should remain within the framework.😉

There are just people who are then IRL also times a little more restless (I for example), if you have to read again such a stupid Alu Hut contribution or the like.


There are many here that I would like to ignore and also certainly many who would like to ignore me^^. Ifs Hilft, why not.

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Falke
Expert

Hidaruma wrote on 20/06/2023 at 13:45:

There are just people who become then IRL also sometimes a little more restless (I for example), if you have to read again such a stupid Alu Hut contribution or similar.


There are many here that I would like to ignore and also certainly many who would like to ignore me^^. If it helps, why not.

What are you doing in a public forum anyway, if you can not stand other opinions?

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Hidaruma
Top Member

Falcon wrote on 20.06.2023 at 13:58:

What are you even doing in a public forum if you can't stand other opinions?

Hmm. maybe a little masochism..who knows...


Posts screaming FRAUD or ABZOCCY are just not opinions in my opinion, but simply serve to put the losses into perspective and make you cry.

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Falke
Expert

Hidaruma wrote on 20.06.2023 at 14:05:

Hmm. maybe a bit of masochism..who knows...


Posts screaming FRAUD or ABZOCCY are just not opinions in my opinion, they just serve to put the losses into perspective and make you cry.

Belongs just now times to a gambling forum.

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Blubbo33
Elite
There I lobe me again my initial doubts!
Is already remarkable, first the Youtube star then the casino owner!

The first wanted to become a millionaire and the 2 was or is a millionaire and wanted to explain the quite intelligent forum the world of online casino!

One notices again and again that the community of Gamblejoe is hard to fool!

Since the tone may be quiet times rougher if you wanted to fool the GAMBLEJOES!

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DeinVater
Top Member
Hi Nova!
Just wanted to leave a COOL & a THANK YOU. You put an extraordinary amount of effort into answering the questions..🙂👍
Of course you are not a chatgpt ...... .. hopefully 🤭

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Langhans
Expert
Blubbo33 wrote on 20.06.2023 at 14:25: There I lobe me again my initial doubts!
Is already remarkable, first the Youtube star then the casino owner!

The first wanted to become a millionaire and the 2 was or is a millionaire and wanted to explain the world of online casino to the quite intelligent forum!

One notices again and again that the community of Gamblejoe is hard to fool!

Since the tone may become quiet times rougher if one wanted to hold the GAMBLEJOES to the fool!

I am sure that "the casino owner" (what a title ) had quite enough idea of matter and in addition ne patent expression form possessed, why he could have discussed quite certainly with THE GAMBLEJOES (who should be that now exactly, I do not know also) about the topic. For all I care he could have stayed....Don't know what was so wrong with the performance that you almost have to celebrate his departure.

PS. Personally, I would now also not introduce myself somewhere as the ultimate expert, because then you can actually only fall. Rather, I'd rather handle it in such a way that I gradually acquire the "status" with well-founded contributions, but I could not recognize any arrogance that might have made the whole thing appear in an unpleasant light.

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Blubbo33
Elite

Langhans wrote on 21.06.2023 at 00:44:
I am sure that "the casino owner" (what a title ) had sufficient knowledge of the subject matter and had a patented form of expression, which is why he could have discussed the topic with THE GAMBLEJOES (I don't know who that is exactly). For all I care he could have stayed....Don't know what was so wrong with the performance that you almost have to celebrate his departure.

PS. Personally, I would now also not introduce myself somewhere as the ultimate expert, because then you can actually only fall. Rather, I would rather handle it so that I gradually earn the "status" with well-founded contributions, but I could not recognize any arrogance that might have made the whole thing appear in an unpleasant light.

You have yet supplied the answer yourself!


If I imagine myself as : I know everything, I can only fall low !

With it you never come far in life, and with the first criticism you disappear but again !

Well then count 1 and 1 together!

GAMBLEJOES we are all !

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StarGames_Official
Experienced

Falcon wrote on 20.06.2023 at 13:21:

By the way, there was also some misinformation, such as that the casinos only have to pay the game developers if the player loses, and if the player wins, the manufacturers also get nothing. At least if you believe Matthias and generally the team of Gamblejoe, who explained a long time ago that the game developers receive an amount per spin, regardless of whether the player wins or not. And that sounds much more logical to me as well.

And someone who has run an online casino should actually know that. Yes, he MUST know that, because that's his daily bread and he must have concluded umpteen contracts with the manufacturers.

Hello Falke, we would like to clarify this briefly: we are not aware of any offers for the German market where the game manufacturer receives a remuneration "per spin" or has suggested something like that in an offer. The usual compensation option is a revenue share model, which really only makes money for the manufacturer when the game is played and it generates a win for the provider.


Of course, it is possible that the game manufacturer wants to protect itself in the case of a player win and thus puts a "Monthly Fixed Fee" in the contract: that is, in a case where the players have won more in the games than they have lost, the manufacturer gets a fixed remuneration of X euros instead of 0 euros.

Of course, the contracts are confidential and we do not know all the contracts of all suppliers.

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nova82
Rookie
So, I wanted to let this all sink in for a few days. That makes sense from time to time. I can handle criticism well, have no problem with unpleasant questions and have a thick skin

First of all - please forgive my typos from time to time, because I'm mostly on my cell phone and don't pay much attention to the autocorrect.

My point is simply that I would like to spend my time to answer questions and not be confronted with insults. That skepticism exists about my person, however, I can certainly understand, as there have certainly been enough other "trolls" here in the forum before. Nevertheless, I think that you can respectfully deal with each other and should avoid insults.

I am also not here to get recognition. We are in a very anonymous forum here after all. And believe me, if I want to get recognition, it's certainly not by spending my time answering questions. I have a stable circle of friends and family and do not need any recognition or attention here in this forum.

If anyone doubts any of my statements, I am happy to discuss, go into a little more depth and provide answers to the best of my knowledge. Because that was exactly my point when I created the thread.

For example, in relation to the remuneration of the game providers, I was accused of having no idea about the matter, because they are paid per spin. Here I can only say - I am not aware of any case or any casino or whitelabel where this is the case. For this stargames_official had also given feedback. To put me in the pillory because of this and to claim that I have no idea could easily be eliminated by the fact that the person who claims this can convince me and other readers here with counter-arguments and examples.

As already mentioned at the beginning, I really have no problem with having a lively discussion here. Only I think, especially in a Q&A thread, this does not guarantee that the thread remains clear.

My offer at this point - a fresh start with mutual respect! Unbiased, factual discussion and without insults. If someone is of a different opinion on certain topics and brings them forward accordingly factually, I also have no problem answering them just as factually.

In this sense - have a nice evening on a new start.



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nova82
Rookie
gagapapamama wrote on 06/20/2023 at 00:03: Hi Nova82,

I have only 2 questions for you. You write that you once ran a casino.

1. Question: What was the name of the casino?

2. Question: how many customers did you have.

My opinion, such a goldmine you do not give up so quickly.

Hi @gagapapamama, we were also still 2 years after quite small and had a customer base of about 210,000 players. but only about 10,000-12,000 players were active.

i don't want to disclose which brands these are. on the one hand, because they still exist and on the other hand, because I don't want to advertise here. as you can see from my winning pictures - which all come from casinos I've never had anything to do with - I haven't given any names here either.

running a casino can be lucrative, but it doesn't have to be. we had many months in which we paid out far more in wins than we had taken in customer money.

the decision to retire had several reasons. it was simply time for a change.

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