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Online Casinos in general: Gambeljoe supports scammers? Softswiss Casinos in the Toplist! (Page 14)

Topic created on 30th Jan. 2021 | Page: 14 of 19 | Answers: 189 | Views: 33,040
YungKafa12
Rookie

Matthlign wrote on 02/01/2021 at 16:18: @YoungKafa12

I have no idea if I am one of the people whose contributions to the topic you want to ignore in the future - but personally I think that I have always remained objective, criticized you or some of your comments but not attacked you personally and or insulted

Therefore I give now again something to the best

You are surprised that you are so attacked here or that your contributions are partly very ridiculous
I do not understand, because let's be honest, your first contribution was like a typical article of the Bild newspaper - a great hook, an exciting headline but very little content, few facts, no sources
However, I refer only to your first posts - meanwhile you try to prove your statements factually and cite sources
But as I said, related to your first posts, that was simply Bild Zeitung level - even if you may see it differently
The result in the form of a "shitstorms" you have then also immediately felt.
Of course, this does not necessarily happen below the belt, but you should not be surprised

Then just your "criticism" or your subliminal "attacks" in the direction of GJ or the GJ team
Partly you swing very subtly the sword of Damoclas over the heads of GJ.
Some users are here for years on the road and have so far always made positive experiences with the team and or already experienced the one or other assistance
Of course then some users react like that and shoot back in your direction
On an action follows a reaction, but you had to expect
Especially since, unlike you, there are users like me, who on the one hand is clear that GJ here earns from the users and the page is so financed or what kind of business model it is here and which are completely in the pure and just the opinion that it is a free offer and you have to make no demands here
Because that's exactly what you do, you demand things, opinions
Your argumentation, that we all pay here with our personal data - sorry, I can't take that seriously
If that were the case, I would have claims against Google, Facebook, Instagram and 13,987 other companies
It's your opinion and that's ok but in my opinion it's absolute nonsense

Lastly, I personally noticed one more thing that I'm sure is another reason you're getting so hostile here
It seems as if you are of the opinion that you have reinvented the wheel
As if you would reveal things that most users here were not already aware of
Most of the users here know what kind of business model GJ is and most of them also know that we are not only in a "gray area" regarding the legal situation, but also that many of the companies and their backers are not very serious or even criminal
Therefore, and this may not have been your intention, it comes a teilweiße so as if you put others who have commented here, as ignorant and stupid, just because they do not cheer you and see things differently.
As I said, it may not be your intention but it comes partly so with me and probably others, too

Personal attacks, attacks below the belt or harsh insults certainly have no place here
Also, I do not consider you personally to be an aluhuträger
Some things you write clearly correspond to reality and should perhaps even be brought much more into focus or brought to light
However, as I said, an action is always followed by a reaction and in part you are certainly not innocent of what is hurled at the here in part
However, this should of course remain factual and on a certain level, that is out of the question
Personally, I hope that you will find the answers you are looking for, but must honestly confess, for me it is a reality of which I am aware for a long time and do not quite understand all the excitement

Greetings to the round

P.s. the whole thing was written via cell phone, accordingly do not be surprised if one or the other "comma" is inappropriate and or I should have put one or the other "point" more. 😂 Also for the spelling I take no responsibility. 😂

Just to clarify: "I have never claimed that we pay here with our personal data" much more picked the example of how it runs with free email providers. My statement was that the service here is not free, as you claimed. But I quote "Exactly this fact, this site uses exactly the same, it provides you "free" bundled and also quite transparent information about Online Casinos to verfügung. (I have long assumed at least) And? does it click? besides, it plasters the page to with casino advertising in the hope that you click on it and sign up. And finally thus bring money into the cash register!" I do not want to reopen the content here, just clarify the statement.


Otherwise, I mentioned you in another post and praised your criticism and that I take your answers seriously, however they turn out. Yes, may be that it came across in Bild manier, I have but x times mentioned that was emotional

To the rest and that refers to some other Kommetare on the last page in the thread, self-perception and how others perceive you are two different things. After some have expressed their opinion I reflected it and therefore in the previous post some again corrected or clarified. That's what you should do with common sense, right?

But now again something from my side. You misunderstand me, I do not row back, am also not surprised about the criticism, I already assumed at the beginning. It is more or less about the insults (via private message and partly here in some comments).

So, I know exactly why the GJ team does not comment more. They wait nevertheless rather whether I bombs burst with the proofs which I have or just not. What I will not do for the time being. Now I struggle with all the comments here (brings nothing) pretty smart of the team
I suspect times if I completely withdraw then still comes some statement on which againrum can not refer quickly.

Somewhere, you are in your perception but also not on height. Here a side is operated the tidy funds erwirtftet and you fasselt constantly something of it that Daniel does not come back because of me think you not Matthias and Daniel Skypen regularly and hold themselves on the current one? On the other hand I had read a comment from Daniel in a thread about "regulation in DE". Still in December (am not sure) where it said "they will regulate themselves kaputt" (if I'm not mistaken from the wording). Was probably removed, and the last comments are a year ago, seems to be correct

Do you know what amuses me the most since I've been reading your comments? In the evidence I have, it is also about you. About users in the context of money or Provis. I would be interested to know if you all would still take the mouth deartig full, if you would see that in black and white (the Internet never forgets, and through the content I'm only become so emotional)

I understood the stalling tactics of the GJ team. And since I apparently can not expect a statement (unfortunately cowardly, can not express it differently), I respond after this post on no more Kommetare of users. (no offense to all those who exercise normal criticism or not)

Dat was's from me

Best you delete the thread dear GJ team.

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Karuen00
Amateur
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/02/2021 at 18:12

Just to clarify: "I have never claimed that we pay here with our personal data" much more picked the example of how it runs with free email providers. My statement was that the service here is not free, as you claimed. But I quote "Exactly this fact, this site uses exactly the same, it provides you "free" bundled and also quite transparent information about Online Casinos to verfügung. (I have long assumed at least) And? does it click? besides, it plasters the page to with casino advertising in the hope that you click on it and sign up. And finally thus bring money into the cash register!" I do not want to reopen the content here, just clarify the statement.


Otherwise, I mentioned you in another post and praised your criticism and that I take your answers seriously, however they turn out. Yes, may be that it came across in Bild manier, I have but x times mentioned that was emotional

To the rest and that refers to some other Kommetare on the last page in the thread, self-perception and how others perceive you are two different things. After some have expressed their opinion I reflected it and therefore in the previous post some again corrected or clarified. That's what you should do with common sense, right?

But now again something from my side. You misunderstand me, I do not row back, am also not surprised about the criticism, I already assumed at the beginning. It's more or less about the insults (via private message and partly here in some comments).

So, I know exactly why the GJ team does not comment more. They wait nevertheless rather whether I bombs burst with the proofs which I have or just not. What I will not do for the time being. Now I struggle with all the comments here (brings nothing) pretty smart of the team
I suspect times if I completely withdraw then still comes some statement on which againrum can not refer quickly.

Somewhere, you are in your perception but also not on height. Here a side is operated the tidy funds erwirtftet and you fasselt constantly something of it that Daniel does not come back because of me think you not Matthias and Daniel Skypen regularly and hold themselves on the current one? On the other hand I had read a comment from Daniel in a thread about "regulation in DE". Still in December (am not sure) where it said "they will regulate themselves kaputt" (if I'm not mistaken from the wording). Was probably removed, and the last comments are a year ago, seems to be correct

Do you know what amuses me the most since I've been reading your comments? In the evidence I have, it is also about you. About users in the context of money or Provis. I would be interested to know if you all would still take the mouth deartig full, if you would see that in black and white (the Internet never forgets, and through the content I'm only become so emotional)

I understood the stalling tactics of the GJ team. And since I apparently can not expect a statement (unfortunately cowardly, can not express it differently), I respond after this post on no more Kommetare of users. (no offense to all those who exercise normal criticism or not)

Dat was's from me

Best you delete the thread dear GJ team.


Oh man what do you want? If you have a problem, please log off here

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Delarion
Amateur
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/02/2021 at 18:12

Just to clarify: "I never claimed that we pay here with our personal data" much more picked the example of how it runs with free email providers. My statement was that the service here is not free, as you claimed. But I quote "Exactly this fact, this site uses exactly the same, it provides you "free" bundled and also quite transparent information about Online Casinos to verfügung. (I have long assumed at least) And? does it click? besides, it plasters the page to with casino advertising in the hope that you click on it and sign up. And finally thus bring money into the cash register!" I do not want to reopen the content here, just clarify the statement.


Otherwise, I mentioned you in another post and praised your criticism and that I take your answers seriously, however they turn out. Yes, may be that it came across in Bild manier, I have but x times mentioned that was emotional

To the rest and that refers to some other Kommetare on the last page in the thread, self-perception and how others perceive you are two different things. After some have expressed their opinion I reflected it and therefore in the previous post some again corrected or clarified. That's what you should do with common sense, right?

But now again something from my side. You misunderstand me, I do not row back, am also not surprised about the criticism, I already assumed at the beginning. It's more or less about the insults (via private message and partly here in some comments).

So, I know exactly why the GJ team does not comment more. They wait nevertheless rather whether I bombs burst with the proofs which I have or just not. What I will not do for the time being. Now I struggle with all the comments here (brings nothing) pretty smart of the team
I suspect times if I completely withdraw then still comes some statement on which againrum can not refer quickly.

Somewhere, you are in your perception but also not on height. Here a side is operated the tidy funds erwirtftet and you fasselt constantly something of it that Daniel does not come back because of me think you not Matthias and Daniel Skypen regularly and hold themselves on the current one? On the other hand I had read a comment from Daniel in a thread about "regulation in DE". Still in December (am not sure) where it said "they will regulate themselves kaputt" (if I'm not mistaken from the wording). Was probably removed, and the last comments are a year ago, seems to be correct

Do you know what amuses me the most since I've been reading your comments? In the evidence I have, it is also about you. About users in the context of money or Provis. I would be interested to know if you all would still take the mouth deartig full, if you would see that in black and white (the Internet never forgets, and through the content I'm only become so emotional)

I understood the stalling tactics of the GJ team. And since I apparently can not expect a statement (unfortunately cowardly, can not express it differently), I respond after this post on no more Kommetare of users. (no offense to all those who exercise normal criticism or not)

Dat was's from me

Best you delete the thread dear GJ team.


how no big bang at the end? what am i waiting for all this time?

i thought you were going all wikileaks on us and revealing super secret information.

affinity links? i know boring
advertising revenue? nothing new...
do they secretly suck my wallet? i would have noticed...
do they debit my account? ... um nope

they earn money with data like email and co..omg the shit does facebook 3000x more often and yet every 2nd here uses whatsapp

your infos, proofs or weis der geier what you have to stand there on your bierdeckel seem to be not exactly new xD

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Begbie
Elite
14 pages. Are they worth reading?

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Delarion
Amateur

Begbie wrote on 02/01/2021 at 6:26 pm: 14 pages. Are they worth reading?

depends, boredom and wantste have something to laugh? then joar, is quite cute.


otherwise rather nope

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kyosuma
Experienced

YungKafa12 wrote on 01/02/2021 at 18:12

Just to clarify: "I have never claimed that we pay here with our personal data" much more picked the example of how it runs with free email providers. My statement was that the service here is not free, as you claimed. But I quote "Exactly this fact, this site uses exactly the same, it provides you "free" bundled and also quite transparent information about Online Casinos to verfügung. (I have long assumed at least) And? does it click? besides, it plasters the page to with casino advertising in the hope that you click on it and sign up. And finally thus bring money into the cash register!" I do not want to reopen the content here, just clarify the statement.


Otherwise, I mentioned you in another post and praised your criticism and that I take your answers seriously, however they turn out. Yes, may be that it came across in Bild manier, I have but x times mentioned that was emotional

To the rest and that refers to some other Kommetare on the last page in the thread, self-perception and how others perceive you are two different things. After some have expressed their opinion I reflected it and therefore in the previous post some again corrected or clarified. That's what you should do with common sense, right?

But now again something from my side. You misunderstand me, I do not row back, am also not surprised about the criticism, I already assumed at the beginning. It's more or less about the insults (via private message and partly here in some comments).

So, I know exactly why the GJ team does not comment more. They wait nevertheless rather whether I bombs burst with the proofs which I have or just not. What I will not do for the time being. Now I struggle with all the comments here (brings nothing) pretty smart of the team
I suspect times if I completely withdraw then still comes some statement on which againrum can not refer quickly.

Somewhere, you are in your perception but also not on height. Here a side is operated the tidy moneys gained and you fasselt constantly something of it that Daniel does not come back because of me think you not Matthias and Daniel Skypen regularly and hold themselves on the current one? On the other hand I had read a comment from Daniel in a thread about "regulation in DE". Still in December (am not sure) where it said "they will regulate themselves kaputt" (if I'm not mistaken from the wording). Has probably been removed, and the last comments are a year ago, seems to be correct

Do you know what amuses me the most since I've been reading your comments? In the evidence I have, it is also about you. About users in the context of money or Provis. I would be interested to know if you all would still take the mouth deartig full, if you would see that in black and white (the Internet never forgets, and through the content I'm only become so emotional)

I understood the stalling tactics of the GJ team. And since I apparently can not expect a statement (unfortunately cowardly, can not express it differently), I respond after this post on no more Kommetare of users. (no offense to all those who exercise normal criticism or not)

Dat was's from me

Best you delete the thread dear GJ team.


So that is yet again a conspiracy theory of the finest, exactly that is the problem with humanity each individual considers himself the shit middle point of the universe
Why the hell do you think anyone from GJ should care about you, why do you think Matthias is even bothering to inform Daniel about the bullshit you are trying to spread here?
Just look at it with realism, your alleged "bomb" that you're talking about all the time doesn't interest anyone, it's like a sack in China, no one cares...
Because you are so important? You are also just one of those who have pressed without thinking on the Affiliate link.
Sry but since I'm already piece smarter than you, I've never logged into a casino through a Gj link :&gt
Conclusion: you are just as stupid as everyone else and as soon as you hear the truth from someone you are A.) just stupid or B.) you are kicking someone's ass
But the truth is, boy you have a problem and this is not the sum you have lost so far, but the relation to reality is lost with you.
I give you the advice, sleep once ne night over it and think maybe times rather over it whether stationary in therapy would not go now the better way, than desperately on your money to hope.
Otherwise it makes no sense to explain anything to you, you are anchored in your delusion and that remains so.

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gamble1
Legend
The problem is always you can not prove it to them and because of a youtube video to make the horses shy is also slightly exaggerated for my taste

Because of what is being investigated ? That should know no one because ongoing investigations, especially by professionals from the FBI are not simply hung on the big bell that could be anything apart from that everyone is considered innocent until the opposite is proven

Casinos usually have investors who are inevitably connected to you if the investor shit Baut must not mean the company (casino) is bad

There are certainly many many black sheep out there but I think it is a bit unfair to talk all casinos bad even if I do not gamble in any of the above-mentioned there are also livelihoods on it and possibly do not even know the managers who runs companies that are in the background

Would look at the whole something unbiased

Apart from it then also the Provider and the MGA would have to take part otherwise nix there with Slot Manipulation and there we would be already again with the point for what? The money comes in anyway through the slots why Risk and take such a risk?

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Hidaruma
Top Member
The FBI raided the TE's kebab shop. Now money has to come from somewhere else.

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T****z

YungKafa12 wrote on 02/01/2021 at 18:12: ... I understood the stalling tactics of the GJ team. And since I can't seem to expect a statement (sorry coward, can't put it any other way), I'm not responding to any more comments from users after this post. (no offense to all those who exercise normal criticism or not)

Dat was's from me

Best you delete the thread dear GJ team.


So I like to read you

You can continue to text for all I care!

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Niroht
Experienced
Matthlign wrote on 02/01/2021 at 16:18: @YoungKafa12

I have no idea if I am one of the people whose contributions to the topic you want to ignore in the future - but personally I think that I have always remained objective, criticized you or some of your comments but not attacked you personally and or insulted

Therefore I give now again something to the best

You are surprised that you are so attacked here or that your contributions are partly very ridiculous
I do not understand, because let's be honest, your first contribution was like a typical article of the Bild newspaper - a great hook, an exciting headline but very little content, few facts, no sources
However, I refer only to your first posts - meanwhile you try to prove your statements factually and cite sources
But as I said, related to your first posts, that was simply Bild Zeitung level - even if you may see it differently
The result in the form of a "shitstorms" you have then also immediately felt.
Of course, this does not necessarily happen below the belt, but you should not be surprised

Then just your "criticism" or your subliminal "attacks" in the direction of GJ or the GJ team
Partly you swing very subtly the sword of Damoclas over the heads of GJ.
Some users are here for years on the road and have so far always made positive experiences with the team and or already experienced the one or other assistance
Of course then some users react like that and shoot back in your direction
On an action follows a reaction, but you had to expect
Especially since, unlike you, there are users like me, who on the one hand is clear that GJ here earns from the users and the page is so financed or what kind of business model it is here and which are completely in the pure and just the opinion that it is a free offer and you have to make no demands here
Because that's exactly what you do, you demand things, opinions
Your argumentation, that we all pay here with our personal data - sorry, I can't take that seriously
If that were the case, I would have claims against Google, Facebook, Instagram and 13,987 other companies
It's your opinion and that's ok but in my opinion it's absolute nonsense

Lastly, I personally noticed one more thing that I'm sure is another reason you're getting so hostile here
It seems as if you are of the opinion that you have reinvented the wheel
As if you would reveal things that most users here were not already aware of
Most of the users here know what kind of business model GJ is and most of them also know that we are not only in a "grey area" regarding the legal situation, but also that many of the companies and their backers are not very serious or even criminal
Therefore, and this may not have been your intention, it comes a teilweiße so as if you put others who have commented here, as ignorant and stupid, just because they do not cheer you and see things differently.
As I said, it may not be your intention but it comes partly so with me and probably others, too

Personal attacks, attacks below the belt or harsh insults certainly have no place here
Also, I do not consider you personally to be an aluhuträger
Some things you write clearly correspond to reality and should perhaps even be brought much more into focus or brought to light
However, as I said, an action is always followed by a reaction and in part you are certainly not innocent of what is hurled at the here in part
However, this should of course remain factual and on a certain level, that is out of the question
Personally, I hope that you will find the answers you are looking for, but must honestly confess, for me it is a reality of which I am aware for a long time and do not quite understand all the excitement

Greetings to the round

P.s. the whole thing was written via cell phone, accordingly do not be surprised if one or the other "comma" is inappropriate and or I should have put one or the other "point" more. 😂 Also for the spelling I take no responsibility. 😂

👍 Very good post, Matthlign.

@yungkafa12
I read all 14 pages and understand some points and some not.
Under the not understanding point falls the reference to Gamblejoe. So for me the Gamblejoe business model is clear and I think it is totally legitimate.
That is simply business, I'm comparison to other sides is Gamblejoe in the German-speaking countries simply for me and my requirements best offered side. Even better and as a benchmark for Gamblejoe to improve further I find Casinomeister. We are offered a platform, many casinos are listed and rated according to the criteria and standards of Gamblejoe and even ratings of the users.
Sure, what I would like to see is more up to date and recurring reviews. Casinos are getting better and much more unfortunately worse. Likewise, new and more comprehensive review points are needed for me, such as payout methods, Verification, etc.
There I praise Casinomeister's forum and hope in the direction Gamblejoe still goes.

Also, I am sure that there are black sheep and it is also not to be dismissed where a lot of money is involved, not everything will always be legal on the part of the casinos.

Therefore I find the blanket judgments of some users who want to put every critical contribution in the corner of the Aluhuträger more than inappropriate.
Who can be 100 percent sure that everything is always in conformity?


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