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Online Casinos in general: Gambeljoe supports scammers? Softswiss Casinos in the Toplist! (Page 13)

Topic created on 30th Jan. 2021 | Page: 13 of 19 | Answers: 189 | Views: 32,849
u****n
YungKafa, that there is cheating somewhere in the online casino sector is almost as certain as the Amen in the church. In almost every business where money is involved, there are black sheep, scandals and fraudsters. Whether it is the emissions scandal in the automotive industry, or the Wirecard scandal in the financial industry. That there is evidence of fraud in OC may be and there you can also uncover as much as you want. However, you can't prove that GJ knowingly makes deals with criminal OCs. When an OC is doing bad things, it tries to avoid attention and hopes that as few people as possible will know about it. So it is absurd to implicate GJ in this, or to declare him as an accomplice, which is what you are obviously doing here.

If you spread your deposits over several casino providers, you run a certain Risk anyway that your money ends up at one or the other not quite so reputable casino. The blame lies partly with yourself, if you have to Deposit thousands of euros in a casino until you realize that something is not right, or the wins leave much to be desired. If I have had good experiences with a Provider and it seems serious to me, then I also stay with this one provider, because what is the point of always depositing with other providers, where there are exactly the same spots?

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YungKafa12
Rookie

Delarion wrote on 01.02.2021 at 14:45
and that's where schwurbler comes in. you "claim" to have evidence, you literally blackmail GJ with this "evidence" you trumpet to have overwhelming evidence, only you don't see anything. trump did exactly the same with his "evidence" for election fraud...


betrüger und betrügerische handlungen gibt es wie sand am meer, und einzelne behörden können auch nicht auf gut düng mal ebend alles hobs nehmen, weil...ja weil ebend. wenn sich die leute jedoch diese betrugsmaschen öffentlich machen oder zur anzeige bringen, dann hat eine behörde auch einen anhaltspunkt den sie prüfen können. du jedoch versuchst hiermit die judikative zu umgehen und machst einen auf dark knight mit deinen imaginären beweisen, die vermutlich nichtssagend sind.

you want us to trust you? you want us to believe everything you say? why should we? what have you done so far that is trustworthy other than starting an inflammatory post? you want to be a user of gj for years, but your profile is only 2 days old. sure you can use it as a guest, but why should we believe that? because you're such a nice guy? calm down you high flyer.

Now, now, now, slow down! You confuse good-naturedness with weakness! And you criticize yourself in the same breath, I celebrate.


I agree with you, and admit my mistakes, but you clearly overshoot the said target! Involuntarily, however, you once again portray me as a "swindler" (as you call it)

From this point you represent yourself as a puppet. Because I have said nevertheless clearly that it is not goal-leading these proofs here to lead. And accordingly you continue to judge without knowing the evidence

I realize that my time is much more precious than to discuss with such persons as you are

Why don't any of you wait to see if the GJ team will comment on this or not? What are you all afraid of!? Why do you keep distracting from the real things!?

I no longer respond to such comments! Promise! To diksutieren with such people is pointless and time-consuming!

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YungKafa12
Rookie

Ichbins2018 wrote on 01.02.2021 at 14:29: I'm pretty sure you're right about a lot of what you wrote here.

This business is extremely influenced by lobbyism -and apart from that,
money is the only thing that rules here, and besides, people are very reluctant to look at their cards.

Your motives (after all that I have read from you) I can still understand / comprehend - however, - and you can be sure of that
however, -and be sure to -change- even if you could prove 100% that any casino would cheat, you will purely nothing.
Players want colorful pictures and whether the offer comes from Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, the Mafia or wherever, that is absolutely secondary.

What you could do though
instead of putting your energy into the casinos you might better invest it elsewhere,
maybe in your family?
That would make much more sense at this point and you wouldn't have to deal with what is not even worth dealing with!
It is a world of its own, one that has its own rules, but by no means one where you should stay too long in it - and if so, then it will destroy you one day!

Thank you, many many thanks for your words! Have perceived your message immediately and also understood

I will do I withdraw without hin currently from zocken, and enjoy the precious time that lies ahead of me. I wish you from the bottom of my heart all the best

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kyosuma
Experienced


1. look at Trustpilot the ratings and comments on these Brands and this group!
2. you generally google how many other players (outside Trustpilot) in other forums about their fraud cases report!
3. i also throw my personal experience into the balance and compare these casinos with the reputable providers such as Wildz, Platincasino, Videoslots, etc. where I also gamble!

Once again, I'm not on the head fallen and always look "out of the box" everywhere me info and try to elicit how credible these sources are, therefore gives a much more concrete picture! Point!



So you are not fallen on the head?
Excuse me, but the Internet is full of the scum of the earth, Internet trolls,
Conspiracy theorists and you can't take Trustpilot for granted.
On Trustpilot there are two types of people who make comments: 1. the I won (also make a positive comment) and 2. those who lose (of course make a negative comment) if I have learned one thing then that people on the Internet are all not rational (gamblers certainly not!).
And no matter what is listed at GJ, I think we all have a personal responsibility, when SlotWolf was listed I did what I always do I read through the Agbs and make me an opinion, and that was that I do not play in this casino, because the terms and conditions were not my case
You would also not take a real credit that is made palatable without the terms and conditions zulesen, where then suddenly randomly 20% interest (since you would certainly no longer be in the deal...).

I like Gj and the people who run it but my Hinrschalt I still do not switch off.
To the ridiculous video I have to say, ahahaha she does not have a proof but still babbelt the junk down (Reminds me strongly of a president :>).
Don't take it personally but in my eyes you are one of the loser candidates
Lost and now want to find some junk compulsively because you're frustrated (or in this case someone to blame), makes your own credibility arg Kaputt.

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Delarion
Amateur

YungKafa12 wrote on 01/02/2021 at 15:12

Na Na, slow down now! You confuse good nature with weakness! And deskritierst yourself in the same breath, I celebrate.


I agree with you, and admit my mistakes, but you clearly overshoot the said target! Involuntarily, however, you once again portray me as a "swindler" (as you call it)

From this point you represent yourself as a puppet. Because I have said nevertheless clearly that it is not goal-leading these proofs here to lead. And accordingly you continue to judge without knowing the evidence

I realize that my time is much more precious than to discuss with such persons as you are

Why don't any of you wait to see if the GJ team will comment on this or not? What are you all afraid of!? Why do you keep distracting from the real things!?

I no longer respond to such comments! Promise! To diksutieren with such people is pointless and time-consuming!


i'm not saying that you are a swindler. you misunderstand me, I just equated your approach with these, because you argue exactly like that without seeming to notice it.


most of the people here are not concerned with what GJ has to say, but with the fact that in a public post you are blackmailing the staff, blackmailing them and coming up with specious flosks. if you don't want any comments about this, then why do it publicly? why don't you write to GJ directly? no you have made it a public debate and now you can't stand the feedback anymore? that has little to do with fear, because if you are right, it is hard to change

where am i discrediting myself? in order to discredit myself, i would first have to reveal a status quo of mine, which i would then demolish. i am simply questioning here what you give as evidence with simple questions like "why, why, why".

yes, i also like to interpret something into it, just as you interpret gamblejoe's involvement into a swisscon fraud scam, that's completely normal, that's how our mind works

and your "defiance phase" is really cute, then go, don't want to waste your oh so precious time

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Anonym
YungKafa12 wrote on 01/02/2021 at 15:15

Thank you, many many thanks for your words! Perceived your message immediately and also understood it

I will do I withdraw without hin currently from zocken, and enjoy the precious time that lies ahead of me. I wish you from the bottom of my heart all the best.

That's nice. I have seen that you have also immediately perceived my message and have meanwhile rowed back and suddenly only politely ask for an answer and if you get none, it is also okay for you

Wonderful!

I could write so much more now if you hadn't written it to us like that. Make peace with yourself!

I will not look at your sources. Particularly since also one was with it, which now really really bad things in at least one person have released and many uninvolved "therefore" had to die

And please greet your superior from us and ask him times what has ridden him to put so much money to you at the disposal. Surely all that will come now anyway is that you are self-employed. OMG!

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upola
Legend

Why are none of you waiting to see if the GJ team will comment on this or not!? What are you all afraid of? Why do you keep distracting from the real things!?

Because I/we don't care if Gj takes a stand or not...you don't get it.

Your mental outpourings are just embarrassing.
Are you actually in real life also so penetrant?

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Anonym
@YoungKafa12

I have no idea if I am one of the people whose contributions to the topic you want to ignore in the future - but personally I think that I have always remained objective, criticized you or some of your remarks but have not attacked you personally and or insulted

Therefore I give now again something to the best

You are surprised that you are so attacked here or that your contributions are partly very ridiculous
I do not understand, because let's be honest, your first contribution was like a typical article of the Bild newspaper - a great hook, an exciting headline but very little content, few facts, no sources
However, I refer only to your first posts - meanwhile you try to prove your statements factually and cite sources
But as I said, related to your first posts, that was simply Bild Zeitung level - even if you may see it differently
The result in the form of a "shitstorms" you have then also immediately felt.
Of course, this does not necessarily happen below the belt, but you should not be surprised

Then just your "criticism" or your subliminal "attacks" in the direction of GJ or the GJ team
Partly you swing very subtly the sword of Damoclas over the heads of GJ.
Some users are here for years on the road and have so far always made positive experiences with the team and or already experienced the one or other assistance
Of course then some users react like that and shoot back in your direction
On an action follows a reaction, but you had to expect
Especially since, unlike you, there are users like me, who on the one hand is clear that GJ here earns from the users and the page is so financed or what kind of business model it is here and which are completely in the pure and just the opinion that it is a free offer and you have to make no demands here
Because that's exactly what you do, you demand things, opinions
Your argumentation, that we all pay here with our personal data - sorry, I can't take that seriously
If that were the case, I would have claims against Google, Facebook, Instagram and 13,987 other companies
It's your opinion and that's ok but in my opinion it's absolute nonsense

Lastly, I personally noticed one more thing that I'm sure is another reason you're getting so hostile here
It seems as if you are of the opinion that you have reinvented the wheel
As if you would reveal things that most users here were not already aware of
Most of the users here know what kind of business model GJ is and most of them also know that we are not only in a "grey area" regarding the legal situation, but also that many of the companies and their backers are not very serious or even criminal
Therefore, and this may not have been your intention, it comes a teilweiße so as if you put others who have commented here, as ignorant and stupid, just because they do not cheer you and see things differently.
As I said, it may not be your intention but it comes partly so with me and probably others, too

Personal attacks, attacks below the belt or harsh insults certainly have no place here
Also, I do not consider you personally to be an aluhuträger
Some things you write clearly correspond to reality and should perhaps even be brought much more into focus or brought to light
However, as I said, an action is always followed by a reaction and in part you are certainly not innocent of what is hurled at the here in part
However, this should of course remain factual and on a certain level, that is out of the question
Personally, I hope that you will find the answers you are looking for, but must honestly confess, for me it is a reality of which I am aware for a long time and do not quite understand all the excitement

Greetings to the round

P.s. the whole thing was written via cell phone, accordingly do not be surprised if one or the other "comma" is inappropriate and or I should have put one or the other "point" more. 😂 Also for the spelling I take no responsibility. 😂

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kyosuma
Experienced
We all know that Daniel because of such a not come back, GJ I in your
Place would do only one thing with this Therad and AB in the trash with it!
Because more it is but also not except a popcorn-cola show.

Who is Clever, does not listen blindly to a forum everyone knows but in the casino wins only one really
and that is the casino, as it says so beautiful: "it always wins the bank".

And to you JungKafa12 you want your money back, do the "borderline number" in court and good is,
then you do not need to waste your "precious time" with us (Mister I have more money than you, btw that was an absolutely unnecessary comment from you)

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Jojuaax3
Rookie
If you have so much money, why don't you just throw it away and see it as a lesson?

You don't seem to care if you have more money than everyone else here in the forum, although I would be careful with such statements if I were you.

As a note, try to keep it shorter.

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