Ultimately, however, it is so that the honest players have to pay this bill in the end, if others have gambled away the money they have afterwards booked back or complain. That something like this hardly finds any supporters here is quite normal.
Unfortunately, I have to agree with the OP - in Austria, gambling is a monopoly = Casinos Austria. Therefore, I see the responsibility and Risk on the operator side (e.g. bWin). bWin wants to make money in an "illegal" market. Look that you get back as much as possible - most (80%) here probably have no idea how it is to lose a lot of money. I have lost at least EUR 150.000,- with bWin over the last 5 years (alone from 1.12 until today about EUR 12.000,-).
And those who talk about MORAL and honest players here - they don't exist, they just haven't lost enough yet!
In Austria, only Win2Day is allowed to offer online gambling
That is why I am trying to get the money back from Bwin
I can understand that some posts here are very cynical and aggressive
Still, maybe someone who has experience with this will answer me. I thought this forum here is a good place to maybe find someone who can tell me about their experience
Depending on how the whole thing turns out for me, of course I'll be happy to let you know
And because someone asked how I finance it: The law firm keeps a certain percentage of the lost money if I win (less if there is an out-of-court settlement, more if there is a lawsuit - still better than nothing for the amount I am talking about). So you do not bear the Risk of legal costs.
And since the law firm has taken over my case, I assume that they are optimistic
Do some people here have something against Austrians? It reads like that in parts
Thank you for your answers and best regards
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gamble1 wrote on 12.12.2020 at 22:33: Everyone eats in good German times shit because he has put himself in a stupid situation
Yeah right, that's what it looks like.
But in some cases the casino eats the shit. It's their own fault if they offer their services despite the prevailing illegality in the respective region.
When it comes to paying out, the stores often refer to existing rules (ABG) - why shouldn't a gambler be allowed to do this?
It's a give and take
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13th Dec. 2020, at 06:56 pm CET#16
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sippi wrote on 12/12/2020 at 10:21 pm
Yes, but he is right now. Also has nothing to do with defending. The example with the butcher fits quite well. You can not eat the whole pork knuckle and then say, upsi, I'm actually a vegetarian, please give me back the money.
You put grocers on the same level as providers of highly addictive Internet toys?
Apparently you are already very deeply rooted in the matter...
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13th Dec. 2020, at 07:29 pm CET#17
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It's always the same discussions after all. The important thing here is to get away from the idea that you get your money back from a casino
Every judge who has ruled in favor of gamblers so far has not understood something! This is a very lousy decision and just imagine if we would all sue for our losses tomorrow because of a lawyer running along or because we once read a ruling that yes, it works
And it explains itself by the way that nobody is in cahoots with any casino who gambles himself! One can understand everyone, which has it times over triebe n. But then still every day with casino game to deal I hold for very underdone. Then you have to make a cut and see that you look for other hobbies and do not break and embittered by the whole matter
Avicii wrote on 13.12.2020 at 07:38: In Austria only Win2Day is allowed to offer online gambling
That's why I'm trying to get the money back at Bwin
I can understand that some posts here are very cynical and aggressive
Still, maybe someone who has experience with this will answer me. I thought this forum here is a good place to maybe find someone who can tell me about their experience
Depending on how the whole thing turns out for me, of course I'll be happy to let you know
And because someone asked how I finance it: The law firm keeps a certain percentage of the lost money if I win (less if there is an out-of-court settlement, more if there is a lawsuit - still better than nothing for the amount I am talking about). So you do not bear the Risk of legal costs.
And since the law firm has taken over my case, I assume that they are optimistic
Do some people here have something against Austrians? It reads like that in parts
Thank you for your answers and best regards
Why do you need experience reports?
As you write here, you have already won?
Here no one has anything against Austrians, how do you come to...only because you are not unreservedly right
gamble1 wrote on 12/12/2020 at 22:33
This has nothing specifically to do with casinos I also stand by the players when I think this site is right
If the player is locked and can gamble his money with the same data the casino has made a mistake and has to pay it back but why on earth if you lose normally ? This is unfair and then everyone would theoretically have the right to do so and then everyone in the world can do what he wants because you can sue the coal back yes
Notice even you can extend the scenario to everything the leasing car does not like lawsuit or the kebab does not taste lawsuit
There are rules for that and the rule for gambling is just play only what you can afford and expect it to be gone and if you can't do that don't expect father state to take you by the hand and say poor bubu here take back your money the bad bad casinos took from you at gunpoint
Everybody eats shit because he got himself into a bad situation whether by gambling or not
Lack of OWN RESPONSIBILITY!
Is the evil of our society, for which neither the understanding, or even the insight is hardly still present.
With incisions of the private sphere, the screaming is rightly large, but if politics then personal responsibility presupposes,
the whining starts. Of course, a limit of 100 euros a month would be a good idea for some, but the other way around a bad for people who
can invest far more. It is unfortunately the loss of the generation of types in the course, where a code of honor without large words to lose
was commonplace. Whether you liked the person or not, but you knew where you stood. Where a word still had an incredible weight.
And today is paid for months, and then completely asocial and wanked trying to get money. And that mostly still
the types that others call social parasites. I get the choke.
eierlothar wrote on 12/14/2020 at 02:30 PM
Lack of OWN RESPONSIBILITY!
Is the evil of our society, for which neither the understanding, or even the insight is hardly still present.
When cutting the privacy, the cry is rightly Great, but if politics then assumes personal responsibility,
the whining starts. Of course, a limit of 100 euros a month would be a good idea for some, but the other way around a bad for people who
can invest far more. It is unfortunately the loss of the generation of types in the course, where a code of honor without large words to lose
was commonplace. Whether you liked the person or not, but you knew where you stood. Where a word still had an incredible weight.
And today is paid for months, and then completely asocial and wanked trying to get money. And that mostly still
the types that others call social parasites. I get the choke.
Alone that you see a Deposit at Online Casinos as an investment is already very twisted. You talk about a "code of honor" - at online casinos and call people who insist on your right as wankered ? Exactly so talk only people who have not lost enough, but please remain a good and loyal customer of online casinos so we can reclaim our losses THANKS
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And those who talk about MORAL and honest players here - they don't exist, they just haven't lost enough yet!
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That is why I am trying to get the money back from Bwin
I can understand that some posts here are very cynical and aggressive
Still, maybe someone who has experience with this will answer me. I thought this forum here is a good place to maybe find someone who can tell me about their experience
Depending on how the whole thing turns out for me, of course I'll be happy to let you know
And because someone asked how I finance it: The law firm keeps a certain percentage of the lost money if I win (less if there is an out-of-court settlement, more if there is a lawsuit - still better than nothing for the amount I am talking about). So you do not bear the Risk of legal costs.
And since the law firm has taken over my case, I assume that they are optimistic
Do some people here have something against Austrians? It reads like that in parts
Thank you for your answers and best regards
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Yeah right, that's what it looks like.
But in some cases the casino eats the shit. It's their own fault if they offer their services despite the prevailing illegality in the respective region.
When it comes to paying out, the stores often refer to existing rules (ABG) - why shouldn't a gambler be allowed to do this?
It's a give and take
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You put grocers on the same level as providers of highly addictive Internet toys?
Apparently you are already very deeply rooted in the matter...
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Every judge who has ruled in favor of gamblers so far has not understood something! This is a very lousy decision and just imagine if we would all sue for our losses tomorrow because of a lawyer running along or because we once read a ruling that yes, it works
And it explains itself by the way that nobody is in cahoots with any casino who gambles himself! One can understand everyone, which has it times over triebe n. But then still every day with casino game to deal I hold for very underdone. Then you have to make a cut and see that you look for other hobbies and do not break and embittered by the whole matter
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Why do you need experience reports?
As you write here, you have already won?
Here no one has anything against Austrians, how do you come to...only because you are not unreservedly right
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Lack of OWN RESPONSIBILITY!
Is the evil of our society, for which neither the understanding, or even the insight is hardly still present.
With incisions of the private sphere, the screaming is rightly large, but if politics then personal responsibility presupposes,
the whining starts. Of course, a limit of 100 euros a month would be a good idea for some, but the other way around a bad for people who
can invest far more. It is unfortunately the loss of the generation of types in the course, where a code of honor without large words to lose
was commonplace. Whether you liked the person or not, but you knew where you stood. Where a word still had an incredible weight.
And today is paid for months, and then completely asocial and wanked trying to get money. And that mostly still
the types that others call social parasites. I get the choke.
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Full agreement!
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Alone that you see a Deposit at Online Casinos as an investment is already very twisted. You talk about a "code of honor" - at online casinos and call people who insist on your right as wankered ? Exactly so talk only people who have not lost enough, but please remain a good and loyal customer of online casinos so we can reclaim our losses THANKS
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