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15.10.2020 - Casino Deadline Day? All over?
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I now assume something and say that you do not all earn 4-5k net to be able to afford 1k + to gamble. 🤷♂️
But hey, maybe gambling is more important to you than anything else in life
But just then the limit is not the worst. 😉
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There is no one crying around. The focus was on the money statement of 1000 € on the
Difference in Player protection between Austria and Germany.
Maybe it is more understandable now.
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let the poor degro in peace with Ihmchen I already had my fun I guess but as I said I guess times the colleague is a Privatinsolvenzler the highest grade will be happy when all this is finally over, but he forgets one thing that is still a hobby!
If someone can afford it but really can afford! Then he should also be allowed to spend 3000 euros a month and the low budget gambler (which I'm also in between you do not always need to exaggerate) who can not cope with your money so or so, or want to strive for this hobby as a money earning side income the should get urgent very urgent help!
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Of course you're not wrong, some will not even affect this limit to 1000€, however, me to some extent.
Nevertheless, I'm not directly about the amount as such, but about the fact that on the one hand father state once again interferes in my private life and wants to dictate to me what I have to do and leave and on the other hand, I have no 30min away from me a large casino where I could gamble without problems as much money as I am funny. This is absolutely stupid, to set limits online, to raise the finger admonishingly, to want to strengthen Player protection, but in the casino I could gamble away unlimited house and yard. The state wants to earn money from online gambling, so be it, no problem. It is not the worst thing for us players if the casinos would be under German legislation. But these limitations, not only the financial, the omission of autostart, delayed spins etc. that is in my opinion bullshit. Especially when you consider that I could still gamble away house and yard around the corner
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Ditto!!!
I was once with 3 of my buddies at the Düsseldorf casino the one or knows the store certainly. Now guess how much we have left there at that time. I say so you could get with the money an above average used car that is a few years old.
It didn't hurt us, but despite that you think someone came up to us and said that we should leave or stop (wouldn't have done it anyway but that's not the point). But that's just typical German no matter in what area it is you are asked by the father state to adhere to this this shelf, but which bring with them thousands of contradictions and gaps.
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God and all the world complains constantly, the state interferes.
Why it is good so one sees at Corona, everyone sees it, everyone knows it, but the fewest understand it.
Unfortunately, and I repeat, unfortunately, the state must and will then interfere.
If I am a danger to myself and others, an institution of our state will always intervene.
To the chagrin of those who have understood everything and carry it out.
It is the same with gambling.
Why do we complain, we have it ourselves to ascribe.Is not only, I endanger myself, speak addiction, Debt, etc, but also others, speak family, friends, creditors, etc..
Entitles the state to intervene.
What is of course in the focus are the additional tax revenues.
And so everyone has just his, what he wants to say about it, whether useful or not.Lies in the discretion of each himself, to what extent the understanding is present.
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Germany and Austria have an identical legal system
Have you ever asked yourself why casinos don't take a complaint about the freedom to provide services all the way to the
ECJ? They would have the money, but no chance of success
Or do you know a casino that has sued?
That alone should make you think.
Again, the Tip to read the judgment of the ECJ completely, there is nothing else.
Even specialist lawyers of people who wanted to sue get the same answer.
I do not write more in addition.
@Metallica_88
I don't communicate with people who have a hidden Heil Hi..... in their nick anyway.
To explain something to right-wing radicals, does not bring so much, therefore understand here also nothing.
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The intervening of the state in relation to the Corona pandemic, with the intervention of the state in relation to gambling to compare is already very far out the window
Apples and oranges
-> "If I am a danger to myself and others, an institution of our state will always intervene."
No and I refer only to gambling, not that we misunderstand each other, but if your statement were true, casinos would also have to be limited.
But that's not the case and please, whoever comes up with the argument that there are people who supervise and address problem gamblers and block them, has never or rarely seen a casino from the inside. That doesn't mean that it doesn't happen from time to time, but as a rule you can gamble away your house and yard
"It's not just me who's endangering myself..."
Please, then the state would have to regulate much more
An alcoholic often endangers not only himself and his actions often affect family, friends, the entire environment. But does the state intervene? No. As soon as you are of age, it doesn't matter to him if you have an alcohol problem and it harms you and your environment, Father State still doesn't forbid you to buy unlimited alcohol and doesn't intervene there
The whole thing has nothing to do with "not wanting to understand or not being able to understand". There must be laws in this country, there are moments or situations where the state must intervene, yes. However, we also have rights and in my opinion it goes too far that father state now interferes in this case in my private life. It should be my right to do what I want with the money I earn with my own hands, legally, for which I pay taxes
Here the "player protection" is taken as a pretext to legalize the casinos to generate tax money
However, I respect your opinion and if you think it's all good and legal, please, no problem
However, telling me and others "we wouldn't understand" is a bad joke, as your argumentations are absolutely baseless
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Of course, the state also intervenes in alcoholism, if I am or become a danger to me and others.
Just as with other diseases, just think of dementia.The state must only be informed about it.Be it from neighbors, or, or.
I do not see that as an encroachment on my personal rights, because then I am incapable of acting, in the sense of our society
Why should casinos etc. not be regulated.
But this is something that I think, and this is just my opinion, will not be possible.
So there will always be differences, see smoking, alcoholism and 1000 others.
It will probably also with this whole set of rules of gambling, as with many things, become the never-ending story.
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By the way, why can you buy weed in Holland and not in Germany? Does the freedom to provide services
not count?
It's exactly the same. Addiction/drug protection takes precedence over the legalization of weed.
And it's the same with OC. Player/addiction protection goes before freedom of services.
And even if you say now, you can't compare that: Yes, you can compare it even very well
because it is absolutely identical. Only the reasons are somewhat different
With the one one sees the entrance drug, with the other one the addiction danger incl. downward whirlpool!
And both trumps the freedom of services!
A certain sovereignty is entitled even the ECJ the different countries!
And as long as first the BGH is responsible.
Who likes, can complain gladly up to the EuGH through. There is no other possibility.
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