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27th Sep. 2020, at 04:22 pm CEST#41
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These new regulations are bypassed anyway best example are Slot machines in the arcades, with the new gambling treaty I think in the last or before last year new regulations were made that were simply bypassed.
autostart became simply Superstart
a game should last 5 seconds, here the transfer of money in points is called an official game which lasts 5 seconds....
There were more rules ...
Matthlign wrote on 27.09.2020 at 15:43
As I said, the supervisory authority exists only on paper and the casino's do not react - I see it like you, the mills of bureaucracy grind slowly and the drawers of the responsible employees large
I would rather fall off the chair, if to the 15th really everything would run strictly according to the "transitional order"
At most, I could imagine that the casino's, in order not to Risk the license, limit our deposits - which would mean per casino 1000€, which I could live with well, if I could Deposit per casino 1000€
However, there is no sign of that either
Wait and see what comes, but it can and will really not be much.
If you would read through my post, you would understand that I hardly show soli in this matter,
Am rather the opinion that such a thing should not come at all, my solidarity is as already written to the gambler have the strong will and now and then unlucky streak have more not.
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27th Sep. 2020, at 05:01 pm CEST#43
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Metallica_88 wrote on 09/27/2020 at 4:42 pm
If you read through my post you would understand that I hardly show solos on this,
Am rather the opinion that such a thing should not come at all, my solidarity is as already written to the gambler who have strong will and now and then unlucky streak have more not.
Sorry I "marked" you, but meant the person with whom you were / are discussing - it should have been @degro
Was just a mix up. Sorry
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27th Sep. 2020, at 05:36 pm CEST#44
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Matthlign wrote on 27.09.2020 at 17:01
Sorry I "tagged" you, but meant the person you were / are discussing with - it should have read @degro
Was just a mix up. Sorry.
No topic nice that I'm still alone find the statement from colleagues moronic
Metallica_88 wrote on 27.09.2020 at 17:36
No topic nice that I'm still alone the statement of the colleagues find moronic
Hey which statement again?haha
So could you quote the statement so I know what you guys are talking about?
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27th Sep. 2020, at 07:00 pm CEST#46
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Metallica_88 wrote on 27.09.2020 at 00:17
I guess that something like this can't be controlled, if so the well-known OCs are not stupid they will find a loophole and get around it....
Apart from that, no OC such as Videoslots will be poorer if a few hundred thousand German gambler have to pay less... other mothers also have beautiful daughters...
I don't know why D is going into a transition phase from 15.10.2020 without waiting for the decision from Brussels to wait.
The GlüStV from 2021 provides in § 22/1 a state monopoly for OCs, disadvantages
and discriminates against providers of other EU countries by Concession procedure as well
as German players. This restriction they must only once opposite
the 'freedom of service and establishment in the EU' to be justified. The monopoly
has already been banned once. The ECJ has issued sufficient guidelines in this regard
sufficiently issued.
The highlight is the prohibition of payments to 'casinos without a German license' by payment providers
License' by payment providers. Players are thus forced not to register
Registration with providers without a German license. This serves to
Safeguard their monopoly.
As of 15.10., chaos and confusion should therefore be perfect. Whether that succeeds in such a way
remains to be seen. In any case, we are dependent on D in questions of games in the OC,
disadvantaged and no longer Europeans
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28th Sep. 2020, at 04:17 pm CEST#48
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Katharina2 wrote on 28.09.2020 at 15:48: I don't know why D goes into a transition phase from 15.10.2020 without the decision from Brussels to wait.
The GlüStV from 2021 provides in § 22/1 a state monopoly for OC's, disadvantages
and discriminates against providers of other EU countries by Concession procedure as well
as German players. This restriction they must first of all opposite
the 'freedom of service and establishment in the EU' to be justified. The monopoly
has already been banned once. The ECJ has issued sufficient guidelines in this regard
sufficiently issued.
The highlight is the prohibition of payments to 'casinos without a German license' by payment providers
License' by payment providers. Players are thus forced not to register with
Registration with providers without a German license in the first place. This serves to
Safeguard their monopoly.
As of 15.10., chaos and confusion should therefore be perfect. Whether that succeeds in such a way
remains to be seen. In any case, we are dependent on D in questions of games in the OC,
disadvantaged and no longer Europeans
Why are you telling untruths here? If you don't have a clue, then don't pass on something like that.
Again:
Only in Germany and Austria the freedom of services does not apply!!!!!!!!!!!!
In this country, the legal protection of gambling takes precedence over the freedom to provide services.
Or to put it another way: Player protection trumps freedom of services. Without a German gambling license, the gambling offer which the German
enters into a contract with the online casino is therefore null and void, i.e. invalid.
Germany has no player protection and is therefore not bound by the ECJ ruling.
Even the EU does not change this, how many times?
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28th Sep. 2020, at 04:55 pm CEST#49
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degro wrote on 09/28/2020 at 16:17
Why are you telling untruths here? If you have no idea, then do not give something like that.
Again:
Only in Germany and Austria the freedom of services does not apply!!!!!!!!!!!!
In this country, the legal protection of gambling takes precedence over the freedom to provide services.
Or to put it another way: Player protection trumps freedom of services. Without a German gambling license, the gambling offer which the German
enters into a contract with the online casino is therefore null and void, i.e. invalid.
Germany has no player protection and is therefore not bound by the ECJ ruling.
Even the EU does not change this, how many times?
finally someone who has a clue! As you rightly say, there is a so-called immanent barrier to the freedom to provide services. If there are compelling reasons that are of public interest, a state may take measures that interfere with the freedom to provide services. These compelling reasons of public interest exist, among other things, when consumers, or in our case the players, are to be protected. The measures taken by the state to ban Online Casinos are therefore permissible and do not violate European law
However, being on the path to legalization, enforcement measures are currently suspended in most cases. In addition, the OCs are mostly located in Malta/Gibraltar and thus escape enforcement by the German state due to the lack of agreements under international law.
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28th Sep. 2020, at 05:34 pm CEST#50
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Can you play now from 15.10 then still in malta casinos or not?
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autostart became simply Superstart
a game should last 5 seconds, here the transfer of money in points is called an official game which lasts 5 seconds....
There were more rules ...
The same will certainly happen in Online Casinos
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If you would read through my post, you would understand that I hardly show soli in this matter,
Am rather the opinion that such a thing should not come at all, my solidarity is as already written to the gambler have the strong will and now and then unlucky streak have more not.
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Sorry I "marked" you, but meant the person with whom you were / are discussing - it should have been @degro
Was just a mix up. Sorry
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No topic nice that I'm still alone find the statement from colleagues moronic
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Hey which statement again?haha
So could you quote the statement so I know what you guys are talking about?
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decision from Brussels to wait.
The GlüStV from 2021 provides in § 22/1 a state monopoly for OCs, disadvantages
and discriminates against providers of other EU countries by Concession procedure as well
as German players. This restriction they must only once opposite
the 'freedom of service and establishment in the EU' to be justified. The monopoly
has already been banned once. The ECJ has issued sufficient guidelines in this regard
sufficiently issued.
The highlight is the prohibition of payments to 'casinos without a German license' by payment providers
License' by payment providers. Players are thus forced not to register
Registration with providers without a German license. This serves to
Safeguard their monopoly.
As of 15.10., chaos and confusion should therefore be perfect. Whether that succeeds in such a way
remains to be seen. In any case, we are dependent on D in questions of games in the OC,
disadvantaged and no longer Europeans
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Why are you telling untruths here? If you don't have a clue, then don't pass on something like that.
Again:
Only in Germany and Austria the freedom of services does not apply!!!!!!!!!!!!
In this country, the legal protection of gambling takes precedence over the freedom to provide services.
Or to put it another way: Player protection trumps freedom of services. Without a German gambling license, the gambling offer which the German
enters into a contract with the online casino is therefore null and void, i.e. invalid.
Germany has no player protection and is therefore not bound by the ECJ ruling.
Even the EU does not change this, how many times?
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finally someone who has a clue! As you rightly say, there is a so-called immanent barrier to the freedom to provide services. If there are compelling reasons that are of public interest, a state may take measures that interfere with the freedom to provide services. These compelling reasons of public interest exist, among other things, when consumers, or in our case the players, are to be protected. The measures taken by the state to ban Online Casinos are therefore permissible and do not violate European law
However, being on the path to legalization, enforcement measures are currently suspended in most cases. In addition, the OCs are mostly located in Malta/Gibraltar and thus escape enforcement by the German state due to the lack of agreements under international law.
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